Moonglow
Diamond Member
Repubs love to spend alsoNope. There is a spending problem. Leftists never want to cut spending.
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Repubs love to spend alsoNope. There is a spending problem. Leftists never want to cut spending.
But Trump wants to cut taxes, I mean why? my tax bill doesn't cripple me does yours?Nope. There is a spending problem. Leftists never want to cut spending.
If you can identify another company that has the expertise for space travel, communications, launching government satellites, etc. etc. etc. go for it. Musk won't miss those contracts but he won't be able to provide the critical and necessary services he provides to the government without them either.“Elon Musk and his cost-cutting U.S. DOGE Service team have been on a mission to trim government largesse. Yet Musk is one of the greatest beneficiaries of the taxpayers’ coffers.
Over the years, Musk and his businesses have received at least $38 billion in government contracts, loans, subsidies and tax credits, often at critical moments, a Washington Post analysis has found, helping seed the growth that has made him the world’s richest person.”
Let’s have some real savings and cut Musk off completely.
Maybe you think the government spends your money as efficiently, effectively, honestly, competently, productively in ways that general economic activity and prosperity for millions of people more than would be the case if you spent it yourself. Most Americans don't agree with you on that.But Trump wants to cut taxes, I mean why? my tax bill doesn't cripple me does yours?
But what about this, do you care about being lied to or not?
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Did you see the launch of a NASA rocket that is headed to the Moon to drill into the he surface and see what hind of cheese is in the Moon.If you can identify another company that has the expertise for space travel, communications, launching government satellites, etc. etc. etc. go for it. Musk won't miss those contracts but he won't be able to provide the critical and necessary services he provides to the government without them either.
I have no idea how "efficient" any of these agencies are, have you seen an audit report? can you please share it here?Maybe you think the government spends your money as efficiently, effectively, honestly, competently, productively in ways that general economic activity and prosperity for millions of people more than would be the case if you spent it yourself. Most Americans don't agree with you on that.
Government does need some funds to carry out its constitutionally specified functions and taxes are the reasonable means of providing those funds to government.
But Trump 41's tax reforms put thousands of dollars into Americans' pockets and the increased economic health of the country actually produced more tax revenue than before.
There is no reason to think Trump and the Congress won't produce the same results making those tax reforms permanent and improving on them this year.
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Go Figure: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs Under Trump Tax Cuts
Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal 2018.www.investors.com
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Despite CBO’s Predictions, Trump Tax Cuts Were a Boon for America’s Economy and Working Families | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee
The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committeebudget.house.gov
I know Elon and Space X can do what the federal government can no longer do for itself. Or at least no longer does for itself. And it does it far more economically than the federal government likely ever could.Did you see the launch of a NASA rocket that is headed to the Moon to drill into the he surface and see what hind of cheese is in the Moon.
Which is what? waste money on adventures to the moon and mars?I know Elon and Space X can do what the federal government can no longer do for itself.
Or at least no longer does for itself. And it does it far more economically than the federal government likely ever could.
And his Starlink satellite system is revolutionizing communications all over the world:
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Starlink: SpaceX's Global Internet Revolution | Bringing High-Speed Web to Remote Areas
Discover how Elon Musk's Starlink is transforming global connectivity. Learn about SpaceX's satellite internet constellation bringing high-speed access to remote areas, bridging the digital divide worldwide.www.factualamerica.com
Elon doesn't get to do what the government does which is the air force drones that have been flying around the Earth for seven years now. You know wtf they are doing. NASA is still launching rockets don't tell me how we can't live without Musk, he ain't doing a damn thing that ain't been done already.I know Elon and Space X can do what the federal government can no longer do for itself. Or at least no longer does for itself. And it does it far more economically than the federal government likely ever could.
And his Starlink satellite system is revolutionizing communications all over the world:
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Starlink: SpaceX's Global Internet Revolution | Bringing High-Speed Web to Remote Areas
Discover how Elon Musk's Starlink is transforming global connectivity. Learn about SpaceX's satellite internet constellation bringing high-speed access to remote areas, bridging the digital divide worldwide.www.factualamerica.com
I have no means to conduct such an audit. DOGE does. And they are being 100% transparent in what they are finding in waste, fraud, inefficiency, ineffectiveness, incompetence, etc. What honorable person wants that in their government?I have no idea how "efficient' any of these agencies are, have you seen an audit report? can you please share it here?
Tell me how you actually measure efficiency of say the IRS, explain that to me. Without an objective way to measure how can you be sure it is improving?
We gave him billions to make a lunar lander.If you can identify another company that has the expertise for space travel, communications, launching government satellites, etc. etc. etc. go for it. Musk won't miss those contracts but he won't be able to provide the critical and necessary services he provides to the government without them either.
Don't give out tax breaks and the debt will get paid faster.
I don't think space exploration is a total waste of money at all. It would be exceedingly dangerous and most unpleasant for Americans should a bad actor like Russia or China obtain space superiority or worse total control. That would give them ability to knock out all our weather and communication satellites at will etc.We gave him billions to make a lunar lander.
Total waste of money.
I don't think space exploration is a total waste of money at all. It would be exceedingly dangerous and most unpleasant for Americans should a bad actor like Russia or China obtain space superiority or worse total control. That would give them ability to knock out all our weather and communication satellites at will etc.
In I think 1921--that would be the Biden administration--Space X did win a $2.9 billion contract to build a spacecraft that could land on the moon. He got the contract because he was the lowest bidder. Others bid on it.
The MAGATs in Congress are doing just that blowing dough they don't have and borrowing more moneyDoesn't work..
Washington DC is a conglomeration of spoiled spending brats. More revenue only represents more opportunity to spend more. This is not a political party thing It's a class thing. DC versus the tax payers.....
Unfortunately slapping the hand in the cookie jar is no longer enough.. It now needs to be amputated.
You were binge watching Joy Reid before she was fired as you stole every whacked out leftist slogan known to the leftist clods.Yes, the world is a better place with a strong US.
But Trump is openly betraying out allies on the world stage, and shamefully kowtowing to the Russian dictator.
His neo facism is in plain sight for the world to see,
None of these things make the US stronger.
And they certainly do not make up the MVP's of the world.
Quite the opposite. The American president is a feckless coward, comfortable with betrayal.
No world leader trusts him at all. They only take him seriously because of the office he holds.
They know Trump's word is worthless.
He is far from being the MVP of the world. All he has is chest beating, bullying and empty threats. Increasingly he is being put on global ignore.
He is a cheater at video games I never had to cheat to winBut musk is evil and he doesn't use the same hairdresser as Trudeau.
Russia and China already have the capability to knock out all our satellites. Landing on the moon has nothing to do with that. Total waste of money. Cancel the contract. Return the money to the people.I don't think space exploration is a total waste of money at all. It would be exceedingly dangerous and most unpleasant for Americans should a bad actor like Russia or China obtain space superiority or worse total control. That would give them ability to knock out all our weather and communication satellites at will etc.
In I think 1921--that would be the Biden administration--Space X did win a $2.9 billion contract to build a spacecraft that could land on the moon. Space X got the contract because it was the lowest bidder. Others bid on it.
Why does it have to be one or the other?Who do you loons hate more Russia or Musk.