Mt. Vernon Assembly working 24/7 to convene constitutional convention!

[Missouri_Mike]

Who are you going to take your country back from? Liberals? Were liberals the ones running secret torture prisons six years ago? Did a liberal lie to the United Nations and the American voters about the reasons for invading Iraq?

And again, did liberals torture POWs to death in secret torture prisons?

Adjust your thinking toward what liberals are doing closer to home and you may get the idea. It's the policies you are pushing on us that is the reason.

 

[Contumacious]

Who are you going to take your country back from? Liberals? Were liberals the ones running secret torture prisons six years ago? Did a liberal lie to the United Nations and the American voters about the reasons for invading Iraq?

And again, did liberals torture POWs to death in secret torture prisons?

Stop the bullshit.

Obama is Kenyan for Bush.

There is no fucking difference between the two.

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[KNB]

So why weren't any of you Republicans challenging Bush?

 

[Contumacious]

So why weren't any of you Republicans challenging Bush?

Listen rookie, quit jiving and check the archives.

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[Mojo2]

By disrupting the proposed Constitutional Convention Elizabeth Warren will promote you to Commissar.(комисса&#1088

It is not a Constitutional Convention.

It is a Convention to Amend the Constitution.

Oh, I see.


Mark Levin is a phony constitutionalist. He championed the PATRIOT Act, writing in his previous book that “evidence of widespread civil liberties abuses against American citizens” under that law is “nonexistent.” And he denounced the man who blew the whistle on these jaw-dropping civil liberties abuses of American citizens, Edward Snowden, as a “traitor.” He has also mocked and ridiculed America’s real champion of constitutional liberty, Ron Paul, by calling him “Ru Paul” on his radio show. (Ru Paul is a bizarre, blabbering cross dresser who can be spotted on cable TV).

.

So what???

Are you the kind of individual who is unable to accept a glass of water from Levin if you were parched?

No, of course not. You'd gladly accept his benevolence.

Why?

Because if you didn't you might die. And in the short term you'd feel better.

Well, please put aside for a moment, your disgust with him. Okay?

Because this is more urgent and important than that!

See, when you are in a sinking ship you don't care who throws you a life vest.

I can't make it any more clear to you.

We have real urgent need to take our country back from the people we both know are trying to steal our freedoms and then make us captives.

You know it. I know it. And Mark Levin knows it.

He is explaining to us the method for saving our Republic and Article 5 isn't HIS idea!

It is the idea of George Mason and the men who framed our nation...our founding fathers

You respect them don't you?

Well, they left us TWO ways to amend the Constitution. The way we have always done it which the Dems and Obama have subverted for their own purposes...

And through Article 5.

They were really far sighted. They knew this day might come and left us a solution.we could use if the need arose.

Well, Levin is just telling us about this article they left us to use when the situation we have now, developed.

So could you just keep your disgust under control long enough to help us save ourselves?

Hmmmmm?????

 

[Contumacious]

It is not a Constitutional Convention.

It is a Convention to Amend the Constitution.

Oh, I see.


Mark Levin is a phony constitutionalist. He championed the PATRIOT Act, writing in his previous book that “evidence of widespread civil liberties abuses against American citizens” under that law is “nonexistent.” And he denounced the man who blew the whistle on these jaw-dropping civil liberties abuses of American citizens, Edward Snowden, as a “traitor.” He has also mocked and ridiculed America’s real champion of constitutional liberty, Ron Paul, by calling him “Ru Paul” on his radio show. (Ru Paul is a bizarre, blabbering cross dresser who can be spotted on cable TV).

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Are you the kind of individual who is unable to accept a glass of water from Levin if you were parched?

You’re absolutely right, the federal government no longer pays any attention whatsoever to constitutional limits on its powers, and only a fool or a deceiver thinks or says new amendments will somehow be magically enforced. The fatal flaw in all such talk is the acceptance of the idea that the federal government itself, through its “supreme” court, should be the sole decision maker in matters of constitutionality."

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[KNB]

So why weren't any of you Republicans challenging Bush?

Listen rookie, quit jiving and check the archives.

Check the archives for what? Republicans challenging the Iraq invasion? Any Conservatives arguing against torture as a war crime? Give some examples.

 

[Mojo2]

So why weren't any of you Republicans challenging Bush?

I didn't see much reason to.

I thought he was mostly justified in making the decisions he did while in office. The few things I didn't like is just the way things go. You will never see eye to eye with a POTUS 100% of the time. 70% - 80% and I'm thrilled!

And besides, we were at war. Al Qaeda had declared war on us in the 1990's. And whatever he did to keep us safe and re-shuffle the Middle East 'deck of cards' was okay with me.*

But if your Mother was being raped by a stranger in your home and you asked me to stop him, what would you think if i refused because you hadn't done anything when she was being raped ten years ago?

You'd be outraged because this isn't a game of titfortat.

You would try to stop the danger that threatens your life or that of a loved one RIGHT THIS MINUTE.

After this danger has been removed you can then deal with yesteryear.

Well, that's what we face today.

Obama is crushing our freedoms and making us all captives.

Buck Fush!

We'll deal with him later!


*- The M.E. had long been a chronic trouble spot for us and the rest of the world and it stemmed from religion and oil and long standing feuds and animosities. It had been called a spider's nest.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJr_E37nuw][FULL] Not for the squeamish! Surprise hidden inside pile of 'hair' - YouTube[/ame]

Re-shuffling the deck resulted in 20,000,000+ freed from subjection.

 

[SwimExpert]

Who are you going to take your country back from? Liberals? Were liberals the ones running secret torture prisons six years ago? Did a liberal lie to the United Nations and the American voters about the reasons for invading Iraq?

And again, did liberals torture POWs to death in secret torture prisons?

I need to borrow a chromosome and I understand you have an extra one.

 

[Mojo2]

Oh, I see.


Mark Levin is a phony constitutionalist. He championed the PATRIOT Act, writing in his previous book that “evidence of widespread civil liberties abuses against American citizens” under that law is “nonexistent.” And he denounced the man who blew the whistle on these jaw-dropping civil liberties abuses of American citizens, Edward Snowden, as a “traitor.” He has also mocked and ridiculed America’s real champion of constitutional liberty, Ron Paul, by calling him “Ru Paul” on his radio show. (Ru Paul is a bizarre, blabbering cross dresser who can be spotted on cable TV).

.

Are you the kind of individual who is unable to accept a glass of water from Levin if you were parched?

You’re absolutely right, the federal government no longer pays any attention whatsoever to constitutional limits on its powers, and only a fool or a deceiver thinks or says new amendments will somehow be magically enforced. The fatal flaw in all such talk is the acceptance of the idea that the federal government itself, through its “supreme” court, should be the sole decision maker in matters of constitutionality."

.

You refuse to accept or pay attention to my posts which dispell your fears.

Article V removes the power from Congress.

Please read or listen to levin's interview.

Yes, I know you think he's an asshole.

Okay.

But just become informed and stop posting from a position of weakness!

Mark Levin: States Should Call Convention to Propose Amending Constitution | CNS News

You can read it or stream it from this link.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

There isn't going to be a Constitutional Convention.

 

[Mojo2]

There isn't going to be a Constitutional Convention.

It is not a Constitutional Convention.

It is a Convention to Amend the Constitution.

Mark Levin: States Should Call Convention to Propose Amending Constitution | CNS News

 

[johnwk]

Mark Levin: States Should Call Convention to Propose Amending Constitution

August 11, 2013 - 11:08 PM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

Mark Levin also promotes keeping the progressive's/socialist's tax calculated from incomes alive with one of his "liberty amendments".

Mark Levin refuses to promote the following House/Senate Joint Resolution:


House/Senate Joint Resolution

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.

Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.

Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.

Mark Levin talks an awful lot about our founding fathers wisdom, but when it comes to returning to our founding fahter's original tax plan, which is what the above amendment would do, he sides with the socialist's redistribution of wealth carried out via taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries, and other "incomes".


JWK


“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address

 

[johnwk]

You refuse to accept or pay attention to my posts which dispell your fears.

Article V removes the power from Congress.

You and Levin are full of crap! Article V would allow those who hold federal and state political power to make constitutional the tyranny they now rain down upon the people.



I researched this issue very carefully back in 1985 and I can’t see any safe way to convene a convention without providing to our corrupted state legislatures and our despotic federal government the opportunity to rewrite our Constitution and undo the miracle our Founders left us.

Who would be in charge of deciding the constitutionality of the doings of the convention? Would it not be our very own despotic Supreme Court?

And who do you think will attend a convention should one be called? Would it not be the very snakes who now cause our sufferings? Could Madison be right, and that every snake on earth including ACORN, would seize the opportunity and find their way into the convention to advance interests not in the general welfare of the United States? Let us take a look at what has already happened in New Hampshire in 1984 when a convention was called to amend its state constitution.

During the 1984 New Hampshire Convention to alter its State Constitution, which was challenged in U.S. District Court, of the 400 delegates 64 were attorneys, eight were judges, four were state senators, and 113 were state representatives and there were two legislative lobbyists….the very people who are now causing our misery! Do you have confidence in these sorts of people who would most certainly find their way into the convention?

The suit went on to charge “there has been over 175 lawyers, judges, senators and representatives out of the total of 400 constitutional convention (delegates) elected, (who) are already holding a pubic office both in the legislature and judicial branches in violation of the separation of powers doctrine, and this count does not include wives and immediate family members who have been elected on their behalf.”



I wonder what Michael Farris would say regarding the selection process of those who will attend an Article V convention. And how many delegates does each state get to send to the convention? Will it be by a rule of apportionment in which our “progressive” states like California, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and a few others will have an overwhelming representation at the convention because of their large population size? And if they do, could they not steamroll their progressive agenda through the convention and force it upon the entire United States by adopting a rule for ratification in which a simple majority vote in the Senate is all that is needed for ratification or a mere nine states as was done to make our existing Constitution effective? Keep in mind that under the Articles of Confederation a unanimous consent was required to alter the Articles but the convention ignored this rule!

The fact is, there is a compelling argument to be made that the above mentioned socialist/progressive states would indeed be entitled to a representation at the convention in proportion to their population size! Does our Constitution not set a new rule by which representation shall be by the rule of apportionment which overruled the Articles of Confederation’s equal representation rule? And who will get to decide this question if raised? As pointed out above, would it not be our existing tyrannical Supreme Court?

Finally, it seems to be continually asserted by those calling for a convention that there is no way to restore our Constitution’s original provisions without calling an Article V convention. But that assertion is factually incorrect! The truth is undoing what our despotic federal government has done to us merely requires the people to rise up and demand such change! See our Constitution’s 21st Amendment! And then study how the people took it upon themselves to get the 18th Amendment repealed. The following photos tell the tail! CLICK HERE

The future of our country is in the hands of the American people, but they must rise to the occasion, and take back their country from their corrupted state legislatures and our despotic federal government. And that process could begin this coming election by asking those running for office if they will support the following House/Senate Joint Resolution:

House/Senate Joint Resolution

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.

Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.

Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.


Is our existing and corrupted socialist/progressive tax system not the source of power used to enslave America's productive people and rob them of the wealth they have created? Would ending this horrid system of taxation and restoring our Constitution's original tax plan not be a major step in taking back our country?



I believe the above Resolution would give America’s working people and business owners something to unite under and then work to elect members to Congress this coming election who will make the adoption of this proposal part of their campaign.


JWK



If the America People do not rise up and defend their existing Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people it was designed to control and regulate?

 

[Mojo2]

Mark Levin: States Should Call Convention to Propose Amending Constitution

August 11, 2013 - 11:08 PM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

Mark Levin also promotes keeping the progressive's/socialist's tax calculated from incomes alive with one of his "liberty amendments".

Mark Levin refuses to promote the following House/Senate Joint Resolution:


House/Senate Joint Resolution

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.

Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.

Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.

Mark Levin talks an awful lot about our founding fathers wisdom, but when it comes to returning to our founding fahter's original tax plan, which is what the above amendment would do, he sides with the socialist's redistribution of wealth carried out via taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries, and other "incomes".


JWK


“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address

Forget Mark Levin.

Think Founding Fathers.

THEY are the ones whose idea you have to decide on.

Mark Levin is merely the messenger.

When you get bad news over the telephone would you smash your phone?

Or if your phone was a style which you hated and you couldn't wait to replace it with one you liked better, would you throw the phone away if you were lost in the wilderness?

That phone might save your life. Nevermind that it is a style you hate. Look for the good in it.

If you can't get beyond this silly irrational complex you have about Mark levin and instead, focus on the solution our founding fathers gave us in the Constitution that will save our Country, I may have to use tough love to reach you.

 

[Mojo2]

There isn't going to be a Constitutional Convention.

I hope you are right.

 

[johnwk]

Mark Levin also promotes keeping the progressive's/socialist's tax calculated from incomes alive with one of his "liberty amendments".

Mark Levin refuses to promote the following House/Senate Joint Resolution:


House/Senate Joint Resolution

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.

Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.

Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.

Mark Levin talks an awful lot about our founding fathers wisdom, but when it comes to returning to our founding fahter's original tax plan, which is what the above amendment would do, he sides with the socialist's redistribution of wealth carried out via taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries, and other "incomes".


JWK


“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address

Forget Mark Levin.

Well, aren't you the cute one? When confronted with truth and facts your switch the subject, which is another stupid debating trick.



JWK



They are not “liberals”. They are conniving Marxist parasites who use the cloak of government force to steal the wealth which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create

 

[Contumacious]

Mark Levin also promotes keeping the progressive's/socialist's tax calculated from incomes alive with one of his "liberty amendments".

Mark Levin refuses to promote the following House/Senate Joint Resolution:


House/Senate Joint Resolution

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.

Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.

Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.

Mark Levin talks an awful lot about our founding fathers wisdom, but when it comes to returning to our founding fahter's original tax plan, which is what the above amendment would do, he sides with the socialist's redistribution of wealth carried out via taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries, and other "incomes".


JWK


“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address

Forget Mark Levin.

Think Founding Fathers.

THEY are the ones whose idea you have to decide on.

Mark Levin is merely the messenger.

When you get bad news over the telephone would you smash your phone?

Or if your phone was a style which you hated and you couldn't wait to replace it with one you liked better, would you throw the phone away if you were lost in the wilderness?

That phone might save your life. Nevermind that it is a style you hate. Look for the good in it.

If you can't get beyond this silly irrational complex you have about Mark levin and instead, focus on the solution our founding fathers gave us in the Constitution that will save our Country, I may have to use tough love to reach you.

Yo Mo'

Are you forgetting that the reason we have a gargantuan welfare/warfare state is because the SCOTUS scumbags looked the other way?

Are you forgetting that "conservative justice" Roberts approved one of the largest socialist scheme in our nation history?

Are you fucking forgetting that the "liberals" also nominate "justices"

Are you also forgetting that the Parasitic Faction constitute close to 50% of the electorate and they vote early and often. Most of the cases recently approved by SCOTUS appeared to be designed to impress the Liberal media, ie, Moscow Show Trials.


.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Look on the bright side, if the plutocracy annihilates our Constitution with their own authoritarian/progressive bullshit, then We the People have an obligation to use our Second Amendment rights to restore the original Constitution. Recruitment would be pretty simple here, and a great many military members would defect to our side.

GG

Reactionaries ought to think before they act. Sadly, such an activity leads them to cognitive dissonance, thus they eschew it. The U.S. Constitution was written with what we must assume intentional ambiguity, for the founders were very bright and educated men who knew they didn't know everything.

Sadly, the right in America - the Tea Party and the Libertarians - believe they do know everything, and should never be given the authority to make fundamental changes to our system of governance.

Law, even the law of our land, is a living instrument and evolves with the times. Suggesting what Madison or Jefferson knew at the end of their life by reference to documents written decades removed is silly; certainly referring to them as perfect for today is absurd.

 

[johnwk]

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At the Convention of States Project's website, and under their Frequently Asked Questions the first question presented and then answered is:

Why Do We Want to Call a Convention of States?

“Washington, D.C., is broken. The federal government is spending this country into the ground, seizing power from the states and taking liberty from the people. It’s time American citizens took a stand and made a legitimate effort to curb the power and jurisdiction of the federal government. At the Constitutional Convention, George Mason insisted that the States be given the power to amend the Constitution to curb abuses by Washington, D.C. The Founders gave us the solution for today. It is time to use their solution.”

The problem is indeed identified by the Convention of States project. Our federal government is usurping power not granted and trampling upon the inalienable rights of the American People. A recent example being the passage of Obamacare by Congress and the Supreme Court engaging in judicial tyranny when upholding Congress’ legislative tyranny, not to mention the president’s willful usurping legislative power and imposing his own version of Obamacare upon the people.



And to curb this assault upon the People’s constitutionally limited system of government, the Convention of States project comes to the people’s rescue and suggests they forgo rising up and demanding an adherence to their written Constitution. The Convention of States project’s solution is to take the people out of the equation and find their remedy in our corrupted state governments, our tyrannical Supreme Court and a despotic Congress. Are these not the actors who would be in total charge of a convention should one be called? Would calling a convention under Article V not give them the “legal opportunity” to make constitutional the tyranny which is now rained down upon the people?


One must ask, who would actually attend a convention should one be called? Would it not be the very snakes who now cause our sufferings? Could James Madison be right, and that an election into the convention " would be courted by the most violent partisans on both sides; it wd. probably consist of the most heterogeneous characters; would be the very focus of that flame which has already too much heated men of all parties; would no doubt contain individuals of insidious views, who under the mask of seeking alterations popular in some parts but inadmissible in other parts of the Union might have a dangerous opportunity of sapping the very foundations of the fabric...? ___ See Letters of Delegates to Congress: Volume 25 March 1, 1788-December 31, 1789, James Madison to George Turberville


Let us take a look at what has already happened in New Hampshire in 1984 when a convention was called to amend its state constitution.

During the 1984 New Hampshire Convention to alter its State Constitution, which was challenged in U.S. District Court, of the 400 delegates 64 were attorneys, eight were judges, four were state senators, and 113 were state representatives and there were two legislative lobbyists….the very people who are now causing our misery!


The suit went on to charge “there has been over 175 lawyers, judges, senators and representatives out of the total of 400 constitutional convention (delegates) elected, (who) are already holding a public office both in the legislature and judicial branches in violation of the separation of powers doctrine, and this count does not include wives and immediate family members who have been elected on their behalf.”

Now, let us take a look at who is behind the calling of a constitutional convention. See: Exposing the Convention of the States (COS) as an Article V Constitutional Convention … and Who’s Behind It All, including Soros & Levin

JWK


At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished asked him directly, `Well, Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?' `A republic, if you can keep it,' responded Franklin.