Mother of 4 deported

[bripat9643]

I don't see this lady as a criminal and I think it is wrong for her to be deported. The damage it does to her family and community is much worse that whatever is gained be deporting her. I actually can't think of a thing that is gained by deporting her

That's a distinction you don't get to make my friend. Ted Bundy would say that he doesn't see Richard Rimarez as a criminal. But thankfully we don't listen to Ted Bundy. When you break the law (and she did), you're a criminal. Period.

I had a fake ID when I was in high school, so I guess her and I are both criminals.

Is anyone here advocating to not prosecute people for using fake IDs?

 

[P@triot]

A word of advice to all of you left-wingers who can't defend your position with facts, or rational thought, or reason, etc. : the bleeding heart schtick will never work with us. We're too educated and informed. We recognize that you're resorting to something so silly because you can't make a reasonable case for your position. You are wasting your time.

 

[P@triot]

I don't see this lady as a criminal and I think it is wrong for her to be deported. The damage it does to her family and community is much worse that whatever is gained be deporting her. I actually can't think of a thing that is gained by deporting her

That's a distinction you don't get to make my friend. Ted Bundy would say that he doesn't see Richard Rimarez as a criminal. But thankfully we don't listen to Ted Bundy. When you break the law (and she did), you're a criminal. Period.

I had a fake ID when I was in high school, so I guess her and I are both criminals.

As a matter of fact - you are, brother. Literally.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I didn't go to the link, but I have another question about this case:

She is a mother of four. She is an illegal so she shouldn't be employed anywhere. The question I have is, how is she supporting these four children in her position? We have legals and many American born people here that can't support a family of five.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I just saw this story on CNN. This mother of 4 got caught trying to cross the border with a fake visa 20 years ago, because of this she couldn't not get another visa but was told she could stay in the US but had to check in with ICE twice a year, which she did for the past 18 years. Now her entire family is here (mother, husband, 4 children and they are all American citizens. CNN covers her journey to check in with ICE as they were all nervous about the changes that came with President Trump.

She met with ICE and they told her she was good for another year. She left the building, gave her children hugs and then got called back in by ICE to find out that they were deporting her in July.

I get deporting violent criminals, I hear people asking Trump and his surrogates what they will do with non-violent criminal illegal immigrants and I hear them kicking the can saying they will deal with it later. But then I see stories like this were a mother who is not a violent criminal gets deported and a family is ripped apart.

Thoughts?

Using fraudulent papers should have meant she was deported at the time she was caught.

Because the previous governments allowed her to stay was their choice but what she did was a automatic deportation and because it is happening now is sad for her family but law is the law.

I know you will most likely tell me I am harsh and should be deported instead but think of it this way if you illegally enter Mexico or let say North Korea with fake papers what would happen!?!

If you write well that is different, well sure but other countries would toss you in prison and after your family paid or you did your time they would then deport you, well North Korea might kill you.

So her just checking in over eighteen years was nice but the government has told her it is time to leave.

Her family has hard decision to make and they need to remember their family members broke the law and in the end they knew she was not staying and if they did not know this, well they should have known...

 

[S.J.]

I had a fake ID when I was in high school, so I guess her and I are both criminals.

Yes.

 

[P@triot]

I don't see this lady as a criminal and I think it is wrong for her to be deported. The damage it does to her family and community is much worse that whatever is gained be deporting her.

The damage to her family is her fault. What kind of selfish **** has children in a nation where she is not a citizen and not there legally?!? First she violates the law, and then she selfishly has children. And for some bizarre reason, you want to absolve her of all responsibility (which is the typical MO of the left). You people always want to absolve the individual of complete responsibility and make it the responsibility of society.

 

[Slade3200]

Her children didn't violate the law and they are losing their mother. Her husband and mother didn't violate the law and they are losing a wife and daughter. She violated the law 20 years ago but then complied with ICE for the past 18 years. If that sounds like justice to you then you have a warped sense of right and wrong.

Guess what brother - neither Bernie Madoff's wife or his children violated the law. So by your own position, they should be entitled to keep his entire wealth and live high in the sky. Yet every single one of you left-wingers lost your freaking minds about it and demanded that his assets be confiscated. They were, the wife and children were kicked out of their home and lost most of everything they owned. Oops.

And guess what else? Neither the Green River Killer's wife or children were guilty of anything. But they too lost a husband and a father when he was sent off to prison (where he belongs). I don't hear you advocating for his freedom for the sake of his wife and children.

Guess what chief? Criminals who make bad decisions negatively impact their friends and families. The justice system doesn't give a shit - nor should it. The justice system's job is to impartially enforce the law. Next?

You're smart enough to know what a false equivalence is right? Don't insult my intelligence by using them on me.

 

[Slade3200]

I just saw this story on CNN. This mother of 4 got caught trying to cross the border with a fake visa 20 years ago, because of this she couldn't not get another visa but was told she could stay in the US but had to check in with ICE twice a year, which she did for the past 18 years. Now her entire family is here (mother, husband, 4 children and they are all American citizens. CNN covers her journey to check in with ICE as they were all nervous about the changes that came with President Trump.

She met with ICE and they told her she was good for another year. She left the building, gave her children hugs and then got called back in by ICE to find out that they were deporting her in July.

I get deporting violent criminals, I hear people asking Trump and his surrogates what they will do with non-violent criminal illegal immigrants and I hear them kicking the can saying they will deal with it later. But then I see stories like this were a mother who is not a violent criminal gets deported and a family is ripped apart.

Thoughts?

Well, I was on jury that supposedly "ripped apart an illegal alien family", like say divorce ... The asshole illegal alien hurt an another illegal alien. DAMN. The irony of this, we found the moron guilty and after serving his sentence, he will be deported to Mexico. His marriage status had nothing to do with it. It's a penalty of violating immigration law. Pain pure and simple

Thats wonderful and totally different than this situation, but thanks for sharing your story

 

[P@triot]

Her children didn't violate the law and they are losing their mother. Her husband and mother didn't violate the law and they are losing a wife and daughter. She violated the law 20 years ago but then complied with ICE for the past 18 years. If that sounds like justice to you then you have a warped sense of right and wrong.

Guess what brother - neither Bernie Madoff's wife or his children violated the law. So by your own position, they should be entitled to keep his entire wealth and live high in the sky. Yet every single one of you left-wingers lost your freaking minds about it and demanded that his assets be confiscated. They were, the wife and children were kicked out of their home and lost most of everything they owned. Oops.

And guess what else? Neither the Green River Killer's wife or children were guilty of anything. But they too lost a husband and a father when he was sent off to prison (where he belongs). I don't hear you advocating for his freedom for the sake of his wife and children.

Guess what chief? Criminals who make bad decisions negatively impact their friends and families. The justice system doesn't give a shit - nor should it. The justice system's job is to impartially enforce the law. Next?

You're smart enough to know what a false equivalence is right? Don't insult my intelligence by using them on me.

Left you speechless? I understand. Nobody would have a rational response to my post. Nobody could. It's impossible. In sports terms, my post was "the dagger". It ended the debate.

 

[P@triot]

Thats wonderful and totally different than this situation, but thanks for sharing your story

Every situation is different from another, genius. Ted Bundy's situation was completely different from Jeffery Dahmer's. What in the hell kind of defense is that?!?

 

[Slade3200]

Are we gonna have to go through this crap every time an illegal is deported? What upsets the left about this is that they're losing a lot of votes...Illegal votes, but votes nonetheless.

I didn't vote for Hillary so I really don't give a shit about the partisan spin... I just want somebody smart, competent and trustworthy in the whitehouse.

 

[Godboy]

I just saw this story on CNN. This mother of 4 got caught trying to cross the border with a fake visa 20 years ago, because of this she couldn't not get another visa but was told she could stay in the US but had to check in with ICE twice a year, which she did for the past 18 years. Now her entire family is here (mother, husband, 4 children and they are all American citizens. CNN covers her journey to check in with ICE as they were all nervous about the changes that came with President Trump.

She met with ICE and they told her she was good for another year. She left the building, gave her children hugs and then got called back in by ICE to find out that they were deporting her in July.

I get deporting violent criminals, I hear people asking Trump and his surrogates what they will do with non-violent criminal illegal immigrants and I hear them kicking the can saying they will deal with it later. But then I see stories like this were a mother who is not a violent criminal gets deported and a family is ripped apart.

Thoughts?

What kind of shitty family wouldnt go with her? They are very selfish people.

 

[P@triot]

I didn't vote for Hillary so I really don't give a shit about the partisan spin... I just want somebody smart, competent and trustworthy in the whitehouse.

You wish is granted! Donald Trump is sitting in the White House and he is taking care of business in a BIG way!

 

[Slade3200]

I don't see this lady as a criminal and I think it is wrong for her to be deported. The damage it does to her family and community is much worse that whatever is gained be deporting her. I actually can't think of a thing that is gained by deporting her

That's a distinction you don't get to make my friend. Ted Bundy would say that he doesn't see Richard Rimarez as a criminal. But thankfully we don't listen to Ted Bundy. When you break the law (and she did), you're a criminal. Period.

I had a fake ID when I was in high school, so I guess her and I are both criminals.

You didn't get caught. If you were going to bars with a fake ID, and the cops busted you, you would have went to jail and then to court.

You're right, then I would have probably been put on probation and if I followed what I was instructed to do i sure as hell hope it wouldn't come back to bite me in the ass 18 years later.

 

[S.J.]

Are we gonna have to go through this crap every time an illegal is deported? What upsets the left about this is that they're losing a lot of votes...Illegal votes, but votes nonetheless.

I didn't vote for Hillary so I really don't give a shit about the partisan spin... I just want somebody smart, competent and trustworthy in the whitehouse.

Translation: I want somebody who will do what I want them to do, regardless of the law.

 

[P@triot]

You're right, then I would have probably been put on probation and if I followed what I was instructed to do i sure as hell hope it wouldn't come back to bite me in the ass 18 years later.

Right? And this is what happens when we don't obey/enforce the law. Had the Clinton Administration done the right thing 20 years ago, this wouldn't be an issue today. You're literally proving our point for us.

 

[Slade3200]

I didn't go to the link, but I have another question about this case:

She is a mother of four. She is an illegal so she shouldn't be employed anywhere. The question I have is, how is she supporting these four children in her position? We have legals and many American born people here that can't support a family of five.

Just watch the video its a 2 minute story you can see for yourself... or google Francisca Lino , thats her name

 

[leftwinger]

I didn't go to the link, but I have another question about this case:

She is a mother of four. She is an illegal so she shouldn't be employed anywhere. The question I have is, how is she supporting these four children in her position? We have legals and many American born people here that can't support a family of five.

Board is slow?? Link took forever?
18 years and speaks no English on camera? Huh? I was in Seoul for 5 weeks and learned 13 high words. And I am unemployed useless human garbage. She don't know anything? And her Pastor and Lawyer was there? Wth? I don't have a lawyer!

Tablet or board barely useable. Dont make me go to PC or I will go on posting binge!

 

[Desperado]

All this proves is that the United States has ignored its' own immigration laws for 20 years.
Times are a changing