Mr. Yiannapolous opens Conversion Center

[Polishprince]

Conversion therapy is not helping. It is coersion

So what would you suggest that people do if they determine they need help to break the buggery habit/

They are coerced and shamed. They are brainwashed. If they were just left alone and accepted for who they are, they would not be subjecting themselves to that sort of abuse. There is extensive evidence that this therapy is abusive, demeaning, and cruel.

We are talking about people who have already made the decision to change to normative.

Once they get ask for help, they aren't going to want to be enabled any more. So a little bit of shame is necessary
Just like if someone wants to quit drinking or drugging.

The therapists there don't just leave the alkies alone. They hop on the patients until they quit with the self destructiveness.

 

[John T. Ford]

It's okay to help people one way but not the other. Got it, I guess you have to be politically correct to be such an asshole.

And, these people expect us to see them as normal.

You can't make this shit up.

 

[EvMetro]

Way to go milo!

 

[Correll]

He had better stay the hell out of New Jersey

A Court Is Forcing These Former Conversion Therapists to Pay Millions Over “Ex-Gay” Abuse

They will be forced to pay $3.5 million and cease operations permanently.

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Freedom to identify as you wish. As long as you just go one way. Once gay, you have to stay gay. Got it.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So what would you suggest that people do if they determine they need help to break the buggery habit/

If someone is uncofortable with their sexuality they should go to a legitimate therapist who will work with them to explore their issues and anxieties. Someone who will assist them in better understanding who and what they are and give them space to COME TO THEIR OWN CONCLUSION about their sexuality. Someone WITHOUT an adgenda and a preconceived idea of what they -the therapist- wants the outcome to be. Can you get your head around that.? A very different thing that staring with the premis that the client can and must change.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

We are talking about people who have already made the decision to change to normative.

Once they get ask for help, they aren't going to want to be enabled any more. So a little bit of shame is necessary
Just like if someone wants to quit drinking or drugging.

The therapists there don't just leave the alkies alone. They hop on the patients until they quit with the self destructiveness.

More horseshit! They did not make that decision in a vacume. They are motivated either by a sense that they are not accepted in society and/ or by someone in their personal life who is pushing them in that dirrection Shame is necessary? Are you really that stupid, Shame is destructive. Shame leads to suicide. See my last post to you. There is appropriate help available to those who feel that they want it. Help that does not involve brainwashing and a adgenda tht pushes a person in a direction that is not right for them

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Freedom to identify as you wish. As long as you just go one way. Once gay, you have to stay gay. Got it.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?! See posts 26 and 26 and see if you can make an appropriate and meaningful comment.

 

[Correll]

If someone is uncofortable with their sexuality they should go to a legitimate therapist who will work with them to explore their issues and anxieties. Someone who will assist them in better understanding who and what they are and give them space to COME TO THEIR OWN CONCLUSION about their sexuality. Someone WITHOUT an adgenda and a preconceived idea of what they -the therapist- wants the outcome to be. Can you get your head around that.? A very different thing that staring with the premis that the client can and must change.

Bullshit. If the therapist is one of you people, ideology will come first. You will shame him (or her) for wanting to change in a non approved manner.

 

[Correll]

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?! See posts 26 and 26 and see if you can make an appropriate and meaningful comment.

my meaning was clear. You needed to reply to talk shit, but you couldn't refute my point.

Do you think you fooled anyone?

 

[John T. Ford]

Does anyone know what medical model conversion therapy actually uses?

How do these therapist go about treating a patient that wants to convert?

Or are we simply going on what we have "heard" about it?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Bullshit. If the therapist is one of you people, ideology will come first. You will shame him (or her) for wanting to change in a non approved manner.

One of "you people" ? What t. he fuck does that mean/ Who? Liberals, gays ? Who!!?? Clearly you are pathetically ignorant of the thereputic process. I did an internship in psychotherapy- before going on to an administrative tract- but I know what I am talking about. Legitimate therapy involves begining where the client is at and letting them lead the way to find their own anwers. It should provide a same and nonjudgemental place where the client has permission decide what they want the outcome to be. The clint-not the therapist. That is the difference and that is why conversion therapy isa dangerout and coercive abomanation

It would be irresponsible, unethical and malpractice to do otherwise. I would not have thought that anyone-even you -could be that stupid, but I am reconsidering that.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Does anyone know what medical model conversion therapy actually uses?

How do these therapist go about treating a patient that wants to convert?

Or are we simply going on what we have "heard" about it?

See post 25 and 26 And try to respond appropriatly if you can

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

my meaning was clear. You needed to reply to talk shit, but you couldn't refute my point.

Do you think you fooled anyone?

What point was that, That I could not refute? You do not make a lot of sense.

 

[bodecea]

The gentleman decided to move from Gay to Normative, and has now dedicated his life to helping others who WANT to make the same trip to do so.

Why do libs get upset with people helping people to change when they want to?

Don't they believe that people have a right to change, and pursue the life that they want?

"Be all you can be", and there is nothing wrong with seeking a life of heterosexuality IMHO.

Exclusive | Milo Yiannopoulos to open conversion therapy facility in Florida

Right-wing cultural critic Milo Yiannopoulos came out last week as “ex-gay” — and is now preparing to open a controversial conversion therapy facility in Florida, The Post has lea…

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Oh.....I'm sure that will last.................. I look forward to his being outed again. And we all know it's gonna happen.

 

[John T. Ford]

See post 25 and 26 And try to respond appropriatly if you can

I did read those post and that's what prompted my question.

I feel like both you and Correll have a valid point about biased therapy.

Do you honestly know what the model of care in conversion therapy is?

What the approach is or are you going on some bias hearsay about it.

I don't claim to know.

 

[bodecea]

Is New Jersey a fag state?

Not as much as Texas is.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Thank you for that brilliant dissertation on the complexities of human sexuality snd gender identity. No doubt you have advanced degrees from the finest universities in biology, sociology , psychology and human development. Please keep your pearls of wisdome comming

Funny? Really? Please explaine Hellokitty

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I did read those post and that's what prompted my question.

I feel like both you and Correll have a valid point about biased therapy.

Do you honestly know what the model of care in conversion therapy is?

What the approach is or are you going on some bias hearsay about it.

I don't claim to know.

The model is shame and coersion. It is brainwshing. It does not qualify as therapy. You could say that it involves aversion theraoy and behavior mdification , but those techniques do not invilve the harsh and dehumanizing methods of conversion therapy

 

[John T. Ford]

The model is shame and coersion. It is brainwshing. It does not qualify as therapy. You could say that it involves aversion theraoy and behavior mdification , but those techniques do not invilve the harsh and dehumanizing methods of conversion therapy

Do you have evidence from a valid source you could link to this.

It sounds like demonizing reparative therapy to me.

It sounds barbaric.

Which means often times it's just hype.

Any person with half a brain would understand that what you describe would never work for anyone.

I don't believe what you describe is what is really going on in these therapy clinics.

 

[Dragonlady]

Libs are upset internationally about people leaving the Homosexual Lifestyle

No one here is trying to "exploit" anyone, just trying to help them transition to Normative.

Why Banning Anti-LGBT ‘Conversion Therapy’ isn’t Enough

From Canada to France, lawmakers want to stop attempts to ‘cure’ LGBT people. But they must also offer meaningful support to those harmed.

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Homosexuality is not a “lifestyle”. It can’t be picked up or abandoned on whims. There is absolutely no evidence that gay conversion therapy has ever worked on anyone. Strikes me that Milos is just trying to make a buck again.