More Obamacare Screwups. You Can't Have a Baby or Get Married/Divorced.

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Yep...apparently the geniuses who brought us Obamacare forgot to add functionality for change of life issues. So, once you get insurance and you have a baby....you cannot add your baby to your existing coverage as you now can because the functionality does not exist on healthcare.gov.

Get Divorced? Sorry...can't change that. Getting married? Sorry...too bad.

And of course you will eventually need to notify big brother (oops...sorry...the Government) when these changes occur. Under the old system these life changes were none of the Government's business...but now apparently they are.

Here's the story.



APNewsBreak: Adding a new baby to plan not easy
Associated Press
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR 7 hours ago



WASHINGTON (AP) — There's another quirk in the Obama administration's new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.

With regular private insurance, parents just notify the health plan. Insurers will still cover new babies, the administration says, but parents will also have to contact the government at some point later on.

Right now the HealthCare.gov website can't handle such updates.

It's a reminder that the new coverage for many uninsured Americans comes with a third party in the mix: the feds. And the system's wiring for some vital federal functions isn't yet fully connected.

It's not just having a new baby that could create bureaucratic hassles, but other life changes affecting a consumer's taxpayer-subsidized premiums. The list includes marriage and divorce, a death in the family, a new job or a change in income, even moving to a different community.

Such changes affect financial assistance available under the law, so the government has to be brought into the loop.

At least 2 million people have signed up for private health policies through new government markets under President Barack Obama's overhaul. Coverage started Wednesday, and so far things appear to be running fairly smoothly, although it may take time for problems to bubble up. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius calls it "a new day in health care" for millions of Americans.

Insurers say computerized "change in circumstance" updates to deal with family and life developments were supposed to have been part of the federal system from the start.

But that feature got postponed as the government scrambled to fix technical problems that overwhelmed the health care website during its first couple of months.

"It's just another example of 'We'll fix that later,'" said Bob Laszewski, an industry consultant who said he's gotten complaints from several insurer clients. "This needed to be done well before January. It's sort of a fly-by-night approach."

"We are currently working with insurers to find ways to make changing coverage easier while we develop an automated way for consumers to update their coverage directly," responded an administration spokesman, Aaron Albright.

A Dec. 31 circular from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services addressed the problem.

In questions and answers for insurers, the government said that the federal insurance marketplace will not be able to add a child until the system's automated features become "available later." It does not provide any clue as to when that might take place.

The federal marketplace serves 36 states through HealthCare.gov and call centers. The Medicare agency, which runs the government's other major health programs, is also responsible for expanded coverage under Obama's law.

The question-and-answer circular says parents with a new baby will be told to contact their insurer directly "to include the child immediately" on their existing policy.

After the federal system is ready to process changes, parents will have to contact the government to formally bring their records up to date. Albright said parents will be able to add a new child to their policy for 30 days.

Having a baby could increase a family's monthly premiums, but it could also mean that the parents are eligible for a bigger tax credit to help with the cost. Under some circumstances, it could make the child or the family eligible for Medicaid, a safety-net program that is virtually free of cost to low-income beneficiaries.

"Add it to the list that shows HealthCare.gov is not done," Laszewski said.



APNewsBreak: Adding a new baby to plan not easy
 

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If the government were completely in charge of everything it would all be okay.
 

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I wish I had the energy to fully describe how irritated this makes me, and all the logical consequences we should gleam from this. But unfortunately I'm too exhausted to do so. Tonsillitis is kicking my ass, and I don't have any health insurance to be able to do anything about it. Thanks Obamacare.
 

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Yep...apparently the geniuses who brought us Obamacare forgot to add functionality for change of life issues. So, once you get insurance and you have a baby....you cannot add your baby to your existing coverage as you now can because the functionality does not exist on healthcare.gov.

Get Divorced? Sorry...can't change that. Getting married? Sorry...too bad.

And of course you will eventually need to notify big brother (oops...sorry...the Government) when these changes occur. Under the old system these life changes were none of the Government's business...but now apparently they are.

Here's the story.



APNewsBreak: Adding a new baby to plan not easy
Associated Press
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR 7 hours ago



WASHINGTON (AP) — There's another quirk in the Obama administration's new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.

With regular private insurance, parents just notify the health plan. Insurers will still cover new babies, the administration says, but parents will also have to contact the government at some point later on.

Right now the HealthCare.gov website can't handle such updates.

It's a reminder that the new coverage for many uninsured Americans comes with a third party in the mix: the feds. And the system's wiring for some vital federal functions isn't yet fully connected.

It's not just having a new baby that could create bureaucratic hassles, but other life changes affecting a consumer's taxpayer-subsidized premiums. The list includes marriage and divorce, a death in the family, a new job or a change in income, even moving to a different community.

Such changes affect financial assistance available under the law, so the government has to be brought into the loop.

At least 2 million people have signed up for private health policies through new government markets under President Barack Obama's overhaul. Coverage started Wednesday, and so far things appear to be running fairly smoothly, although it may take time for problems to bubble up. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius calls it "a new day in health care" for millions of Americans.

Insurers say computerized "change in circumstance" updates to deal with family and life developments were supposed to have been part of the federal system from the start.

But that feature got postponed as the government scrambled to fix technical problems that overwhelmed the health care website during its first couple of months.

"It's just another example of 'We'll fix that later,'" said Bob Laszewski, an industry consultant who said he's gotten complaints from several insurer clients. "This needed to be done well before January. It's sort of a fly-by-night approach."

"We are currently working with insurers to find ways to make changing coverage easier while we develop an automated way for consumers to update their coverage directly," responded an administration spokesman, Aaron Albright.

A Dec. 31 circular from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services addressed the problem.

In questions and answers for insurers, the government said that the federal insurance marketplace will not be able to add a child until the system's automated features become "available later." It does not provide any clue as to when that might take place.

The federal marketplace serves 36 states through HealthCare.gov and call centers. The Medicare agency, which runs the government's other major health programs, is also responsible for expanded coverage under Obama's law.

The question-and-answer circular says parents with a new baby will be told to contact their insurer directly "to include the child immediately" on their existing policy.

After the federal system is ready to process changes, parents will have to contact the government to formally bring their records up to date. Albright said parents will be able to add a new child to their policy for 30 days.

Having a baby could increase a family's monthly premiums, but it could also mean that the parents are eligible for a bigger tax credit to help with the cost. Under some circumstances, it could make the child or the family eligible for Medicaid, a safety-net program that is virtually free of cost to low-income beneficiaries.

"Add it to the list that shows HealthCare.gov is not done," Laszewski said.



APNewsBreak: Adding a new baby to plan not easy
The first phrase you should see at the Obamacare website is "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." Funny he ran on "hope."
 
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1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
 

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So, what kind of bill does a premie rack up in the hospital when the Obamacare just says, "Oh we haven't figured that out yet." Who's problem is it? Let me guess...
 

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1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
"easily fixable"......? then howcome Obama'care' isn't already fixed....?

why is the number of uninsured rising....?
 

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Obamacare is intentionally fucked up. It was designed from the outset to be so anti-useful and expensive that We The People would demand Congress do something. That something, of course, would be Single Payer. They knew the American people wouldn't go for Single Payer right away, so Obamacare was the stepping stone.
 

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And again...You just can't make this shit up. (I believe this is at least the third time I have used this phrase in the past couple weeks on Obamacare)
Unbelievable.
The best description of how a bureaucracy operates was said to me by a postmaster a good 15 years ago - "the problem with the government is it primarily filled with a bunch of people who only know a thumbnails worth of what their particular agency does - now, they usually know that thumbnail extremely well - but know absolutely nothing about what everyone else is doing. Therefore to get anything accomplished you have to include nearly everyone in the entire branch to figure anything out"
 
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That's what you get.... being punished with a baby!
 

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1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
Yes, but it doesn't change what it typed into the Obamacare website, so it's not automatic.

Face it, Obamacare sucks.

The way Dems were sounding alarms about getting millions of people covered in 2014, you'd expect to see at least 7 million people rushing to the exchanges. The last count was over one million, if you can even believe anything, so that would indicate that they LIED about the number of people wanting insurance.

More people are without insurance now than before they did this. How does it make sense to pass a law to help people get insured and end up with millions losing what they had and not being able to afford it now with only a handful now getting it? Law or no law, millions of people cannot afford coverage any more. They could before this disaster.

So, now it takes cutting through more government red tape to make any changes in your policy, yet 80 old men have maternity coverage. What a giant clusterfuck this is.
 

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Yep...apparently the geniuses who brought us Obamacare forgot to add functionality for change of life issues. So, once you get insurance and you have a baby....you cannot add your baby to your existing coverage as you now can because the functionality does not exist on healthcare.gov.

Get Divorced? Sorry...can't change that. Getting married? Sorry...too bad.

And of course you will eventually need to notify big brother (oops...sorry...the Government) when these changes occur. Under the old system these life changes were none of the Government's business...but now apparently they are.

Here's the story.



APNewsBreak: Adding a new baby to plan not easy
Associated Press
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR 7 hours ago



WASHINGTON (AP) — There's another quirk in the Obama administration's new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.

With regular private insurance, parents just notify the health plan. Insurers will still cover new babies, the administration says, but parents will also have to contact the government at some point later on.

Right now the HealthCare.gov website can't handle such updates.

It's a reminder that the new coverage for many uninsured Americans comes with a third party in the mix: the feds. And the system's wiring for some vital federal functions isn't yet fully connected.

It's not just having a new baby that could create bureaucratic hassles, but other life changes affecting a consumer's taxpayer-subsidized premiums. The list includes marriage and divorce, a death in the family, a new job or a change in income, even moving to a different community.

Such changes affect financial assistance available under the law, so the government has to be brought into the loop.

At least 2 million people have signed up for private health policies through new government markets under President Barack Obama's overhaul. Coverage started Wednesday, and so far things appear to be running fairly smoothly, although it may take time for problems to bubble up. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius calls it "a new day in health care" for millions of Americans.

Insurers say computerized "change in circumstance" updates to deal with family and life developments were supposed to have been part of the federal system from the start.

But that feature got postponed as the government scrambled to fix technical problems that overwhelmed the health care website during its first couple of months.

"It's just another example of 'We'll fix that later,'" said Bob Laszewski, an industry consultant who said he's gotten complaints from several insurer clients. "This needed to be done well before January. It's sort of a fly-by-night approach."

"We are currently working with insurers to find ways to make changing coverage easier while we develop an automated way for consumers to update their coverage directly," responded an administration spokesman, Aaron Albright.

A Dec. 31 circular from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services addressed the problem.

In questions and answers for insurers, the government said that the federal insurance marketplace will not be able to add a child until the system's automated features become "available later." It does not provide any clue as to when that might take place.

The federal marketplace serves 36 states through HealthCare.gov and call centers. The Medicare agency, which runs the government's other major health programs, is also responsible for expanded coverage under Obama's law.

The question-and-answer circular says parents with a new baby will be told to contact their insurer directly "to include the child immediately" on their existing policy.

After the federal system is ready to process changes, parents will have to contact the government to formally bring their records up to date. Albright said parents will be able to add a new child to their policy for 30 days.

Having a baby could increase a family's monthly premiums, but it could also mean that the parents are eligible for a bigger tax credit to help with the cost. Under some circumstances, it could make the child or the family eligible for Medicaid, a safety-net program that is virtually free of cost to low-income beneficiaries.

"Add it to the list that shows HealthCare.gov is not done," Laszewski said.



APNewsBreak: Adding a new baby to plan not easy
The first phrase you should see at the Obamacare website is "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." Funny he ran on "hope."
:eusa_angel:Yep he ran on "hope". Then he ran out of here.
 
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1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
"easily fixable"......? then howcome Obama'care' isn't already fixed....?

why is the number of uninsured rising....?
Beats me nor do I care. I was talking about the problem that this thread is talking about. I personally am not following the problems with obamacare closely because I don't have to get it.
1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
Yes, but it doesn't change what it typed into the Obamacare website, so it's not automatic.

Face it, Obamacare sucks.

The way Dems were sounding alarms about getting millions of people covered in 2014, you'd expect to see at least 7 million people rushing to the exchanges. The last count was over one million, if you can even believe anything, so that would indicate that they LIED about the number of people wanting insurance.

More people are without insurance now than before they did this. How does it make sense to pass a law to help people get insured and end up with millions losing what they had and not being able to afford it now with only a handful now getting it? Law or no law, millions of people cannot afford coverage any more. They could before this disaster.

So, now it takes cutting through more government red tape to make any changes in your policy, yet 80 old men have maternity coverage. What a giant clusterfuck this is.
Yes Obamacare does suck. We need a single payer system not what we have now.
 

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1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
"easily fixable"......? then howcome Obama'care' isn't already fixed....?

why is the number of uninsured rising....?
:eusa_shhh:Why isn't it already fixed? Because everytime they fix something in it... it messes something else in it up.
 

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1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
Easily fixable by who ?

If it is easily fixable, the government will take forever and will still screw it up.

If it is hard to fix.....kiss it good-bye.
 

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1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
"easily fixable"......? then howcome Obama'care' isn't already fixed....?

why is the number of uninsured rising....?
Beats me nor do I care. I was talking about the problem that this thread is talking about. I personally am not following the problems with obamacare closely because I don't have to get it.
1. Its all easily fixable.
2. When you get married,wife changes her name and has to get new SS card and DL so yes government does know,when baby is born birth certificate and SS card again government knows,divorce again government knows.
Yes, but it doesn't change what it typed into the Obamacare website, so it's not automatic.

Face it, Obamacare sucks.

The way Dems were sounding alarms about getting millions of people covered in 2014, you'd expect to see at least 7 million people rushing to the exchanges. The last count was over one million, if you can even believe anything, so that would indicate that they LIED about the number of people wanting insurance.

More people are without insurance now than before they did this. How does it make sense to pass a law to help people get insured and end up with millions losing what they had and not being able to afford it now with only a handful now getting it? Law or no law, millions of people cannot afford coverage any more. They could before this disaster.

So, now it takes cutting through more government red tape to make any changes in your policy, yet 80 old men have maternity coverage. What a giant clusterfuck this is.
Yes Obamacare does suck. We need a single payer system not what we have now.
Yeah, that's really gonna fly right now. :lol::lol::lol:

Take the guys who screwed up the administration of Obamacare and put them in charge of everything.

Sebelius wouldn't last a day.
 
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