Musk was right, a third party is needed in America

[DennisPTate]

When the Amalek attacked the Israelites after the crossing of Red Sea/Sea of Reeds, the Levites only fought the Amalek, and "Levite" Moses didn't join them, he ran up a hill.

If you cannot figure out that Moses was not a Levite, you aren't going to figure out much else.

But on that "hill" that could be termed a mountain Moses was given a book plus books plural, that seem to correspond with The Torah Codes or The Bible Codes on a level that can boggle our minds.

 

[Auld Phart]

is this thread in Politics, or Religion and Ethics?



inquiring minds want to know.

 

[DennisPTate]

is this thread in Politics, or Religion and Ethics?



inquiring minds want to know.

The extreme Atheists, [especially the angry and naive young ones], attempt to make an absolute separation between politics and religion but the fact remains that Moses, JOSHUA, King David, King Solomon, The Prophet Daniel and his three Jewish friends were all involved in GOVERNMENT!

 

[August West]

Those honest fair patriotic Feds....

not in America...

How`s the weather in Moscow, today?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The polls show it.

New High of 45% in U.S. Identify as Political Independents

A new high of 45% of U.S. adults identified as political independents in 2025.

news.gallup.com

The Dems and GOP have 27% each. 45% are third party or independent. In 2024 we voted for

"I will obliterate the Deep State"


and today we get to see that the Deep State is still in total control, that the US exists to serve, fund, defend and expand Israel, that those connected to treason involving Israel are all above the law, and once again America is doing Zionist Fascism's dirty work with precisely ZERO US national interest involved.

Heck, we can't even bust CO2 FRAUD, never mind 911, Covid/Covid Vax, NOTHING...


The majority of those 27% who ID as "Republican" are Zionist Fascist supporters of Israel who do not care about America at all. They aren't conservative, they conspire with Democrats, and every time there is mindless mumbling about "RINOs" while the RINOs never lose in GOP primaries.


America, we have two major parties.


A kleptocratic meritless party that hates truth and America = the Democrats

A treasonous fraud of a "Republican Party" that is really just an ONLY ISRAEL MATTERS, AMERICA DOES NOT party.....


We need one party that actually cares about America, and we don't have that...

Trump did for American voters exactly as Bibi is doing for Israel, turning every sane person to look for an alternative

 

[alang1216]

The polls show it.

New High of 45% in U.S. Identify as Political Independents

A new high of 45% of U.S. adults identified as political independents in 2025.

news.gallup.com

The Dems and GOP have 27% each. 45% are third party or independent. In 2024 we voted for

"I will obliterate the Deep State"


and today we get to see that the Deep State is still in total control, that the US exists to serve, fund, defend and expand Israel, that those connected to treason involving Israel are all above the law, and once again America is doing Zionist Fascism's dirty work with precisely ZERO US national interest involved.

Heck, we can't even bust CO2 FRAUD, never mind 911, Covid/Covid Vax, NOTHING...


The majority of those 27% who ID as "Republican" are Zionist Fascist supporters of Israel who do not care about America at all. They aren't conservative, they conspire with Democrats, and every time there is mindless mumbling about "RINOs" while the RINOs never lose in GOP primaries.


America, we have two major parties.


A kleptocratic meritless party that hates truth and America = the Democrats

A treasonous fraud of a "Republican Party" that is really just an ONLY ISRAEL MATTERS, AMERICA DOES NOT party.....


We need one party that actually cares about America, and we don't have that...

Ranked Choice Voting would make additional parties viable.

 

[DennisPTate]

Trump did for American voters exactly as Bibi is doing for Israel, turning every sane person to look for an alternative

No.... I disagree.
I am of the belief that the brightest of the brightest of Americans are beginning to take the gifted Mark Taylor more and more seriously as they do their homework, [background research].

Mr. Mark Taylor :
4-28-11 Commander in Chief

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to lsrael, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than lsrael). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.


The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that lhave started! Forthe enemy has stolen from America fordecades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The enemy will say lsrael, lsrael, what about lsrael? For lsrael will be protected by America once again. The spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand and hand with lsrael, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between lsrael and America will be stronger than ever, and lsrael will flourish like never before.


The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and lsrael, for this next president will be a man of his word, when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. This man's word is his bond and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless. The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America.


The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waist their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president. Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him says the Spirit of God." (Mr. Mark Taylor, April 28, 2011)

www.SordRescue.com/

 

[Fang]

The problem isn’t the two party system. The problem is no one gives a sh!t about anyone else but themselves. It’s really as simple as that. We see it every day in every aspect of our lives. We saw it at the SOTU when a grieving mother was sobbing uncontrollably in the audience over her murdered daughter. At that moment it didn’t matter how she got there, or why she was there, or who was talking. That simple fact is she was there and very distraught. Yet half the audience can’t simply stand for her because they fear it puts them at a disadvantage to regaining power. No doubt Liberals can answer with examples of their own. But you get the point. This is the society we live in today and a 3rd party won’t fix it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No.... I disagree.
I am of the belief that the brightest of the brightest of Americans are beginning to take the gifted Mark Taylor more and more seriously as they do their homework, [background research].

The guy got literally EVERYTHING wrong

 

[my2¢]

Our "system" won't allow it.

We have to fix the "system", but first, enough people have to give a crap.

We here in Arizona had a proposition in 2024 to put Democrats, Republicans, third parties, and independents all on an equal footing by uniting the whole bunch into a single state primary. Unfortunately, it got voted down as both major political parties came out against it to protect their turf.

Arizona Proposition 140

• replacing partisan primaries with primaries in which candidates, regardless of partisan affiliation, appear on a single ballot and a certain number advance to the general election, such as top-two or top-four primaries;
• requiring candidates to receive a majority of votes in general elections;
• requiring the use of ranked-choice voting in general elections when three or more candidates advance from the primaries (for one-winner general elections); and
• prohibiting using public funds to administer partisan primaries at the federal, state, and local levels, except for presidential preference primaries that allow independents to participate.

 

[Mac1958]

We here in Arizona had a proposition in 2024 to put Democrats, Republicans, third parties, and independents all on an equal footing by uniting the whole bunch into a single state primary. Unfortunately, it got voted down as both major political parties came out against it to protect their turf.

Arizona Proposition 140

• replacing partisan primaries with primaries in which candidates, regardless of partisan affiliation, appear on a single ballot and a certain number advance to the general election, such as top-two or top-four primaries;
• requiring candidates to receive a majority of votes in general elections;
• requiring the use of ranked-choice voting in general elections when three or more candidates advance from the primaries (for one-winner general elections); and
• prohibiting using public funds to administer partisan primaries at the federal, state, and local levels, except for presidential preference primaries that allow independents to participate.

That would be a great freakin' start. And of course the parties don't want it.

Add bipartisan redistricting committees and term limits, and we'd be getting somewhere.

 

[Chuz Life]

The majority of those 27% who ID as "Republican" are Zionist Fascist supporters of Israel who do not care about America at all. They aren't conservative, they conspire with Democrats, and every time there is mindless mumbling about "RINOs" while the RINOs never lose in GOP primaries.

Yeah, the best way to bring people into the idea of a 3rd party is to call them a Zionist Fascist if they don't.

Brilliant!

 

[dblack]

That would be a great freakin' start. And of course the parties don't want it.

Add bipartisan redistricting committees and term limits, and we'd be getting somewhere.

No... "bipartisan" only further entrenches the real problem.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'll leave this here,

Thread 'The ideal American Political Party (Chuz Life's version)'

Aug 27, 2025

I am on record on many forums poo pooing the idea of anyone trying to form a new political party to compete against Republicans and Democrats. There have been so many failed attempts through the years, it's quite obvious (to me) that a viable 3rd Political party in the U.S. is not likely going to rival the GOP or the DNC, in my remaining lifetime. I already have several personal ideas for a Party Name, Symbol, Basic Philosophy, Planks for the Platform, etc. And I hope to share all that in my following posts.

Anyone who tries to use this thread to personally attack, disrupt, and/ or...

• Chuz Life
• Replies: 128
• Forum: Politics

 

[dblack]

We need to strip out every law and regulation that presumes or promotes political parties. Then get rid of plurality voting and install a system that rewards consensus rather than division.

 

[EMH]

But on that "hill" that could be termed a mountain Moses was given a book plus books plural, that seem to correspond with The Torah Codes or The Bible Codes on a level that can boggle our minds.

No, that's Mt Sinai.

Let's have a quick refresher. Battle with Amalek is before Mt. Sinai and just off the "coast" of Red Sea. Then they go to Mt. Sinai, where Moses and his inner circle are invited up the mountain by the Levites, who then don't let anyone else up there except a convoy of Midianites, without the Bible ever mentioning whether or not they ever came down the mountain. The Bible says Moses "looked different" when he came down, and then it was necessary to off 3500 people for "dancing." Later, during the conquest of Canaan, Moses/Joshua attack Midian, and with the Midians in full surrender, "Moses" comes out and says kill 'em all except the hot young virgins.

So Moses was rescued by the Midianites, and then exterminated them. Nice guy!!


OR

The Levites did all the "heavy lifting" getting the Israelites out of Egypt. But they felt unappreciated. The people credited Moses, even after the Amalek fight, where Moses chickened out while the Levites and only the Levites fought. The claim that the Israelites won because Moses raised his staff would be typical of a frustrated Levite angrily watching the people credit Moses not them. There are things in the Bible that nobody saw and things that everyone saw. The Bible could not lie about what everyone saw. The Bible couldn't lie about the battle with the Amalek or Moses looking different. During Battle with Amalek the staff has NO POWER AT ALL. And Joshua talks to God and his appearance never changes...


The explanation that fits best is that the Levites had "had it" with "Moses Moses Moses" when they did all the heavy fighting. Moses was a Midianite. When he escaped, he went home. But during his stay in Egypt, he met Joshua, unquestionably one of ancient history's most brilliant and capable generals. Moses = dumb shepherd, Joshua = brilliant general.... Joshua told Moses that to "get out" of Egypt, he and his top caliber Levite army would just need about 50 swords, a distraction, and the main Egyptian Army not right outside the construction site.

When Ramses takes power, he immediately goes to war with Hittites, the Battle of Kadesh. The historical summary of that battle is quite interesting. Originally Moses's battalion got ahead of the other two. The Hittites ambushed him, and got close to offing him when the other two arrive, and then Egypt starts winning. While Egypt is winning, all of a sudden Ramses wants a truce. After the battle, Ramses executed 200 chariot warriors while claiming a huge victory.

Back to Exodus, when they are confronted by chariots before reaching Red Sea, the chariots are not coming from Egypt, but rather from Kadesh. And it is just chariots, no ground troops with them.

So if Moses was just a Midianite shepherd and didn't know how to fight... he basically gave control to Joshua.

The 10 Commandments movie has all Hebrew slaves with beards and long hair. That is a deliberate lie. All ancient Egyptian construction workers were clean shaven skinheads because of lice. To replace Moses on top of Mt. Sinai, Moses was offed, but his Levite replacement would need time to grow a beard.... maybe 40 days.... and that's why the faux Moses exterminated Midian, because he was a fraud and they would all know it. The 3500 offed when he came down the mountain were clearly the Midianite portion of the Israelites, who knew the guy who came down was not the same guy who went up.



Richard Gabriel is a great historian and historical philosopher.... he isn't as blunt as I am, but these are good...

 

[EMH]

Yeah, the best way to bring people into the idea of a 3rd party is to call them a Zionist Fascist if they don't.

Brilliant!

If all you care about is the Bible and Israel, you belong in the GOP, because that's all the GOP cares about.

 

[EMH]

is this thread in Politics, or Religion and Ethics?



inquiring minds want to know.

I'm the OP and it is fine to let it drift.

The destruction of the GOP and America beginning in the 1990s was 100% about religion.

 

[Chuz Life]

If all you care about is the Bible and Israel, you belong in the GOP, because that's all the GOP cares about.

Wow!

You are good at this.

I see why others are gravitating towards your leadership.

 

[EMH]

Wow!

You are good at this.

I see why others are gravitating towards your leadership.

One thing is for certain, any new or "enlarged" third party like Libertarians will push back against religious bullshit in politics. Only about 20% of Americans are like you, think everyone should be forced to worship Jeezy etc...

America should have freedom of religion as long as the religion obeys our laws, and freedom FROM religion.