More WTC Conspiracy Stuff

[eots]

Rep for whoever will put it into this picture:

and some people still believe fire caused these mammoths of steel and concrete to be reduced to dust and fall in.........10 secs.......unbelievable

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Rep for whoever will put it into this picture:

and some people still believe fire caused these mammoths of steel and concrete to be reduced to dust and fall in.........10 secs.......unbelievable

And some REALLY DUMB people actually think that THOUSANDS of people that worked in those buildings did not notice HEAVY construction on numerous floors , nor the large amount of explosives and wiring and radio equipment needed for the Government to have secretly blown them up.

By the way dumb ass? Your whole schtick about 10 seconds applies to explosives too. Because all they do is take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors and USE GRAVITY to bring the building down directly in on itself.

Go ahead pollute another thread with your ignorant cut and paste jobs with absolutely no actual proof nor explanation how the Government got hundreds , more like thousands of people, to all agree to be quiet going on 8 years now. Or are you back to claiming only a couple people were needed to lace 3 buildings with heavy construction and string explosives and wiring in buildings with internal security?

 

[JBeukema]

Your whole schtick about 10 seconds applies to explosives too. Because all they do is take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors and USE GRAVITY to bring the building down directly in on itself.

-you're not very familiar w/ demolitions, are you? Explosive (such as the 'quibs' that are seen in the video, according to those who believe demolitions were involved) do not just 'take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors'- they systematically destroy the supports to cause an 'implosion' (not *really* an implosion, but whatever). ON;y demolitions do this, resulting in a collapse at near-free-fall speed. 'Pancake collapses' occur more slowly, have no quibs, lack firefighter reports of multiple explosions, and rarely, if ever known to do so, fall straight down


I love how the plane and the jet fuel that it building 7 made it collapse, too

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Your whole schtick about 10 seconds applies to explosives too. Because all they do is take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors and USE GRAVITY to bring the building down directly in on itself.

-you're not very familiar w/ demolitions, are you? Explosive (such as the 'quibs' that are seen in the video, according to those who believe demolitions were involved) do not just 'take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors'- they systematically destroy the supports to cause an 'implosion' (not *really* an implosion, but whatever). ON;y demolitions do this, resulting in a collapse at near-free-fall speed. 'Pancake collapses' occur more slowly, have no quibs, lack firefighter reports of multiple explosions, and rarely, if ever known to do so, fall straight down


I love how the plane and the jet fuel that it building 7 made it collapse, too

GLAD this was moved to the appropriate place, the dumbies forum, err I mean conspiracy forum.

As for your claim, I wonder what massive slabs of concrete weighted down by nuerous upper floors of a skyscraper SOUND like when they SLAM into the floors below them? Crushing every thing in the process, possibly cause some things to pop or explode in the process. Got any ideas you dumb ass?

Ohh and back to that explosives.... to bring a building down in on it's self they need to do construction on the supports in the basement and every x number of floors above based on the size of the building. AND all must go off on a very precise timer.

SO let me get this straight..... the Government secretly laced 3 different buildings with heavy construction on NUMEROUS floors and packed those floors with explosives and very noticeable wiring from support to support all while the building was occupied and being used by thousands and thousands of people. All unseen, unnoticed. The internal security never noticed all this construction or packing and wiring.And THEN those explosives were not effected in the least , nor their set off circuits by HUGE jetliners SLAMMING into the buildings dumping jet fuel on numerous floors setting huge fires and cause structural damage to the numerous floors the jets hit. I got that about right?

 

[Toro]

Your whole schtick about 10 seconds applies to explosives too. Because all they do is take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors and USE GRAVITY to bring the building down directly in on itself.

-you're not very familiar w/ demolitions, are you? Explosive (such as the 'quibs' that are seen in the video, according to those who believe demolitions were involved) do not just 'take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors'- they systematically destroy the supports to cause an 'implosion' (not *really* an implosion, but whatever). ON;y demolitions do this, resulting in a collapse at near-free-fall speed. 'Pancake collapses' occur more slowly, have no quibs, lack firefighter reports of multiple explosions, and rarely, if ever known to do so, fall straight down


I love how the plane and the jet fuel that it building 7 made it collapse, too

Charges in demolitions are placed in the lower floors of the buildings. The alleged charges were not on the lower floors.

Here are refutations of the conspiracy theories from a highly-regarded demolition firm.

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf

 

[JBeukema]

did they ever explain building 7, make up their mind about 'pulling' the building (which the building's owner said they did), and explain the 'quibs'?

 

[Toro]

did they ever explain building 7, make up their mind about 'pulling' the building (which the building's owner said they did), and explain the 'quibs'?

People in demolition circles, according to the article published by demolition experts, do not say the word "pull" when they signal the demolition to begin.

 

[eots]

really ?



[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mvDcgf3x3I&feature=related[/ame]

 

[Toro]

Yes.

In the Protec paper, they state that in their 30 years of demolishing all sorts of buildings, they have never once heard the term "pull it" used to trigger an explosion.

 

[eots]

did they ever explain building 7, make up their mind about 'pulling' the building (which the building's owner said they did), and explain the 'quibs'?

People in demolition circles, according to the article published by demolition experts, do not say the word "pull" when they signal the demolition to begin.

important to not controlled demolition inc...was the company that did the clean up and destruction of evidence



Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI), founded by Jack Loizeaux in 1947, is a firm headquartered in Phoenix, Maryland that specializes in the use of explosives to create a controlled demolition of a structure, with the structure collapsing on itself into a pile of debris contained within the site of the building. Controlled Demolition claims to have imploded "more buildings, chimneys, towers, bridges, and other structures" than all of its other competitors combined.[1]

The firm was created by Jack Loizeaux who used dynamite to remove tree stumps in the Baltimore, Maryland area, and moved on to to using explosives to take down chimneys, overpasses and small buildings in the 1940s



On September 22, 2001, a preliminary cleanup plan for the World Trade Center site was delivered by Controlled Demolition, Inc. in which Mark Loizeaux, president of CDI, emphasized the importance of protecting the slurry wall (or "the bathtub") which kept the Hudson River from flooding the WTC's basement.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Demolition,_Inc.

 

[eots]

Your whole schtick about 10 seconds applies to explosives too. Because all they do is take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors and USE GRAVITY to bring the building down directly in on itself.

-you're not very familiar w/ demolitions, are you? Explosive (such as the 'quibs' that are seen in the video, according to those who believe demolitions were involved) do not just 'take out a floors supports to allow upper floors to collapse onto lower floors'- they systematically destroy the supports to cause an 'implosion' (not *really* an implosion, but whatever). ON;y demolitions do this, resulting in a collapse at near-free-fall speed. 'Pancake collapses' occur more slowly, have no quibs, lack firefighter reports of multiple explosions, and rarely, if ever known to do so, fall straight down


I love how the plane and the jet fuel that it building 7 made it collapse, too

GLAD this was moved to the appropriate place, the dumbies forum, err I mean conspiracy forum.

As for your claim, I wonder what massive slabs of concrete weighted down by nuerous upper floors of a skyscraper SOUND like when they SLAM into the floors below them? Crushing every thing in the process, possibly cause some things to pop or explode in the process. Got any ideas you dumb ass?

well actually you uniformed dumb ass..the reports of explosions came from the staff in the basements well before the collapse of the building..and from firemen just before the collapse..you really should investigate this things before you give your opinions

Ohh and back to that explosives.... to bring a building down in on it's self they need to do construction on the supports in the basement and every x number of floors above based on the size of the building. AND all must go off on a very precise timer.

SO let me get this straight..... the Government secretly laced 3 different buildings with heavy construction on NUMEROUS floors and packed those floors with explosives and very noticeable wiring from support to support all while the building was occupied and being used by thousands and thousands of people. All unseen, unnoticed. The internal security never noticed all this construction or packing and wiring.And THEN those explosives were not effected in the least , nor their set off circuits by HUGE jetliners SLAMMING into the buildings dumping jet fuel on numerous floors setting huge fires and cause structural damage to the numerous floors the jets hit. I got that about right?

..bomb sniffing dogs where removed in the weeks priorto 911...strange construction activities and unprecedented power downs where reported by multiple wittness who gave sworn statements in the weeks prior to 911..evidence indicates thermite not standard explosive where sed..creating the otherwise unexplainable molten metal...and for the icing on the cake....jeb Bush's company was in charge of security and wtc...until Sept 10th ...on sept 11th..American hero .. patriot and x FBI agent ..john O'Neil who quit in protest ignored warnings of a impending attack on the towers was hired as head of security at wtc and is official reported to have died in the 911 attacks...those are the facts..can you deal with it ?



The former head of the FBI's flagship antiterrorism unit in New York City, O'Neill had investigated the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Africa and the USS Cole in Yemen. For six years, he led the fight to track down and prosecute Al Qaeda operatives throughout the world. But his flamboyant, James Bond style and obsession with Osama bin Laden made him a controversial figure inside the buttoned-down world of the FBI. Just two weeks before Sept. 11, O'Neill left the bureau for a job in the private sector -- as head of security at the World Trade Center. He died there after rushing back into the burning towers to aid in the rescue efforts.

frontline: the man who knew: introduction | PBS






POWER DOWNS

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSXmZVVCMI[/ame]



EXPLOSIONS

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JohbGuqLx-U[/ame]

MOLTEN METAL


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9qEIlNVl5s[/ame]



SO WHAT THE FUCKS UP RGS ?..WHOS LYING ?..LETS HEAR THE DENIAL

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet you still can not answer simply fucking questions. Go figure. You are beyond delusional and paranoid to boot. Any lie is ok with you as long as it fits your belief system. You can not prove or even explain how the buildings were worked on, nor how the explosives were not seen, nor how the wiring was not seen.

Ohh by the way RETARD. Thermite burns DOWN, it does not explode, it ignites and then burns straight down. You see you ignorant turd I handled thermite in the military. It was what we had to emergency destroy our classified crypto gear. A LOT of gear with a lot of thermite grenades. We got to play with it every year or so to remain familiar on how it worked. The only danger one had with handling it was being under it or trying to do anything with it after pulling the pin.

We got to watch it do things like eat through several "retired" pieces of equipment stacked on an engine block. It make a clean hole straight down only melting what it touched.. SO dumb ass there would have been no EXPLOSION sounds associated with thermite and it would have had to be laced INSIDE the girders to cut them. Then it would not have cut ACROSS it would have melted in a downward manner till it burned out.

 

[eots]

And yet you still can not answer simply fucking questions. Go figure. You are beyond delusional and paranoid to boot. Any lie is ok with you as long as it fits your belief system. You can not prove or even explain how the buildings were worked on, nor how the explosives were not seen, nor how the wiring was not seen.

it is your delusional belief that wiring had to be visible..the structures required to be cut where not exposed there is this thing called...walls

Ohh by the way RETARD. Thermite burns DOWN, it does not explode, it ignites and then burns straight down. You see you ignorant turd I handled thermite in the military. It was what we had to emergency destroy our classified crypto gear. A LOT of gear with a lot of thermite grenades. We got to play with it every year or so to remain familiar on how it worked. The only danger one had with handling it was being under it or trying to do anything with it after pulling the pin.

listen fuck face i have done underwater cutting..I understand how it works..the explosions where in the sub-basement

We got to watch it do things like eat through several "retired" pieces of equipment stacked on an engine block. It make a clean hole straight down only melting what it touched.. SO dumb ass there would have been no EXPLOSION sounds associated with thermite and it would have had to be laced INSIDE the girders to cut them. Then it would not have cut ACROSS it would have melted in a downward manner till it burned out.

yes exactly...so where did the molten metal come from..or are the first responders lying and are part of your grand conspiracy..and the molten meteorites put on display where what ? planted by bin laden ?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet you still can not answer simply fucking questions. Go figure. You are beyond delusional and paranoid to boot. Any lie is ok with you as long as it fits your belief system. You can not prove or even explain how the buildings were worked on, nor how the explosives were not seen, nor how the wiring was not seen.

it is your delusional belief that wiring had to be visible..the structures required to be cut where not exposed there is this thing called...walls






listen fuck face i have done underwater cutting..I understand how it works..the explosions where in the sub-basement

We got to watch it do things like eat through several "retired" pieces of equipment stacked on an engine block. It make a clean hole straight down only melting what it touched.. SO dumb ass there would have been no EXPLOSION sounds associated with thermite and it would have had to be laced INSIDE the girders to cut them. Then it would not have cut ACROSS it would have melted in a downward manner till it burned out.

yes exactly...so where did the molten metal come from..or are the first responders lying and are part of your grand conspiracy..and the molten meteorites put on display where what ? planted by bin laden ?

Trying to have it both ways again. First you claim explosives were used and people heard the sound of explosions, then you claim thermite was used and cut through the girders.

Thermite does NOT explode. If it did you would have all kind of problems, think napalm that can eat through metal. Goes through concrete as well.

So which was it dumb ass? If it was thermite then there would be no EXPLOSIONS. If it were explosives then they can not, according to your theory, melt metal. They use the explosive force to break it. Thermite does not move horizontally. If they laid thermite on the outer portions of the girders they would NOT cut them. They would eat straight down from where they were laid.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Here ya go dumbass.

Thermite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[eots]

Here ya go dumbass.

Thermite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

its ok old solider just take the blue pill and go back to sleep

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Here ya go dumbass.

Thermite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

its ok old solider just take the blue pill and go back to sleep

That is all you have, after claiming THERMITE EXPLOSIVES were used to cut the girders?

 

[eots]

Here ya go dumbass.

Thermite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

its ok old solider just take the blue pill and go back to sleep

That is all you have, after claiming THERMITE EXPLOSIVES were used to cut the girders?

no I have first responder testomony to explosions and molten metal and physical evidence of molten metal..but you cant deali with those facts..so... just take the blue pill already

 

[RetiredGySgt]

its ok old solider just take the blue pill and go back to sleep

That is all you have, after claiming THERMITE EXPLOSIVES were used to cut the girders?

no I have first responder testomony to explosions and molten metal and physical evidence of molten metal..but you cant deali with those facts..so... just take the blue pill already

You are beyond fucking stupid. Once again RETARD. I have first hand experience with THERMITE. It is not an explosive. It does not make much noise going off. It does not travel horizontally. It can be used as a Pyrotechnic, meaning LIGHT show.

 

[eots]

Techno-Science Explosive Thermite
Explosive Thermite or How to burn things at Techno-Science

nobody said thermite made sound...they are however considered an explosive...dumb ass