‘Mr. Wonderful’ slams Trump ruling: ‘You might as well find guilty every real estate developer on Earth’

[martybegan]

The New York Apellate Division will uphold Engoron's ruling.
In the end Trump is just spending more money that he doesn't have to pay attorneys to file hopeless appeals.
Because ya know....he's not a very good businessman.

I doubt it. Because the appeals court has to follow the applicable law in a far more open forum than the trial court did.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Talk about babble. That was it.

Trump MIGHTget the award reduced. He will NOT get the case overturned

And in order to even appeal he’s going to have to put a shitload of money in escrow

Which he will of course have to borrow at significant cost

If he can find someone stupid enough to lend to him

Yes, he will.
Trump has been selling out for decades.
Fools and their $$$.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

So why isn't Trump charged by a federal court for this,

I don't know, they still could.

instead of being charged in a State by a prosecutor digging up a law never used as it was used against him?

A "new" law?
The NY law was passed in 1956.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

One, you can't prove it was a 'lie', valuations are subjective, and I guarantee that all of the relevant 'facts' were not allowed at trial as to why some properties were valued as they were.
Two, the bank negotiated the deal and took on the risk of what the values of the properties were and what value they would continue to hold going forward.
Three, only a portion of Trump's holdings needed to be used as collateral for the loan, the SFC contains everything, the deal may have only used a few of the properties or holdings as collateral, and not necessarily the ones that were brought up in the trial.
Four, it's up to the bank to verify any valuation to mitigate the risk that is taken on by the bank.
Five, you have zero knowledge of how any of it works, but you will defend corruption no matter what in your hatred of Trump.
Six, you've yet to show or point out where this has been used as it was in Trump's trial with anyone else, and then stupidly claim that maybe no one else has done it. And that is because it's never been used in this way, ever.

Don't bring experience and rationalization into the mix, you risk

 

[MagicMike]

The appeal will bring in 10 licensed appraisers who will share their experiences with completing about 50 like kind appraisals on properties per appraiser and that Eggberts “method” is not sanctioned and in fact erroneous and prohibited with the conclusions being made by the appeals court that Eggmorin did this with calculating deliberance thus fraud and misconduct
Yes chirping lib loon children who know nothing; that’s how it ends.

As long as you MAGAt Trumptards can keep pinning your hope on a moving target then you never have to actually aknowledge that you not only got conned by Trump but he persuaded you to actually fuse your identity to his in a sick, cultish, fanaticism where you are convinced now that the entire rest of the world is wrong and crazy and only he...this ONE person is right.
And this is why he needs to be finally imprisoned.
He needs to hit the virtual end of the rope, with no more false hope on endless, fruitless appeals, for you cultists to come to grips with reality.
You were duped and manipulated all along.

 

[OldFlame]

The appeal will bring in 10 licensed appraisers who will share their experiences with completing about 50 like kind appraisals on properties per appraiser and that Eggberts “method” is not sanctioned and in fact erroneous and prohibited with the conclusions being made by the appeals court that Eggmorin did this with calculating deliberance thus fraud and misconduct
Yes chirping lib loon children who know nothing; that’s how it ends.

Spot on! They don't care, they just want to drag Trump through the mud to try to impact the election outcome. Just like the 'Russian collusion', it will be overturned and no one will give a damn at that point, it's all about inflicting damage in the here and now.

 

[OldFlame]

He lied according to who? The entire action against Trump is subjective with a foundation of getting Trump at all costs. The governor said as much.

Yep, we've been over all of that, she only cares what the idiot judge says, no one else.

 

[Mac-7]

‘You might as well find guilty every real estate developer on Earth’​

To marxists every real estate developer is guilty of bring rich and deserves to be punished by the state

 

[IDIOCRACY]

As long as you MAGAt Trumptards can keep pinning your hope on a moving target then you never have to actually aknowledge that you not only got conned by Trump but he persuaded you to actually fuse your identity to his in a sick, cultish, fanaticism where you are convinced now that the entire rest of the world is wrong and crazy and only he...this ONE person is right.
And this is why he needs to be finally imprisoned.
He needs to hit the virtual end of the rope, with no more false hope on endless, fruitless appeals, for you cultists to come to grips with reality.
You were duped and manipulated all along.

All you had to say is you have a problem. I have the cure.

 

[Lesh]

He lied according to who? The entire action against Trump is subjective with a foundation of getting Trump at all costs. The governor said as much.

The Governor said that?

Quote and link then..

None will be provided of course. Note the “said as much” which means she did NOT say that

 

[Lesh]

All you had to say is you have a problem. I have the cure.

View attachment 906073

Save it for Trump.

He just got the Remus Screamus

 

[Marener]

No, it's getting bogged down in minutiae because that's all you care about in your spectrum addled mind.

Was the appraisal for tax purposes, or sale purposes? Potential use of the property applies to one of those.

If the bank didn't like it, they were required to either reject the loan or do their own research on the use of the property as collateral.

This isn’t “minutiae” since it’s central to the allegations.

Appraisals are used for all sorts of things, including determine your current financial condition.

You can’t claim potential improvements of a property in the current market value since those improvements do not exist currently. Words have meaning.

 

[OldFlame]

The Governor said that?

Quote and link then..

None will be provided of course. Note the “said as much” which means she did NOT say that

Are you too stupid to use google?

 

[Marener]

there was no trial you lying cock sucker,,

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-civil-fraud-trial-testimony-concludes-2023-12-13/

 

[OldFlame]

This isn’t “minutiae” since it’s central to the allegations.

Appraisals are used for all sorts of things, including determine your current financial condition.

You can’t claim potential improvements of a property in the current market value since those improvements do not exist currently. Words have meaning.

The appeal will come and it will outline the fraud perpetuated in the trial.

Your last statement, how are houses built?

 

[progressive hunter]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-civil-fraud-trial-testimony-concludes-2023-12-13/

you people are so brain dead its unbelievable,,

the judge ruled guilt without a trial and this trial was for damages,,

 

[Marener]

One, you can't prove it was a 'lie', valuations are subjective, and I guarantee that all of the relevant 'facts' were not allowed at trial as to why some properties were valued as they were.

If the valuation was based on a fact which is untrue, then it is a lie. Trump used false information to base his valuations on. False information like the nonexistent mansions, the lack of rent control, nonexistent licensing deals, nonexistent approval to build additional homes.

Theres lots of subjectivity in appraisals, but there are also facts. Trump lied about those facts.

Two, the bank negotiated the deal and took on the risk of what the values of the properties were and what value they would continue to hold going forward.

Irrelevant. Once Trump submitted false information, it was fraud.

Three, only a portion of Trump's holdings needed to be used as collateral for the loan, the SFC contains everything, the deal may have only used a few of the properties or holdings as collateral, and not necessarily the ones that were brought up in the trial.

Irrelevant. See above.

Four, it's up to the bank to verify any valuation to mitigate the risk that is taken on by the bank.

Irrelevant. See above.

Five, you have zero knowledge of how any of it works, but you will defend corruption no matter what in your hatred of Trump.

You have zero knowledge of what happened between Trump and the bank and refuse to educate yourself.

Six, you've yet to show or point out where this has been used as it was in Trump's trial with anyone else, and then stupidly claim that maybe no one else has done it. And that is because it's never been used in this way, ever.

I never claimed to be able to do so and it is also irrelevant.

 

[Marener]

The appeal will come and it will outline the fraud perpetuated in the trial.

Your last statement, how are houses built?

I’m still waiting to hear what the fraud perpetrated at trial was.

Houses are built with wood and nails. What kind of question is that?

 

[Marener]

you people are so brain dead its unbelievable,,

the judge ruled guilt without a trial and this trial was for damages,,

False. The summary judgement was for only the first count. The trial was for counts 2-7.

 

[Marener]

Did the bank rely on those valuations? As a result of that reliance, what were their losses.

The banks said they believed Trump’s valuations were largely accurate and used them to determine whether to make the loan with favorable rates.