Same here, in regard to the first thing you said. It can be challenging, because as the saying goes, ”If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention”… but if a message is shared in the wrong way, you can’t reach people. So that’s something I try to be mindful of, how to get a message across in the right way, the way that actually works. If we can’t do that, then we’re no better than the ones we criticize, and it’s fruitless. (Is that a word?)
Most anything I talk about these days, I do so for the benefit of casual passers-by, to be honest. I'm rarely interested in debating or trying to change someone's mind. The most vocal people aren't going to change their minds anyway. I find that the ripest fruit to come from those exchanges is for the casual passer-by to observe just how little so many actually understand about a given topic of discussion. It's what I meant when I'd mentioned that the loudest are so often the weakest. So it's important to invite that to be demonstrated. At the same time, the information stage has almost run its course. For the time being anyway. We're back to a transition to a phase of action, much like what were doing back in '07/'08, if you recall. Which I know you do.
About the gradual erosion of virtue, I’m glad you bring that up on threads because almost no one talks about that and it’s such an important topic. I believe it has been by design. In the same way the the PTSB have purposely dumbed down the populace over the last several decades (they want dumb, compliant little serfs) they have also intentionally and gradually destroyed virtue. Apparently they understand that liberty depends on people being knowledgeable, aware and virtuous. That reminds me of a famous quote about America being great because America is good. When America ceases to be good, it will cease to be great. (I’m paraphrasing.) Well, I think we’re well beyond the point of America being good. And sadly, most of the electorate not only don’t seem to care about that, but they cheer on and enable the tyrants and frauds/ traitors. Which goes back to the original point.
Yeah. It's kind of been indoctrinated into people's minds that laws will dictate the virtue of society. But that's not how it works. Society has to resolve its moral problem itself and then that will reflect on the laws. That's a deep discussion actually, we get into liberty-responsibility there.
Speaking of liberty, as I mentioned to you the other day, I think true liberty comes only from God. That’s a topic that I think is worthy of a thread of its own, but it goes along with what we were just talking about. When the public turns their back on God, they will inevitably end up in bondage. I think that’s true on an individual level, and on a national level. But again, that should go on a thread of its own. For now I’ll just post a relevant scripture.
“….where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” 2 Corinthians 3:17
One of my favorite scriptures is Proverbs 28:1. "The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion."
Here's a snip from a very good book on the topic of responsibility and Individual liberty. Which I'll link as a courtesy, since your thought here reminds me of it.
The American Ideal Of 1776
Anyway...
1. The Spiritual is Supreme
". . . all men are created . . . endowed by their Creator . . ." (Declaration of Independence)
The Principle
1. The fundamental principle underlying the traditional American philosophy is that the Spiritual is supreme--that Man is of Divine origin and his spiritual, or religious, nature is of supreme value and importance compared with things material.
Religious Nature
2. This governmental philosophy is, therefore, essentially religious in nature. It is uniquely American; no other people in all history have ever made this principle the basis of their governmental philosophy. The spiritual brotherhood of men under the common fatherhood of God is a concept which is basic to this American philosophy. It expresses the spiritual relationship of God to Man and, in the light thereof, of Man to Man. To forget these truths is a most heinous offense against the spirit of traditional America because the greatest sin is the lost consciousness of sin.
The fundamentally religious basis of this philosophy is the foundation of its moral code, which contemplates The Individual's moral duty as being created by God's Law: the Natural Law. The Individual's duty requires obedience to this Higher Law; while knowledge of this duty comes from conscience, which the religious-minded and morally-aware Individual feels duty-bound to heed. This philosophy asserts that there are moral absolutes: truths, such as those mentioned above, which are binding upon all Individuals at all times under all circumstances. This indicates some of the spiritual and moral values which are inherent in its concept of Individual Liberty-Responsibility.
An Indivisible Whole
3. The American philosophy, based upon this principle, is an indivisible whole and must be accepted or rejected as such. It cannot be treated piece-meal. Its fundamentals and its implicit meanings and obligations must be accepted together with its benefits.
The Individual's Self-respect
4. The concept of Man's spiritual nature, and the resulting concept of the supreme dignity and value of each Individual, provide the fundamental basis for each Individual's self-respect and the consequent mutual respect among Individual's. This self-respect as well as this mutual respect are the outgrowth of, and evidenced by, The Individual's maintenance of his God-given, unalienable rights. They are maintained by requiring that government and other Individuals respect them, as well as by his dedication to his own unceasing growth toward realization of his highest potential-- spiritually, morally, intellectually, in every aspect of life. This is in order that he may merit maximum respect by self and by others.
Some Things Excluded
5. This concept of Man's spiritual nature excludes any idea of intrusion by government into this Man-to-Man spiritual relationship. It excludes the anti-moral precept that the end justifies the means and the related idea that the means can be separated from the end when judging them morally. This concept therefore excludes necessarily any idea of attempting to do good by force--for instance, through coercion of Man by Government, whether or not claimed to be for his own good or for the so-called common good or general welfare.
It excludes disbelief in--even doubt as to the existence of--God as the Creator of Man: and therefore excludes all ideas, theories and schools of thought--however ethical and lofty in intentions--which reject affirmative and positive belief in God as Man's Creator.
The Truly American Concept
6. Only those ideas, programs and practices, regarding things governmental, which are consistent with the concept that "The Spiritual is supreme" can justly be claimed to be truly American traditionally. Anything and everything governmental, which is in conflict with this concept, is non-American--judged by traditional belief.
This applies particularly to that which is agnostic, or atheistic--neutral about, or hostile to, positive and affirmative belief in this concept based upon belief in God as Man's Creator. There is not room for doubt, much less disbelief, in this regard from the standpoint of the traditional American philosophy. Its indivisible nature makes this inescapably true. This pertains, of course, to the realm of ideas and not to any person; it is the conflicting idea which is classified as non-American, according to this philosophy.
Mark Dice videos are hilarious... but truly disturbing!
It’s hard to believe that anyone could be that ignorant or indoctrinated. But that brings up another truth…. “people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.”
Yeah. I used to believe that it was hard to believe that people could be that dumb. But the long march through the Institutions have effectively ensured it.
It's why it's so important to demonstrate it, going back to what I'd mentioned earlier on in this communication.
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