Moscow saboteurs dumped kilograms of metal shavings into the propulsion system of a brand new German NATO warship. Sabotage is an act of war

Rejoin with Crimea went fine. But DPR&LPR were attacked by Ukraine.
And when Ukraine attacked DPR and LPR, allied of Russia, it was equal to attack against Russian Federation itself. So, Russian actions are simply collective self-defense.
My recollection is that the fighting stopped by 2014, then Putin invaded from the north and tried to take Kiev by force, and failed.
From the Russian (and not only Russian) point of view, they are criminals. They violated international law (but unprovoked aggressions) and their internal laws (like, say, legalisation of MJ, homosexual "marriages" and cancelling the results of elections) looks like criminal.
I have no clue why internal laws are criminal? Just the opposite. What examples are you referring to? Putin cancels election results as well as kills opposition leaders.
And this point of view leads you directly into WWIII. Actually, "Global South" see "West" as guys trying to play God, with no mineral or military resources to support their claims. Ones and zeroes in bank computers, as well as the hordes of lawyers and prostitutes are not "resources".
If you think NATO has no military power you are mistaken. Some Russian leader said that US society was "decadent". Democrats are, Republicans are not. Please recall why the USSR broke apart, because of those ones and zeroes in bank computers.
And we know what we should do with those, who pretends to be the "master race".
Not a master race, but the "world's cop", not by choice, but by necessity.
Of course no. Russia can defeat the USA, and the whole NATO. It might be gambling and the price of victory might be terrible, but we have pretty good chances to do it.
Very bad idea, rethink that opinion.
There were no any referendums about joining NATO, as far as I know. Nobody asked people of those countries if they want to join NATO. And Russia always ask people.
If people elect leaders, and they ask to join NATO, that is how democracy works.
Plain lie & Plain lie.
NATO countries are peaceful and cultured, and do not invade other countries. Those are facts, not lies.
Which country did NATO invade? Hint: none
Non of your business.
Putin's evil allies are everyone's business. No one wants brutal dictators governing any country. Communism is a disease.
Of course no. We would be in start officially discrimated and abused, and in the end - genocided. It were Western countries who started genocide of Russians.
Now you're hallucinating. Capitalistic countries want to make business deals, not killing workers and consumers.
For you - may be. Dedollarisation of the world economy will cause collapse of American economy. For Russia it is all pretty fine and getting better.
True, if the dollar collapses that would be very bad for the US, which is why we elected Trump and Republicans. Russia's economy is not prospering, but its their choice, be wealthy, or be kulaks.
You can't imagine how am I hurt because of your denialism of the obvious facts.
I only know what my own eyes see.
Actually, no. You agreed that you can discriminate and kill Russians, not we.
We don't kill Russians. We help Ukraine defend from Russian invasion. If Russia stopped the invasion no one would die.
Its not about Putin at all. Its not his personal project or something. There is only one way to avoid WWIII:
In Ukraine: denazification, demilitarization and neutral status.
In Europe: creating the system of the equal safety and equal rights, return of NATO's military infrastructure back to 1997 borders, end of discrimination of Russians. Denuclearisation of France and the UK and well as division of Germany might be useful, as well.
In the world: end of Pax Americana, returning to multipolar world system.
Putin is a dictator, he planned and ordered the failed invasion of Ukraine, so it is his personal project.
Ukraine is a sovereign country, there are no Nazis, Hitler is dead. NATO membership is being negotiated, maybe EU membership, they don't want to be in Putin's "sphere of influence".
Europe and NATO are not in Russia's "sphere of influence" so Putin cannot make any demands.
End Pax Americana? Does that refer to American foreign policy? Not sure what a "multi-polar" world looks like?
No world wars in 75 years is a good thing.
 
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My recollection is that the fighting stopped by 2014, then Putin invaded from the north and tried to take Kiev by force, and failed.


Utter nonsense .
Kyiv troops shelled Donbass every day from 2014 onwards and regularly sent in raiding parties .
Around 15000 killed .
Daily shelling went up from 200 a day to nearly 2000 before Russia took pre-emptive action against a force twice as large who were ready to invade days after Russia beat them to the draw .

Moscow bluffed the UAF and you by not marching on Kyiv
That was the ruse that enabled them to turn ninety degrees and trap the UAF on the eastern front line whilst also attacking from the West behind them.

A slaughter house which is being maintained right now .

The UAF plus NATO losses are probably around one million compared to ca, 200 000 for Russia .
You will have noticed that the MSM has stopped releasing Hoax figures recently , now that the discrepancy versus reality is so huge .

Another little secret is that the US bombed three of their own Bio Labs because they were so scared of the contents being disclosed.
Around 36 Bio Labs in total -- all paid for and built by the US.
 
My recollection is that the fighting stopped by 2014, then Putin invaded from the north and tried to take Kiev by force, and failed.
You just forgot about Odessa massacre, about terror in Kharkov, about Minsk agreements and about shelling of Donbass. In the last attempt to solve the problem (and stop shelling of Donbass and terror against Russians), Russia recognised DPR and LPR and signed mutual defense agreements (which made attacks against DPR and LPR equal to attack against Russian Federation itself) and said "Try to shell them (us) one more time..." And they shelled. So, it was pure and absolutely legal self-defense.

I have no clue why internal laws are criminal?
It is simple. Russians and Chinamen, say, believe that poisoning (and drug dealing) is murder and criminal by its very nature. When a government protects drug-dealing it doesn't make drug-dealing "legal" in the eyes of Chinamen. It makes (in their eyes) US government "criminal". Same is about religious Russians (laymen of Russian Orthodox Church). They don't see marriage as a secular and arbitrary thing. It is the will of God. Homosexual marriage is a sin because it violates the will of God, and US government, by violation of the will of God - are sinners and Satanists, too.

Just the opposite. What examples are you referring to? Putin cancels election results as well as kills opposition leaders.
Russians usually don't see killing opposition leaders (or killing acting Presidents or Tzars) as something basically wrong. Fighting for leadership might be very dangerous and if you play this game - you accept all risks.

If you think NATO has no military power you are mistaken.
You have. But not much. What is even more important - it doesn't matter how many nukes the USA posses during peacetime conditions. What is important - is how many of US nukes might survive the first Russian counter-force strike.

Some Russian leader said that US society was "decadent". Democrats are, Republicans are not.
Both are more or less equal. The difference between Republicans and Democrats is lesser than the difference between Coca-cola and Pepsi-Cola.

Please recall why the USSR broke apart, because of those ones and zeroes in bank computers.
It demands much more than few lectures, but long story short - you are wrong. Russia made deal with the USA and dismissed both Warsaw's Pact and USSR. Actually, Russia exchanged east-european market on tyr world's market. And the deal was more or less acceptable while NATO stayed beyond Elbe.

Not a master race, but the "world's cop", not by choice, but by necessity.
A cop, violating laws isn't a cop, he is just another gangster.

Very bad idea, rethink that opinion.
Actually, not. It might become "lesser evil". And, looks like it is the only option.

If people elect leaders, and they ask to join NATO, that is how democracy works.
That's why your "democracy" doesn't work. You don't care about actual will of people.
NATO countries are peaceful and cultured, and do not invade other countries. Those are facts, not lies.
It is plain lie. Countries, who now are members of NATO invades Russia at least twice a century during the recent millennia. They all are evil barbarians (and Hitler wasn't the worst among them). Say nothing about numerous "low scale" genocidal conflicts, started by them.

Which country did NATO invade? Hint: none
In recent years NATO members invaded in Syria, Iraq, Lybia, Serbia, Nicaragua and many othet countries.

Putin's evil allies are everyone's business. No one wants brutal dictators governing any country. Communism is a disease.
Or, what is also possible, "Democracy" is a disease. And in the simple medical meaning, the later statement is more realistic, for homosexuality and drug-addictions are illnesses.

Now you're hallucinating. Capitalistic countries want to make business deals, not killing workers and consumers.
Capitalism do kill people. But it is not about capitalism/socialism/feudalism etc...

We don't kill Russians. We help Ukraine defend from Russian invasion.
No. You just hired Banderlogs to kill Russians.

If Russia stopped the invasion no one would die.
Plain lie. If Russia accept some kind of "ceasefire" Banderlogs will continue killing people in Odessa, Kharkov, Kiev and Dniepropetrovsk. And what is worse - NATO will deploy medium range missiles in East Europe and will start nuclear war by attacking Russia.

Putin is a dictator, he planned and ordered the failed invasion of Ukraine, so it is his personal project.
Of course no. Actually, the very beginning of the Russian spring in Donbass was crowdfunded and organised by opposition, first of all -by Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia and Communist Party of Russia. The simplest way to earn political points in Russia - is to do something to save Russians.

Ukraine is a sovereign country, there are no Nazis, Hitler is dead.
There are Nazies. Hitler is dead, but NATO is still alive and kicking.

NATO membership is being negotiated, maybe EU membership, they don't want to be in Putin's "sphere of influence".
And we don't want NATO's existence.
Europe and NATO are not in Russia's "sphere of influence" so Putin cannot make any demands.
No, we can, and we do.

End Pax Americana? Does that refer to American foreign policy?
Yes. No more "American foreign policy". You should care about America, not about Eurasia.

Not sure what a "multi-polar" world looks like?
No world wars in 75 years is a good thing.
You violated and destroyed the world order that have been keeping peace. And no, there were better results after Napoleonic wars and Seven years war.
 
You just forgot about Odessa massacre, about terror in Kharkov, about Minsk agreements and about shelling of Donbass. In the last attempt to solve the problem (and stop shelling of Donbass and terror against Russians), Russia recognised DPR and LPR and signed mutual defense agreements (which made attacks against DPR and LPR equal to attack against Russian Federation itself) and said "Try to shell them (us) one more time..." And they shelled. So, it was pure and absolutely legal self-defense.
You keep trying to justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Those excuses might sound good to you, but to NATO they don't justify an invasion.
It is simple. Russians and Chinamen, say, believe that poisoning (and drug dealing) is murder and criminal by its very nature. When a government protects drug-dealing it doesn't make drug-dealing "legal" in the eyes of Chinamen. It makes (in their eyes) US government "criminal". Same is about religious Russians (laymen of Russian Orthodox Church). They don't see marriage as a secular and arbitrary thing. It is the will of God. Homosexual marriage is a sin because it violates the will of God, and US government, by violation of the will of God - are sinners and Satanists, too.
China sends fentanyl compounds to the US killing 100,000 stupid Americans every year. Trump wants to end that.
God is a tricky subject, He has strict rules. Here in the US we have freedom of religion, or freedom from religion. The battle-lines are teaching or exposing kids to homosexuality as democrats want to do, or to never mention homosexuality in schools as Republicans want to do as demanded by parental and religious rights. This battle is still ongoig.
Russians usually don't see killing opposition leaders (or killing acting Presidents or Tzars) as something basically wrong. Fighting for leadership might be very dangerous and if you play this game - you accept all risks.
Trump has a bullet scar on his ear to prove that. It is against civilized rules for democracies.
You have. But not much. What is even more important - it doesn't matter how many nukes the USA posses during peacetime conditions. What is important - is how many of US nukes might survive the first Russian counter-force strike.
We have more than enough to survive a first strike.
Both are more or less equal. The difference between Republicans and Democrats is lesser than the difference between Coca-cola and Pepsi-Cola.
You are very wrong. Rs and Ds are like night and day different.
It demands much more than few lectures, but long story short - you are wrong. Russia made deal with the USA and dismissed both Warsaw's Pact and USSR. Actually, Russia exchanged east-european market on tyr world's market. And the deal was more or less acceptable while NATO stayed beyond Elbe.
The USSR broke apart because Communism lost to Capitalism...long story short.
A cop, violating laws isn't a cop, he is just another gangster.
True, You just described the Biden administration.
That's why your "democracy" doesn't work. You don't care about actual will of people.
Democracy doesn't work when the 'free press" becomes a government propaganda network, like here in the US.
It is plain lie. Countries, who now are members of NATO invades Russia at least twice a century during the recent millennia. They all are evil barbarians (and Hitler wasn't the worst among them). Say nothing about numerous "low scale" genocidal conflicts, started by them.
I'm talking since WW2, since we're alive. NATO has zero invasions.
In recent years NATO members invaded in Syria, Iraq, Lybia, Serbia, Nicaragua and many other countries.
To me invaded means "to capture" and keep territory. The countries NATO invaded kept is zero.
Or, what is also possible, "Democracy" is a disease. And in the simple medical meaning, the later statement is more realistic, for homosexuality and drug-addictions are illnesses.
Democracy is a political system, where the majority rules, it is not a disease, a dictatorship is a disease.
Capitalism kills people. But it is not about capitalism/socialism/feudalism etc...
Where/when does capitalism kill people? It can't its an economic system, it has no army.
No. You just hired Banderlogs to kill Russians.
We helped Ukrainians defend their country from a Russian invasion.
Plain lie. If Russia accept some kind of "ceasefire" Banderlogs will continue killing people in Odessa, Kharkov, Kiev and Dniepropetrovsk. And what is worse - NATO will deploy medium range missiles in East Europe and will start nuclear war by attacking Russia.
A plain lie. Ukrainians only kill Russian invaders or violent rioters.
Of course no. Actually, the very beginning of the Russian spring in Donbass was crowdfunded and organised by opposition, first of all -by Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia and Communist Party of Russia. The simplest way to earn political points in Russia - is to do something to save Russians.
So Russians fomented unrest among ethnic Russians living in Ukraine, giving Putin the pretext to invade to "save"ethnic Russians. That's why there are always wars in Europe, too much ethnic mixing and too much political ambition for more territory.
And we don't want NATO's existence.
Careful, you don't want to start something you can't finish.
No, we can, and we do.
You can make demands of NATO, but what do you do when NATO says "**** off"? Russia has boundaries/borders for a reason.
Yes. No more "American foreign policy". You should care about America, not about Eurasia.
American foreign policy varies based on who is president. I like Marco Rubio, he is smart and tough. Vance is smart and tough, but is too young. Democrats are too stupid.
You violated and destroyed the world order that have been keeping peace. And no, there were better results after Napoleonic wars and Seven years war.
The US and NATO kept and are keeping the world order since WW2.
But countries like China are now on the stage looking for more influence.
 
You keep trying to justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Those excuses might sound good to you, but to NATO they don't justify an invasion.
I know it pretty well. NATO countries doesn't understand what is international law, they don't care about human rights, they cheered mass murders of Russians.... But there is one (and only one) thing that NATO countries understand. It is military power, and the threat of the virtually total nuclear annihilation.

China sends fentanyl compounds to the US killing 100,000 stupid Americans every year. Trump wants to end that.
He tell that he wants it. But, in fact, he (and anyone else in America) did nothing to fight the poisoners. Actually, US government and US laws protect, say, MJ-traders. An ordinary citizen have no right even to kill a pusher and burn down an official MJ-shop without being punished by the government.
It means that US government is cooperative with drug-dealers and, therefore, they are drug-dealers and poisoners themselves. That makes them traitors and criminals.
God is a tricky subject, He has strict rules. Here in the US we have freedom of religion, or freedom from religion. The battle-lines are teaching or exposing kids to homosexuality as democrats want to do, or to never mention homosexuality in schools as Republicans want to do as demanded by parental and religious rights. This battle is still ongoig.
No more than "Nanai Boys' Wrestling". You know, the sort of exhibition, imitating the fight between two boys, but actually with one man in both costumes.






Trump has a bullet scar on his ear to prove that. It is against civilized rules for democracies.

Trump was lucky. What about Kennedy? And what about uncounted victims of Killary and other politicians?
We have more than enough to survive a first strike.
No. The ocean becames more and more transparent with all those new detectors and new computer systems to analyse the signals.
Even read about, say, CEνNS antineutrino detectors?

You are very wrong. Rs and Ds are like night and day different.
In practical terms - no. Just the little cosmetic changes.

The USSR broke apart because Communism lost to Capitalism...long story short.
Actually, "pure communism" lost in 1919, when the Soviets understood that more or less free market is absolutely necessary. And the "pure capitalism" never existed, at least because on the "absolutely free markets" given the very definition of the term, should be, among other things, the services of people who limit the freedoms of the markets.

True, You just described the Biden administration.
All administrations. As if Trump didn't order illegal attack against Syria.
Democracy doesn't work when the 'free press" becomes a government propaganda network, like here in the US.
So, there is no democracy in the USA (and even less in the EU).

I'm talking since WW2, since we're alive. NATO has zero invasions.
The USA commited a lot of invasions. They just didn't want to take responsibility and prefered raids, not proper conquest.
To me invaded means "to capture" and keep territory. The countries NATO invaded kept is zero.
Wven with your "narrow" definition, Germany invaded and still keep DDR. England invaded and still keep Falklands. NATO invaded Serbia and still have the base in Kosovo. But, actually, people prefer the wider meanings of the term - like, you know, Invasion is when you use military force against other countries.

Democracy is a political system, where the majority rules, it is not a disease, a dictatorship is a disease.
Actually, in all political systems minority rules and in most political systems this minority cares about the will of majority. Any man has as much power over you as you give him.

Where/when does capitalism kill people? It can't its an economic system, it has no army.
Any economic or political system exists only because they have Army and Police.

We helped Ukrainians defend their country from a Russian invasion.
Is it why the borders are closed and male Ukrainians can't leave Ukraine ? Is it why most of them can't freely use the language they prefer? Is that why all opposition is opressed and death squads kill people without judje decision and "president" office take property of other people by its own decision?

A plain lie. Ukrainians only kill Russian invaders or violent rioters.
Man, establish "The High Council of Den-ggerisation and Delatinization" in the USA, ban "Black music" (including Rap and Jazz), declare that the Democrats are enemies of America and force them to leave the USA or die in death camps.... And yes, you'll have both "violant rioters" and "civil war" in the USA.

In practical terms it means that any ceasefire that won't include equal rights to Russian speakers will immediately cause "violent riots" (or "justful rebellions") in, say, Odessa and Kharkov. If Kievan regime try to supress them by military force - Russian Federation will be involved (with or without Putin's order). If Putin sides with anti-Russians, and try to stop Russian help to Russian people, ok, he'll be killed by Russian people and the next president will destroy Kievan regime.

So Russians fomented unrest among ethnic Russians living in Ukraine, giving Putin the pretext to invade to "save"ethnic Russians.
Russians are human beings. Russians are fighting for their rights. You attack one of us, you attack all of us. You ban Russian language - Russian protest against it (peacefully or violently). You use military force against them - they use military force against you. If Putin (or anybody else) don't want to defend Russians - he cease being Russian president.

That's why there are always wars in Europe, too much ethnic mixing and too much political ambition for more territory.
Big amount of ethnicities isn't bad by itself. When the government protect all of them, if there is no really significant discrimination and attempts of genocide - people prefer live in peace.

Careful, you don't want to start something you can't finish.

Of course we can finish you. It might be costly, but possible.
You can make demands of NATO, but what do you do when NATO says "**** off"?
First, we'll eliminate NATO's (first of all, American) nuclear weapons and suggest new (worse for you) peace term. If you reject our quite moderate and reasonable peace terms (you don't retaliate, you return us Alaska and California, but the USA still exists as an independent power) and launch counter-value strike, we'll bomb you with nukes, chemical, biological weapons and autonomous robot systems until your unconditional surrender or total anni

Russia has boundaries/borders for a reason.
All boundaries are limited. More pressure - lesser boundaries.

In the case of a nation whose enemies' avowed objective is nothing short of physical annihilation, there is no defensive that can be called extreme. And, of course, there is no boundaries when you are fighting for your very physical survival.

American foreign policy varies based on who is president. I like Marco Rubio, he is smart and tough. Vance is smart and tough, but is too young. Democrats are too stupid.
In practical terms they are all the same. They both understand only the language of force.

The US and NATO kept and are keeping the world order since WW2.
No. It was system of collective defense (including UN) that was keeping the peace.

But countries like China are now on the stage looking for more influence.
They have pretty good reasons to want it, haven't they? I mean, the suggested world system, in which China and India provide cheap labour force, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Latin America provide cheap resources, Europe and America military and politically supress them all, but morally degrade and invite the tons of foreigners - it doesn't seem satisfactory for most of people (including ordinary people of America and Europe, who are losing their jobs, who are losing their land, who are losing their moral laws and who are forced to fight and die in the absolutely unnecessary for them wars).
 
In Moskow- 🇸🇦 🇷🇺 Mongol ulus they practice annihilation, extermination and deportations of whole nations and replacing them with loyal population. They do it since 15th century.
 
I know it pretty well. NATO countries don't understand what is international law, they don't care about human rights, they cheered mass murders of Russians.... But there is one (and only one) thing that NATO countries understand. It is military power, and the threat of the virtually total nuclear annihilation.
There was never mass murder of Russians in Ukraine, but there were Russian proxies killing Ukrainians during the Maidan Revolt
He tell that he wants it. But, in fact, he (and anyone else in America) did nothing to fight the poisoners. Actually, US government and US laws protect, say, MJ-traders. An ordinary citizen have no right even to kill a pusher and burn down an official MJ-shop without being punished by the government. It means that US government is cooperative with drug-dealers and, therefore, they are drug-dealers and poisoners themselves. That makes them traitors and criminals.
China ships fentanyl to drug cartels in Mexico, and they distribute it throughout the US. Trump needs to use the military.
Trump was lucky. What about Kennedy? And what about uncounted victims of Killary and other politicians?
True. Kennedy was killed by the military, Trump was shot at by the "deep state", Killary found out when Vince Foster committed suicide with the wrong hand.
No. The ocean becomes more and more transparent with all those new detectors and new computer systems to analyse the signals.
Even read about, say, CEνNS antineutrino detectors?
Way over my head...
All administrations. As if Trump didn't order illegal attack against Syria.
Trump destroyed ISIS. Syria was another evil dictatorship that lost.
So, there is no democracy in the USA (and even less in the EU).
We do have a democracy, but you need to view several news sources to understand the truth. But voting in the US generally just wants to replace the idiots in power with new idiots.
The USA committed a lot of invasions. They just didn't want to take responsibility and preferred raids, not proper conquest.
True.
Even with your "narrow" definition, Germany invaded and still keep DDR. England invaded and still keep Falklands. NATO invaded Serbia and still have the base in Kosovo. But, actually, people prefer the wider meanings of the term - like, you know, Invasion is when you use military force against other countries.
Germany didn't invade East Germany, after the collapse of the USSR, it was reunified. Falklands were British until invaded by Argentina, and retaken by Britain. Serbia is still Serbia, NATO doesn't capture territory, it protects territory from invasion.
"German reunification in 1990 was the process that re-established Germany as a single sovereign state after the division into East and West Germany since 1949. It officially occurred on October 3, 1990, following the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and the signing of the Unification Treaty, which facilitated the integration of East Germany into the Federal Republic of Germany."
Actually, in all political systems minority rules and in most political systems this minority cares about the will of majority. Any man has as much power over you as you give him.
Exactly, billionaires buy politicians and news sources.
Any economic or political system exists only because they have Army and Police.
"Capitalism" doesn't kill people.
Is it why the borders are closed and male Ukrainians can't leave Ukraine ? Is it why most of them can't freely use the language they prefer? Is that why all opposition is oppressed and death squads kill people without judge decision and "president" office take property of other people by its own decision?
Ukraine needs everyone to defend against Russia's invasion.
In practical terms it means that any ceasefire that won't include equal rights to Russian speakers will immediately cause "violent riots" (or "just rebellions") in, say, Odessa and Kharkov. If Kievan regime try to supress them by military force - Russian Federation will be involved (with or without Putin's order). If Putin sides with anti-Russians, and try to stop Russian help to Russian people, ok, he'll be killed by Russian people and the next president will destroy Kievan regime.
I understand the pretext Putin used to justify his invasion. Getting ethnic Russians to protest against the Ukrainian government then when the government responds Russia claims "mass murder, ethnic cleansing, genocide, etc." and that justifies the invasion, plus taking Ukraine back gives Putin more territory.
Russians are human beings. Russians are fighting for their rights. You attack one of us, you attack all of us. You ban Russian language - Russian protest against it (peacefully or violently). You use military force against them - they use military force against you. If Putin (or anybody else) don't want to defend Russians - he cease being Russian president.
Russians are in Russia, Ukrainians are in Ukraine. There is no justification for Russia's invasion.
Big amount of ethnicities isn't bad by itself. When the government protect all of them, if there is no really significant discrimination and attempts of genocide - people prefer live in peace.
True, here in the US we call it a "melting pot", where DNA mixes freely.
First, we'll eliminate NATO's (first of all, American) nuclear weapons and suggest new (worse for you) peace term. If you reject our quite moderate and reasonable peace terms (you don't retaliate, you return us Alaska and California, but the USA still exists as an independent power) and launch counter-value strike, we'll bomb you with nukes, chemical, biological weapons and autonomous robot systems until your unconditional surrender or total annihilation.
Don't make me laugh. Zelenskiy isn't the only comedian I see.
All boundaries are limited. More pressure - lesser boundaries.
In the case of a nation whose enemies' avowed objective is nothing short of physical annihilation, there is no defensive that can be called extreme. And, of course, there is no boundaries when you are fighting for your very physical survival.
The more aggressive Russia gets against NATO, the more severe the sanctions get against Russia. NATO would never attack Russia, an offensive first strike is simply not allowed. NATO is a defensive alliance.
In practical terms they are all the same. They both understand only the language of force.
True. Military power is a necessary influence to ensure compliance. Its better than constant wars all over the planet.
No. It was system of collective defense (including UN) that was keeping the peace.
The UN has no "collective defense".
China has pretty good reasons to want it, haven't they? I mean, the suggested world system, in which China and India provide cheap labour force, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Latin America provide cheap resources, Europe and America military and politically suppress them all, but morally degrade and invite the tons of foreigners - it doesn't seem satisfactory for most of people (including ordinary people of America and Europe, who are losing their jobs, who are losing their land, who are losing their moral laws and who are forced to fight and die in the absolutely unnecessary for them wars).
NATO countries do not suppress China, quite the contrary.
We turned China from a very poor country into an economic power, 2nd only to the US.
Yes China is leveraging their new wealth into buying strategic assets.
Will China eventually use its military power to invade somewhere? Like Taiwan? I hope not.
 
There was never mass murder of Russians in Ukraine, but there were Russian proxies killing Ukrainians during the Maidan Revolt
Plain lie. Read something about Odessa Massacre and Terror in Kharkov.

China ships fentanyl to drug cartels in Mexico, and they distribute it throughout the US. Trump needs to use the military.
Yes, he needs use military and police. But he donn't. He (as well as all other presidents) is quite cooperative with those poisoners. And no, fentanyl isn't the only problem. And cooperation with poisoners makes him (as well as any other president) - a criminal.

True. Kennedy was killed by the military, Trump was shot at by the "deep state", Killary found out when Vince Foster committed suicide with the wrong hand.
Yep. Those are not ways of democracy (according your own definition), ergo, the USA is not a democracy.

Its practical application is quite simple. The new generation of antineutrino detectors allow to make reasonable size and price detectors to detect any nuclear reactor (including submarine's nuclear reactor) and you can't hide it by any material mean. You still want to hide your strategic submarines to avoid their elimination by the first Russian/Chinese strike? Try to make them non-nuclear. Colombia-class became obsolete before it even being developed.

Trump destroyed ISIS.
Russia destroyed ISIS.

Syria was another evil dictatorship that lost.
Just another victim of illegal and unprovoked American aggression.

We do have a democracy, but you need to view several news sources to understand the truth.
You don't have democracy, and all you "sources" (as we can see even in this thread) lie to you. Doesn't matter how many barrels of shit have you ate - it's still shit.

But voting in the US generally just wants to replace the idiots in power with new idiots.
Many people believe that the real power in the USA are money. And you don't vore for who'll have money.
True.

Germany didn't invade East Germany, after the collapse of the USSR, it was reunified.
Same way with Ukraine. Russia is reunifing Ukraine.

Falklands were British until invaded by Argentina, and retaken by Britain.
Ukraine was Russian until illegal Banderlog coup and Russia is still retaking it.

Serbia is still Serbia, NATO doesn't capture territory, it protects territory from invasion.
NATO captured territory of Kosovo and Metohia.

"German reunification in 1990 was the process that re-established Germany as a single sovereign state after the division into East and West Germany since 1949. It officially occurred on October 3, 1990, following the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and the signing of the Unification Treaty, which facilitated the integration of East Germany into the Federal Republic of Germany."
And SMO is the process of reunification of Russia.

Exactly, billionaires buy politicians and news sources.
So, one more evidence that the USA is not a democracy. It is a criminal oligarchy.

"Capitalism" doesn't kill people.
People kill people. And people of Capitalistic states killed more people than people in Socialistic states.

Ukraine needs everyone to defend against Russia's invasion.
No. In fact, Ukraine needs to reunion with Russia. You just hired local criminals to kill as much Russians and Ukrainians as positive (without hope to achieve any meaningful result).

I understand the pretext Putin used to justify his invasion. Getting ethnic Russians to protest against the Ukrainian government then when the government responds Russia claims "mass murder, ethnic cleansing, genocide, etc." and that justifies the invasion, plus taking Ukraine back gives Putin more territory.
Its not pretext. You attack one of us, you attack all of us.

Russians are in Russia, Ukrainians are in Ukraine.
And Dakota people live in North and South Dakota states, and all who live in those states are Dacota people, right? And there are no Dacota people living outside Dacota states, right? And, of course, there are no Russians, living in America.

We both know that this is a lie.

And no, even if we use your logic - in DPR live Donchane, and in LPR - Luganchane, and Ukrainians attacked them.

There is no justification for Russia's invasion.
Of course there is. As I told - it is collective self-defense.

True, here in the US we call it a "melting pot", where DNA mixes freely.
It's not about DNA, its more about human rights and mutual safety. If WASPs don't kill Russians in New-York - Russians don't kill WASPs. Those who discriminate and kill people for their genetic, culture and language - are Nazies.

The more aggressive Russia gets against NATO, the more severe the sanctions get against Russia.
Trade is not charity. More troubles you try to cause in Russia - more troubles you create for yourself.

NATO would never attack Russia, an offensive first strike is simply not allowed. NATO is a defensive alliance.
Plain lie. NATO is anything but "defensive".

The UN has no "collective defense".
Read Article 51 of UN Charter

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Charter of the United Nations​


Chapter VII — Action with respect to Threats to the Peace, Breaches of the Peace, and Acts of Aggression​


Article 51​


“Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.”

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NATO countries do not suppress China, quite the contrary.
We turned China from a very poor country into an economic power, 2nd only to the US.
Ever read anything about, say, Opium wars?

Yes China is leveraging their new wealth into buying strategic assets.
Will China eventually use its military power to invade somewhere? Like Taiwan? I hope not.
Taiwan is a part of China. You can't "invade" your own province.
 
Plain lie. Read something about Odessa Massacre and Terror in Kharkov.
I read about them. When you riot against the government they respond. No riots means on one gets hurt.
Yes, he needs use military and police. But he don't. He (as well as all other presidents) is quite cooperative with those poisoners. And no, fentanyl isn't the only problem. And cooperation with poisoners makes him (as well as any other president) - a criminal.
Mexico enables the drug cartels, Mexico is a Narco-State. Its a complex problem. From my perspective if no one bought drugs no one would sell drugs.
Yep. Those are not ways of democracy (according your own definition), ergo, the USA is not a democracy.
Assassinations have always part of political power, ask Putin.
Its practical application is quite simple. The new generation of antineutrino detectors allow to make reasonable size and price detectors to detect any nuclear reactor (including submarine's nuclear reactor) and you can't hide it by any material mean. You still want to hide your strategic submarines to avoid their elimination by the first Russian/Chinese strike? Try to make them non-nuclear. Colombia-class became obsolete before it even being developed.
The ocean are very big, those anti-neutrino detectors obviously have limited range, subs travel very fast, the Navy will figure out how to avoid being detected. Very fancy detector!
Just another victim of illegal and unprovoked American aggression.
Syria is better today than it was under the Assads.
You don't have democracy, and all your "sources" (as we can see even in this thread) lie to you. Doesn't matter how many barrels of shit have you ate - it's still shit.
I have at least 50 places to read news and political opinion. There is a new tool that shows if they are left/right leaning. Democracy means voters can see the news presentation they agree with. Ones that said Biden was mentally competent are shit, ones that said he is mentally incompetent are truthful..
Many people believe that the real power in the USA are money. And you don't vote for who'll have money.
True.
Same way with Ukraine. Russia is reunifying Ukraine. Ukraine was Russian until illegal Banderlog coup and Russia is still retaking it.
Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia, East Germany did want reunification..
NATO captured territory of Kosovo and Metohia.
NATO peacekeepers are trying to keep the peace, not capture territory. Same as they could do in Ukraine.
So, one more evidence that the USA is not a democracy. It is a criminal oligarchy.
Oligarchs can try to buy votes and politicians, but if you look at the US political record, control switches between Dems and the GOP very regularly. One party rule by an evil dictator is Putin in Russia, he can never be voted out.
People kill people. And people of Capitalistic states killed more people than people in Socialistic states.
Pol Pot killed millions in Cambodia. Stalin killed millions...
Its not pretext. You attack one of us, you attack all of us.
And Dakota people live in North and South Dakota states, and all who live in those states are Dakota people, right? And there are no Dakota people living outside Dakota states, right? And, of course, there are no Russians, living in America.
Dakotas are states, Ukraine is an independent country. You cannot justify an invasion because you say ethnic Russians are being mistreated in Ukraine. You are conflating citizenship with ethnicity. There are Russians living in New York City.
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It's not about DNA, its more about human rights and mutual safety. If WASPs don't kill Russians in New-York - Russians don't kill WASPs. Those who discriminate and kill people for their genetic, culture and language - are Nazies.
Apparently we renamed Nazis "white supremacists".
Trade is not charity. More troubles you try to cause in Russia - more troubles you create for yourself.
We'll see how it all plays out.
Plain lie. NATO is anything but "defensive".
NATO would NEVER attack Russia. NATO is a defensive alliance.

Charter of the United Nations - Article 51

The UN condemns Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Taiwan is a part of China. You can't "invade" your own province.
Many nations still consider Taiwan as an independent country. It was a UN member until China replaced it in 1971.
China can invade, but Taiwan is well defended. Just another WW3 flash point.
 
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China can invade,
commie han-China will invade (take back) Outer Manchuria instead of Formosa , commie Hans know the drill ;)


 
I read about them. When you riot against the government they respond. No riots means on one gets hurt.
If people riot against evil, discriminative and abusing government - it is their right and duty. And if your junta is supressing those protests by mass murders and burning people alive - it just add illegimacy to your rule.

Mexico enables the drug cartels, Mexico is a Narco-State. Its a complex problem. From my perspective if no one bought drugs no one would sell drugs.
No sane people need opium or opioids. It is a classic "commodity with the artificially created demand". Did you read about Opium Wars, as I recommended you? Your government protect drug-dealers in the USA and abroad. It basically means that your government is criminal.

Assassinations have always part of political power, ask Putin.
So, according your definition, there are no "democracies" in the world.

The ocean are very big, those anti-neutrino detectors obviously have limited range, subs travel very fast, the Navy will figure out how to avoid being detected. Very fancy detector!
You know, SSBN is a very valuable target. More than hundred warheads 100 kt each might cause really significant damage if the launch is allowed. And China or Russia are investing significant money in their detection (for their elimination in the first strike). And it's not just valuable, it is pretty weak. Stealthiness was their only defence. You know, more than hundred eggs, all in one basket (with only two baskets in Atlantic), shining as Christmas Tree in anti-neutrino spectrum. You know, its quite a temptation even without any pressure. It needs very need pressure to make this temptation unstoppable.
Oreshnik demonstrated how really precise are Russian warheads (and it made silo-based Minutemen and Sentinel missiles obsolete), new detectors made you nuclear SSBNs obsolete. Bombers don't play airborne alert with actual nukes and all that shit. You know, it seems as America is lying on her back with her legs wide spread, moaning some passionate nonsense about "western barbarians" and "illegitimate invasion", teasing her clit and lubing her little shitter. Many people read it as "f#ck me" behaviour.

Syria is better today than it was under the Assads.
Of course no. It became a terroristic nest and millions of people died and were forced to leave their country.
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The President of the United States, shaking his hands with US-wanted terrorist and losing the opportunity to earn $10 million. What a shame!
Continuing our fantasies - it's like crying "I'm everyones ***** and a cheap whore" right out of the international scene.

I have at least 50 places to read news and political opinion. There is a new tool that shows if they are left/right leaning. Democracy means voters can see the news presentation they agree with. Ones that said Biden was mentally competent are shit, ones that said he is mentally incompetent are truthful..
And no one said you that both Trump and Biden are nothing but talking heads of the oligarchy.


Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia, East Germany did want reunification..
Plain lie.
There were referendums in the former Ukrainain regions and there were no referendum in DDR.

NATO peacekeepers are trying to keep the peace, not capture territory.
Plain lie. They take territory and they use the territory.

Same as they could do in Ukraine.
Well, they can try. We'll kill them all (and not only them, of course).

Oligarchs can try to buy votes and politicians, but if you look at the US political record, control switches between Dems and the GOP very regularly.
Switching between Pepsi and Coca isn't real switching. Actually, it doesn't even seems as rebranding.

One party rule by an evil dictator is Putin in Russia, he can never be voted out.
He can be voted out, or asked to leave his office (as it was with Eltsin) or he can be killed if really necessary.

Pol Pot killed millions in Cambodia. Stalin killed millions...
Churchill killed millions in India, America killed many millions in other countries. Vivere militare est. Life is fighting.

Dakotas are states, Ukraine is an independent country.
So what? Geography is one thing, and actual ethnicity is another. And yes, are there Russians or Italians in America?

You cannot justify an invasion because you say ethnic Russians are being mistreated in Ukraine.
Yes we can, and, de facto, we do. It's not even justification, it is simple constatation of fact - if you mistreat people in you country you are asking for problems. It makes your government illegimate.

You are conflating citizenship with ethnicity.
De jury, people in DPR and LPR were not Ukrainians in the terms of citizenship. They were Donchan's and Luganchan's.

And I can predict, if you mistreat them (for being Russians), abuse and attack them they will fight back. And other Russians (including those who live in other countries) will support them (one way or another). If you want peace - you'd better avoid discrimination and ethnic based attacks.

Apparently we renamed Nazis "white supremacists".

In the Russian understanding "white suprematists" are only a part of Nazies. Actually, talking about Ukraine, "white suprematists" are "Nazies type III".
We'll see how it all plays out.

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You know, something like this:


NATO would NEVER attack Russia. NATO is a defensive alliance.
Plain lie. NATO is already attacking Russia by hiring Ukrainians.

The UN condemns Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Nobody cares.

Many nations still consider Taiwan as an independent country.
No. Even Taiwan itself doesn't consider themselves as "independent nation", not officially. Officially Republic of China (Taiwnan) pretends to control the whole China - both the island and continental part.

It was a UN member until China replaced it in 1971.
"Independent Taiwan" never was a member of UN. "Republic of China" was. And it was just changed by People's Republic of China.

China can invade, but Taiwan is well defended. Just another WW3 flash point.
Really? If Taiwanese face the choice between "Hong Kong scenario" and "Ukrainian scenario", we all know what they'll choose. Actually, right now, pro-Continental parties has majority in the Parliament and they will sabotage all attempts "to provoke Beijing".
 
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If people riot against evil, discriminating and abusing government - it is their right and duty. And if your junta is suppressing those protests by mass murders and burning people alive - it just adds illegitimacy to your rule.
Your post also describes the Maidan Revolt against the pro-Russian government:
"The Revolution of Dignity, also known as the Maidan Revolution or the Ukrainian Revolution, took place in Ukraine in February 2014 at the end of the Euromaidan protests, when deadly clashes between protesters and state forces in the capital Kyiv culminated in the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych, the return to the 2004 Constitution of Ukraine, and the outbreak of the 2014 Russo-Ukrainian War. In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests known as "Euromaidan" began in response to President Yanukovych's decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union, instead choosing closer ties to Russia."
No sane people need opium or opioids. It is a classic "commodity with the artificially created demand". Did you read about Opium Wars, as I recommended you? Your government protect drug-dealers in the USA and abroad. It basically means that your government is criminal.
Yes, I read the wiki version of Opium wars.
"The Opium Wars were two conflicts waged between China and Western powers during the mid-19th century. The First Opium War was fought from 1839 to 1842 between China and Britain. It was triggered by the Chinese government's campaign to enforce its prohibition of opium, which included destroying opium stocks owned by British merchants and the British East India Company"
So, according your definition, there are no "democracies" in the world.
Democracies exist in spite of assassinations.
You know, SSBN is a very valuable target. More than hundred warheads 100 kt each might cause really significant damage if the launch is allowed. And China or Russia are investing significant money in their detection (for their elimination in the first strike). And it's not just valuable, it is pretty weak. Stealthiness was their only defence. You know, more than hundred eggs, all in one basket (with only two baskets in Atlantic), shining as Christmas Tree in anti-neutrino spectrum. You know, its quite a temptation even without any pressure. It needs very need pressure to make this temptation unstoppable.
Oreshnik demonstrated how really precise are Russian warheads (and it made silo-based Minutemen and Sentinel missiles obsolete), new detectors made you nuclear SSBNs obsolete. Bombers don't play airborne alert with actual nukes and all that shit. You know, it seems as America is lying on her back with her legs wide spread, moaning some passionate nonsense about "western barbarians" and "illegitimate invasion", teasing her clit and lubing her little shitter. Many people read it as "f#ck me" behaviour.
Radio waves travel faster much than Oreshniks giving plenty of time to launch. Don't be stupid, there is no way to stop MAD.
The President of the United States, shaking his hands with US-wanted terrorist and losing the opportunity to earn $10 million. What a shame!
Continuing our fantasies - it's like crying "I'm everyone's ***** and a cheap whore" right out of the international scene.
Russia supported Assad. Trump is giving Syria a chance.
And no one told you that both Trump and Biden are nothing but talking heads of the oligarchy.
Biden is an idiot. Trump is an egotistical billionaire narcissist, but Trump calls reporters who lie "liars" and makes fools of them.
Switching between Pepsi and Coca isn't real switching. Actually, it doesn't even seems as rebranding.
Democrats and Republicans are VERY different. In Russia all you have is what Putin says.
He can be voted out, or asked to leave his office (as it was with Eltsin) or he can be killed if really necessary.
Ask "the Chef" or Navalny what happens if you oppose Putin.
De jury, people in DPR and LPR were not Ukrainians in the terms of citizenship. They were Donchan's and Luganchan's.
They lived within the border of Ukraine, they are/were Ukrainian.
And I can predict, if you mistreat them (for being Russians), abuse and attack them they will fight back. And other Russians (including those who live in other countries) will support them (one way or another). If you want peace - you'd better avoid discrimination and ethnic based attacks.
If Russians act up in the US they will be put on planes and sent back to Russia, called "deported".
Plain lie. NATO is already attacking Russia by hiring Ukrainians.
NATO is not hiring Ukrainians, they are helping Ukrainians defend their country from an illegal invasion by Russia.
Nobody cares.
Most of the world cares. Russia's invasion is doomed to fail.
Even Taiwan itself doesn't consider themselves as "independent nation", not officially. Officially Republic of China (Taiwnan) pretends to control the whole China - both the island and continental part. "Independent Taiwan" never was a member of UN. "Republic of China" was. And it was just changed by People's Republic of China. Really? If Taiwanese face the choice between "Hong Kong scenario" and "Ukrainian scenario", we all know what they'll choose. Actually, right now, pro-Continental parties has majority in the Parliament and they will sabotage all attempts "to provoke Beijing".
Taiwan is a separate problem. Will China wait until 2040, or invade sooner than that?
 
Your post also describes the Maidan Revolt against the pro-Russian government:
"The Revolution of Dignity, also known as the Maidan Revolution or the Ukrainian Revolution, took place in Ukraine in February 2014 at the end of the Euromaidan protests, when deadly clashes between protesters and state forces in the capital Kyiv culminated in the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych, the return to the 2004 Constitution of Ukraine, and the outbreak of the 2014 Russo-Ukrainian War. In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests known as "Euromaidan" began in response to President Yanukovych's decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union, instead choosing closer ties to Russia."
Yes, of course. "Ukrainian activists" aka Banderlogs have all reasons to believe, that more or less equal rights given for Russian and Ukrainian languages leads to dissolve and elimination of Ukrainian "language" (artificial dialect, in fact). 95% of citizens of Ukraine don't need Ukrainian language at all. (Something like what happened in Belarus, where everyone now speak proper Russian). Back in 2014, 95% of fiction books published in Ukraine were written in proper Russian (influenced by English, of course), not in "Ukrainian". More than 85% of TV-content were made in Russian. In the age of books, newspapers, radio, TV and internet you can save small local dialects only by force and terror.

Those freaks are absolute minority, but they are funded, armed and supported by Europe and America. Thats the only reason why they are still exists.

And yes, those freaks, if they really believe that Ukraine matters - they have right and duty to fight regime they don't like. And the regime have right and duty to fight them.

And Russian people have right and duty to defend their rights and their freedom.

Yes, I read the wiki version of Opium wars.
"The Opium Wars were two conflicts waged between China and Western powers during the mid-19th century. The First Opium War was fought from 1839 to 1842 between China and Britain. It was triggered by the Chinese government's campaign to enforce its prohibition of opium, which included destroying opium stocks owned by British merchants and the British East India Company"
Yep. British poisoners forced Chinamen to buy opium. More or less the same way modern Chinamen and Mexicans force Americans to buy fentanyl. I mean, if Trump (or anyone else) try to really eliminate drug-dealers, he'll likely, face the risk of war and "international invasion". That's why Washington prefer to collaborate with the poisoners.

Democracies exist in spite of assassinations.
If political assassinations doesn't make the difference between "democracies" and "tyrannies", what does? The stupid show about choice without real choice?

Radio waves travel faster much than Oreshniks giving plenty of time to launch. Don't be stupid, there is no way to stop MAD.
Not plenty. You need at least 7 minutes for proper launch under attack procedure, plus time to detect launch, plus time for missiles to actually start. 90 secunds for Minutemen III and at least fifteen minutes for Tridents III.

What is even more important - putting your nuclear forces on the "hair trigger alert" adds additional and really significant risks. Those risks are acceptable only if you really ready to fight a nuclear war for Ukraine, Poland or Estonia (little hint - you are not).

Russia supported Assad. Trump is giving Syria a chance.
It absolutely doesn't matter to the question of legimacy of your force usage. You may be a good man, or a bad man, but I have no right of breaking and entering in your house.

Biden is an idiot. Trump is an egotistical billionaire narcissist, but Trump calls reporters who lie "liars" and makes fools of them.
Doesn't really matter. Words are cheap.

Democrats and Republicans are VERY different.
Less different than Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola.

In Russia all you have is what Putin says.
Putin is not a Dark Lord, controlling everything and everyone with his dark magic. And in practical terms ordinary Russian have more freedoms than an ordinary American. Which, of course, includes wider spectrum of political ideas allowed in public discussions.

Ask "the Chef" or Navalny what happens if you oppose Putin.
Ask Eltsin, Gorbachev, Khrushchev, Nikolai II and a lot of other guys what happens when you oppose Russian people.

They lived within the border of Ukraine, they are/were Ukrainian.
And Albanians in Kosovo are Serbs, and illegal Mexican migrants are American citizens, aren't they? Citizenship is a bit different thing. People of DPR and LPR didn't have Ukrainian citizenship.

If Russians act up in the US they will be put on planes and sent back to Russia, called "deported".
May be. When people face vital threats and discrimination they fave choice: "flee or fight". May be, and quite likely, they'd choose "flee" (like my cousin from Kherson had choosen emigration in Israel back in 2015). May be, and we can't rule it out (especially if we are talking about more numerous groups) - they'll fight back. And, quite possible, this America's Liberation Army will be supported by foreign countries.

NATO is not hiring Ukrainians, they are helping Ukrainians defend their country from an illegal invasion by Russia.
Stupid rhetoric. Because of this "help" Ukraine already lost Crimea, Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye, hundreds of thousands lost their lives and millions lost their homes. Not much of help, isn't it? Either Western leaders are imbeciles, who can't calculate consequences of their actions (this opinion is very popular, but I don't like it, I believe Europeans and Americans are human beings just like Russians), either "defending Ukraine and Ukrainians" never was their intention (I prefer this opinion because we can make deals with villains, but not with imbeciles).
Most of the world cares. Russia's invasion is doomed to fail.
Wishful-thinking, nothing more.

Taiwan is a separate problem. Will China wait until 2040, or invade sooner than that?
My Chinese is even worse than my English, so my personal opinion is not really valuable. But I think its more likely that China will rejoin Taiwan mostly peacefully - by combination of coerction, economic pressure and some kind of KMT-lead coup.
 
Yes, of course. "Ukrainian activists" aka Banderlogs have all reasons to believe, that more or less equal rights given for Russian and Ukrainian languages leads to dissolve and elimination of Ukrainian "language" (artificial dialect, in fact). 95% of citizens of Ukraine don't need Ukrainian language at all. (Something like what happened in Belarus, where everyone now speak proper Russian). Back in 2014, 95% of fiction books published in Ukraine were written in proper Russian (influenced by English, of course), not in "Ukrainian". More than 85% of TV-content were made in Russian. In the age of books, newspapers, radio, TV and internet you can save small local dialects only by force and terror.
Those freaks are absolute minority, but they are funded, armed and supported by Europe and America. Thats the only reason why they still exist.
And yes, those freaks, if they really believe that Ukraine matters - they have right and duty to fight regime they don't like. And the regime have right and duty to fight them. And Russian people have right and duty to defend their rights and their freedom.
We've beat this horse pretty well to death. A mixed ethnic population will lead to violence when one ethnic group tries to dominate other ethnic groups, like in Yugoslavia, unless there is brutal but fair dictator like Tito to keep all parties from shooting each other. In Ukraine, the Russian ethnic group was helped by Putin and his FSB to agitate for reunification with Russia instead of joining NATO and the EU. Which led to the current war to keep Ukraine independent instead of under Putin's thumb.
Yep. British poisoners forced Chinamen to buy opium. More or less the same way modern Chinamen and Mexicans force Americans to buy fentanyl. I mean, if Trump (or anyone else) try to really eliminate drug-dealers, he'll likely, face the risk of war and "international invasion". That's why Washington prefer to collaborate with the poisoners.
Drug cartels aren't that powerful. Trump and the US military will either eliminate them or make them a lot smaller. Trump is using tariffs as a "carrot" to get China to stop sending fentanyl. Tariffs are worth a lot more.
If political assassinations don't make a difference between "democracies" and "tyrannies", what does? The stupid show about choice without real choice?
Democracies have several steps. Primaries in each party sort through the many candidates by voting in every state on different days to see who emerges as their candidate. Then in the general election the republican and democrat run to see who wins, after several face-to-face debates where they argue about who has the better policies. Their policies are not Coke v Pepsi, they are totally opposite. Assassinations may remove one guy, but not his policies.
Not plenty of time. You need at least 7 minutes for proper launch under attack procedure, plus time to detect launch, plus time for missiles to actually start. 90 seconds for Minutemen III and at least fifteen minutes for Tridents III.
What is even more important - putting your nuclear forces on the "hair trigger alert" adds additional and really significant risks. Those risks are acceptable only if you really ready to fight a nuclear war for Ukraine, Poland or Estonia (little hint - you are not).
More money wasted for an ongoing arms race. I'm sure both sides will "thrust and parry" while avoiding WW3.
It absolutely doesn't matter to the question of legitimacy of your force usage. You may be a good man, or a bad man, but I have no right of breaking and entering in your house.
Whose house is it? That is the crucial question?
Putin is not a Dark Lord, controlling everything and everyone with his dark magic. And in practical terms ordinary Russian have more freedoms than an ordinary American. Which, of course, includes wider spectrum of political ideas allowed in public discussions.
Navalny says otherwise.
Ask Eltsin, Gorbachev, Khrushchev, Nikolai II and a lot of other guys what happens when you oppose Russian people.
Yeltsin appointed Putin, then Putin became acting president, then he got elected, then elections always became rigged in his favor even though he can't serve more than two terms. Russia did not enforce their Constitution the way we do.
And Albanians in Kosovo are Serbs, and illegal Mexican migrants are American citizens, aren't they? Citizenship is a bit different thing. People of DPR and LPR didn't have Ukrainian citizenship.
Being in a country illegally gets you deported. You say people of DPR and LPR didn't have Ukrainian citizenship, Kiev says otherwise.
May be. When people face vital threats and discrimination they fave choice: "flee or fight". May be, and quite likely, they'd choose "flee" (like my cousin from Kherson had chosen emigration in Israel back in 2015). May be, and we can't rule it out (especially if we are talking about more numerous groups) - they'll fight back. And, quite possible, this America's Liberation Army will be supported by foreign countries.
Russians in the US are either here temporarily and legally with a visa, or they are Americans who are ethnic Russians. If Russians or any ethnic group, like pro-Palestinian groups, act up they will be arrested, and if illegal they will be deported. Most tiny ethnic groups know that the police do not allow any violence.
Because of this "help" Ukraine already lost Crimea, Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye, hundreds of thousands lost their lives and millions lost their homes. Not much of help, isn't it? Either Western leaders are imbeciles, who can't calculate consequences of their actions (this opinion is very popular, but I don't like it, I believe Europeans and Americans are human beings just like Russians), either "defending Ukraine and Ukrainians" never was their intention (I prefer this opinion because we can make deals with villains, but not with imbeciles).
About 1,000 prisoners were exchanged this weekend. I hope they don't have to go back to the front lines.
Ukraine is fighting for their independence from Russia, and Russia is fighting to keep Ukraine in their "sphere of influence". I keep wondering if Trump will "invade" Panama, Cuba, and Greenland to put them in the US "sphere of influence", knowing that no other country would dare take on the US military. Does "might make right"? Is military power the ultimate arbiter of right and wrong?
 
We've beat this horse pretty well to death. A mixed ethnic population will lead to violence when one ethnic group tries to dominate other ethnic groups, like in Yugoslavia, unless there is brutal but fair dictator like Tito to keep all parties from shooting each other.
There are a lot of examples of different approaches, like in the USA, in Belarus, in Russia, China, Belgium and many other places. The basic rules - live and allow live other people. Don't annoy them, don't take their rights without really good reasons. Don't kill them even if you don't like their language, music or religion. Don't steal their property without court decision. Those rules are simple, but following them usually allow to keep peace, and violation of them, usually leads into a civil war.

In Ukraine, the Russian ethnic group was helped by Putin and his FSB to agitate for reunification with Russia instead of joining NATO and the EU.
Actually, the best agitation against NATO and EU was made by Baltic states, that took away citizenship and civil rights from ethnic Russians, by EU who told that Ukrainian industry should be destroyed and industrial south-east should be turned into another "rusted belt". And, of course, most of all, it was propaganded by the new Kievan Junta, who's first law was the ban of any official usage of Russian language and who allowed murders of every "suspected Russian agent".

As I said earlier - start discrimination and terror against Black people, Catholics, French-speakers, whoever else and there will be need in any "Russian propaganda" to start a civil war.
And vice versa - if the life in the USA is beautiful, and there is no discrimination and terror - all Russian/Chinese/Latinoamerican propaganda won't raise, say, New Yorkers to fight against Washington.
We are not magicians, we can't force people act against their will and against their interests.

Which led to the current war to keep Ukraine independent instead of under Putin's thumb.
Nobody talks about "independence" of Ukraine. Some people want it dependent from Brussel (and killing/discriminating Russians) other want it dependent from Moscow (and not killing/discriminating Russians).

Drug cartels aren't that powerful.
If not backed by China and Russia. And they are backed.

Trump and the US military will either eliminate them or make them a lot smaller.
Really? If he can do it, why he doesn't do it?

Trump is using tariffs as a "carrot" to get China to stop sending fentanyl. Tariffs are worth a lot more.
It's not about money for China. Ok. Not only about money. It's more about killing "British and American scum". Some kind of vengeance and retaliation. Even a sort of justice may be.

Democracies have several steps. Primaries in each party sort through the many candidates by voting in every state on different days to see who emerges as their candidate. Then in the general election the republican and democrat run to see who wins, after several face-to-face debates where they argue about who has the better policies. Their policies are not Coke v Pepsi, they are totally opposite.
As for me, I don't see any practical difference.

Assassinations may remove one guy, but not his policies.
Actually, even elections don't change your policy.

More money wasted for an ongoing arms race. I'm sure both sides will "thrust and parry" while avoiding WW3.
And who said, that the sides want to avoid WWIII?

Whose house is it? That is the crucial question?
It is your house, in our example. You can be a good guy, you can be a bad guy, but I have no right to come in your house and change there something I want (or, say, stealing your money you keep there).

Navalny says otherwise.
Navalny is dead. And he is dead exactly because he was stupid

Yeltsin appointed Putin, then Putin became acting president, then he got elected, then elections always became rigged in his favor even though he can't serve more than two terms. Russia did not enforce their Constitution the way we do.

Yeltsin appointed Putin and left his chair exactly because he became really unpopular (both among elited and ordinary people). And he became unpopular because he made some pretty bad decisions.
Being in a country illegally gets you deported.
Really? Only if the government have enough firepower to remove them.

You say people of DPR and LPR didn't have Ukrainian citizenship, Kiev says otherwise.
Doesn't matter what Kiev says. Kievan regime see people as cattle and their property, they don't care about their will. That's the root of the problem. People of Donbass left their Ukrainian citizenship and earned their own, DPR and LPR citizenship.

Russians in the US are either here temporarily and legally with a visa, or they are Americans who are ethnic Russians.
That's why your conception "they live on this territory and it means that they have this citizenship" is wrong. A person can live in the USA and don't posses American citizenship. People of Taiwan live on Chinese territory but they don't possess citizenship of PRC.

If Russians or any ethnic group, like pro-Palestinian groups, act up they will be arrested, and if illegal they will be deported. Most tiny ethnic groups know that the police do not allow any violence.

Russians (and other ethnic group) know that policemen are human beings. They won't neither arrest, nor deport you if they are killed. And, of course, police can join the Rebels, too.
About 1,000 prisoners were exchanged this weekend. I hope they don't have to go back to the front lines.
Ukraine is fighting for their independence from Russia, and Russia is fighting to keep Ukraine in their "sphere of influence".
No. NATO and Russia are fighting over Ukraine to use it, in nearest future as a stepping stone to attack Russia/Europe.

I keep wondering if Trump will "invade" Panama, Cuba, and Greenland to put them in the US "sphere of influence", knowing that no other country would dare take on the US military.
I doubt that he'll de it without really serious provocation (like, say, sending Russian strategic bombers in Cuba).

Does "might make right"? Is military power the ultimate arbiter of right and wrong?
Yep. After American illegal and unprovoked aggressions against Serbia, Iraq and Syria, yes, there is only one law in those jungles. "Might is right". Sad, but true. You made it. You destroyed post-WWII world order and turned it in pre-WWIII. But there is one positive thing about it - there will be new, may be better, world order after WWIII.
 
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Actually, the best agitation against NATO and EU was made by Baltic states, that took away citizenship and civil rights from ethnic Russians, by EU who said that Ukrainian industry should be destroyed and industrial south-east should be turned into another "rust belt". And, of course, most of all, it was propaganda by the new Kiev Junta, who's first law was the ban of any official usage of Russian language and who allowed murders of every "suspected Russian agent".
There was no "purge" of Russian speakers in Ukraine that I saw. Only the quelling of riots by Russian agitators after the Maidan Revolution where the majority said "we don't want to be Russian".
And vice versa - if life in the USA is beautiful, and there is no discrimination and terror - all Russian/Chinese/Latin-American propaganda won't raise, say, New Yorkers to fight Washington. We are not magicians, we can't force people act against their will and against their interests.
No one "group" in the US would take up arms against Washington, especially New Yorkers, they aren't allowed to have guns in NY. We realize that whatever politicians do can be undone after the next election.
Nobody talks about "independence" of Ukraine. Some people want it dependent on Brussels (and killing/discriminating Russians) others want it dependent on Moscow (and not killing/discriminating Russians).
We disagree on what an independent Ukraine looks like.
If not backed by China and Russia. And they are backed. If Trump can eliminate the drug cartels, why he doesn't do it?
He will, but Mexico protects them, so it needs to be done carefully.
It's not about money for China. Ok. Not only about money. It's more about killing "British and American scum". Some kind of vengeance and retaliation. Even a sort of justice may be.
So you say. But what is really happening is that the fentanyl is killing off the low-IQ bums that drag society down sucking resources from the budget.
And who said, that the sides want to avoid WWIII?
Because WW3 hasn't happened yet.
It is your house, in our example. You can be a good guy, you can be a bad guy, but I have no right to come in your house and change something I want (or, say, stealing your money you keep there).
Correct, it is the people's house, the majority of the people's house. Minorities need to tread lightly.
Navalny is dead. And he is dead exactly because he was stupid
He was noble. An idealist who thought he could take on Putin politically, like in a civilized society. He found out the hard way what a brutal dictator does to political opposition.
Really? Only if the government have enough firepower to remove them.
The US government has more than enough firepower to remove/deport anyone, a fact.
That's why your conception "they live on this territory and it means that they have this citizenship" is wrong. A person can live in the USA and don't posses American citizenship. People of Taiwan live on Chinese territory but they don't possess citizenship of PRC.
The US has immigration laws. You either are a citizen, have a valid visa, or are illegal and will be deported.
Russians (and other ethnic group) know that policemen are human beings. They won't neither arrest, nor deport you if they are killed. And, of course, police can join the Rebels, too.
LOL. Wrong. ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) are the immigration police here. They deport millions every year, with no regrets. They are heavily armed.
I doubt that he'll do it without really serious provocation (like, say, sending Russian strategic bombers in Cuba).
Russian subs visit there, that is enough provocation. Trump's problem is that he needs congress to approve the capture before he could tell the military to take anything.
Yep. After American illegal and unprovoked aggression against Serbia, Iraq and Syria, yes, there is only one law in those jungles. "Might is right". Sad, but true. You made it. You destroyed post-WWII world order and turned it in pre-WWIII. But there is one positive thing about it - there will be new, may be better, world order after WWIII.
There won't be any "world order" after WW3. Just survivors.
 
There was no "purge" of Russian speakers in Ukraine that I saw. Only the quelling of riots by Russian agitators after the Maidan Revolution where the majority said "we don't want to be Russian".

As I said earlier - you are pretty ignorant about actual situation in Ukraine and Russia. Or just don't count Russians as human beings.
No one "group" in the US would take up arms against Washington, especially New Yorkers, they aren't allowed to have guns in NY. We realize that whatever politicians do can be undone after the next election.
There were groups in the US, who took up arms against Washington. It was back in 1861, as far as know.

We disagree on what an independent Ukraine looks like.
Yep. We disagree. And I definitely know better.

He will, but Mexico protects them, so it needs to be done carefully.

Of course Mexico protect them, and that's why you should destroy Mexico first. But anyway, the US government also protect drug-dealers. The ordinary Americans doesn't have right to kill pushers, do they?
And that's one of the many reasons why so many people consider US government as "criminal".

So you say. But what is really happening is that the fentanyl is killing off the low-IQ bums that drag society down sucking resources from the budget.
Fentanyl destroy societies with low-IQ leaders.

Because WW3 hasn't happened yet.
Looks like it will happen soon.

Correct, it is the people's house, the majority of the people's house. Minorities need to tread lightly.
Whoever is the owner of the house - you have no right for breaking and entering.

He was noble. An idealist who thought he could take on Putin politically, like in a civilized society. He found out the hard way what a brutal dictator does to political opposition.
And what brutal dictator Biden tried to do to political opposition? It's a risky game both in Russia and America.

The US government has more than enough firepower to remove/deport anyone, a fact.
Only if they don't annoy people (significant groups of them) really hard.

The US has immigration laws. You either are a citizen, have a valid visa, or are illegal and will be deported.
The laws can be changed. Like, if you ancestors immigrated in America after 1940 (or if they were delivered in America in slave-trading ships) - they cancel your citizenship and you became a "person without citizenship". Or your government may declare that you should be opressed and discriminated. Small groups can be discriminated quite safely. But try to discriminate a large group - and, highly likely, you'll face a civil war.

LOL. Wrong. ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) are the immigration police here. They deport millions every year, with no regrets. They are heavily armed.
How many Black and Spanish-speaking people live in the USA? Try to send them all in death camps (or even in reservations) - and they'll fight back.

Russian subs visit there, that is enough provocation. Trump's problem is that he needs congress to approve the capture before he could tell the military to take anything.
And US bombers visited Ukrainian airspace back at fall of 2021.

There won't be any "world order" after WW3. Just survivors.
Really? Who told you this BS?
 
Yep. We disagree what an independent Ukraine looks like. And I definitely know better.
We'll see how it plays out. Yo may be right, but if the war keeps up Ukraine will be nothing but worthless ruins.
Of course Mexico protects them, and that's why you should destroy Mexico first. But anyway, the US government also protects drug-dealers. Americans don't have a right to kill pushers, do they? That's one of the many reasons why people consider US government as "criminal".
Only the police can prosecute drug dealers. Its not the US government that protects drug dealers, its just the criminal democrats.
Whoever is the owner of the house - you have no right for breaking and entering.
Exactly. Sovereignty is a very good thing for peace and prosperity. Invading another country only leads to death and destruction.
And what brutal dictator Biden tried to do to political opposition? It's a risky game both in Russia and America.
Did a Biden order Trump killed? Good question.
The immigration laws can be changed. Like, if your ancestors immigrated in America after 1940 (or if they were delivered in America in slave-trading ships) - they cancel your citizenship and you became a "person without citizenship". Or your government may declare that you should be oppressed and discriminated. Small groups can be discriminated quite safely. But try to discriminate a large group - and, highly likely, you'll face a civil war.
They can't cancel someone's citizenship. You keep hoping for a civil war in the US. That's funny. We're too focused on making money to worry about civil wars.
How many Black and Spanish-speaking people live in the USA? Try to send them all in death camps (or even in reservations) - and they'll fight back.
There will be no "ethnic cleansing" in the US. We're made up of multiple ethnicities and races.
Really? Who told you this BS that after WW3 there would be no order?
Einstein.
 
We'll see how it plays out. Yo may be right, but if the war keeps up Ukraine will be nothing but worthless ruins.
No problem. Better worthless ruines (and not only in Ukraine) than NATO forces. Anyway, buildings are expendables. We easily build new ones. Did you watch recent videos from Mariupol?

Its almost entirely new city.

Only the police can prosecute drug dealers. Its not the US government that protects drug dealers, its just the criminal democrats.
Oh, man, there is no practical difference between criminal Democrats and criminal Republicans.

Exactly. Sovereignty is a very good thing for peace and prosperity. Invading another country only leads to death and destruction.
As well as invading in other spheres of influence. NATO invaded in Russian sphere of influence, Ukraine invaded in DPR and LPR. So, they are going to suffer death and destruction.

Did a Biden order Trump killed? Good question.
Not really. It's not about personalities. Its about political regime, that allow murders of political opponents.

They can't cancel someone's citizenship.
Of course they can. It is exactly what Baltic states did, and they, as you say, are examples of "democracy". I believe you don't want that kind of "democracy" in America.

You keep hoping for a civil war in the US. That's funny. We're too focused on making money to worry about civil wars.
Printing money as any other Ponzi scheme eventually collapse. And after this collapse - quite likely, there will be a civil war. Anyway, if you establish Baltic or Ukrainian type of democracy in America - you'll have civil war, too.
I'm not hoping for this. Just illustrated what kind of democracy they have in Baltic states and Ukraine.

There will be no "ethnic cleansing" in the US. We're made up of multiple ethnicities and races.
Same are Russians, and Ukrainians, and Iraqis, and Syrians and Yugoslavians. Xenophobia is quite universal thing. Sometimes a government can handle it, sometimes not. Do what Kievan regime do, and you'll have a Civil War even without any Russian influence.

Einstein.
It was kinda exaggeration. In fact, America can accept a defeat in a nuclear war even after losing lesser than one million of civilians. Montana and Wyoming might die out, but who really cares about them?
 
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