Mormon and gay: Church says you can be both

[guno]

Wonder how this is going over with the flock


'monumental' shift
No issue in the last decade has divided churches as deeply as homosexuality. As public opinion -- and scientific understanding -- on sexuality has shifted with remarkable speed, many denominations, including Mormon leaders, have had to grapple with a difficult question: How do they maintain traditional doctrine that homosexual acts are sinful, while accepting and ministering to gay and lesbian Mormons who sincerely wish to remain part of their church?
Unveiled on Tuesday, "Mormon and Gay" is one answer to that question.
The web page features video messages and essays from five church members, including Rosas, who identify as same-sex attracted, gay, lesbian or bisexual. The materials are intended to facilitate empathetic understanding and provide information on sexual identification, church doctrine and mental health resources.
Senior church leaders call these new materials "simply an update" from the webpage "Mormons and Gays," released in 2012 on a domain unaffiliated with the church's official website. ("Mormons and Gays" now redirects to the new "Mormons and Gay" page.)


Mormon and gay: Church says you can be both - CNN.com

 

[Disir]

So, there really is no difference. A shift would be allowing them to be who they are rather than putting a smiley face on it and maintaining the same stance.

 

[JakeStarkey]

tyrone will be happy to know he can still be part of the flock, as will bobblaylock.

 

[Auld Phart]

Finally, a church that welcomes guano.

Maybe he'll lighten up on his anti religion posts now

 

[guno]

Finally, a church that welcomes guano.

Maybe he'll lighten up on his anti religion posts now

you would fit right in willhaftabrain

 

[OnePercenter]

For the same reason marketers target Gay households. Two Men have a greater income than an Man and a Woman. Mo tithing's!

 

[Auld Phart]

Finally, a church that welcomes guano.

Maybe he'll lighten up on his anti religion posts now

you would fit right in willhaftabrain

Study

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Anyone can be a Mormon. But if you practice sin you can not be saved nor a priestholder.

 

[onefour1]

The church says that as long as you don't act upon the sin you can still be a member. Those who act on the sin, will be excommunicated. The church teaches to love the sinner but hate the sin. It is all about repentance and changing one's behavior.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:21-32
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

CNN is no authority on the church. Or anything else for that matter.

 

[Syriusly]

The church says that as long as you don't act upon the sin you can still be a member. Those who act on the sin, will be excommunicated. The church teaches to love the sinner but hate the sin. It is all about repentance and changing one's behavior.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:21-32
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

CNN is no authority on the church. Or anything else for that matter.

So the Mormons enforce Leviticus? Well that is interesting- I don't remember anything about Mormon men not being able to cut their hair....or not being able to eat pigs.....

But its good to know that Mormons will excommunicate anyone who is proud or those boasters- and those who are disobediant to their parents.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Mormons are as silly in selective literalism as any Christian group.

 

[tyroneweaver]

tyrone will be happy to know he can still be part of the flock, as will bobblaylock.

Dang, you found out. And I've been trying to keep it a secret.

 

[HaShev]

THEY QUOTE:
Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination....

BUT dance around and ignore the fact Jesus was caught sleeping with a young boy (probably Lazarus) and that his home town of Capernaum was liken to San Francisco in that it was a port town where men would lay down with men.

sources:

A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of Kerioth, According to this seemingly authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life,including relationswith John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.
Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').