More Guns, More Murder

Actually we don't. We just don't want gun laws passed based on skewed data. Don't you find it sad the amount of black on black crime? I think it's tragic and horrible.

I find problems in the black community very troubling. The person I was responding to says things like:

A touch of HPD present in all Blacks. A bred to the bone Communist. A 'Bi'. The first 'affirmative action' President. We all know how those 'affirmative action employees' turned out. A bunch of Black 'Takers'. A bunch of young White women somehow conflicted and attracted to 'Black men' and what's supposed to be waiting for them in their wet dreams.'

How do the simians get illegal hand guns?

Sure a couple of dozen need to be injected onto the streets per week in the country b/c some simian shot his cousin over a pair of Nikes but the number of illegal stolen hand guns from your average B&E in the suburbs isn't that many.

All it will take is for a bunch of young Black simians to try to loot a S. Korean convenience store when little old granny is behind the counter holding an AK47 with twenty clips by her side.

Speaking of NFL football players. What is the first thing blacks buy after getting a million dollar 'signing cheque' after the Ferrari? That's right a White woman.
Given the choice between 'Moo' and Jackie who do you think Black NFL football players would rather bang? Got it in one.
They have been able to 'bang' literally every twelve year old Black soon to be 'baby-mamma since they were 12. The one and only chance they'd ever be able to bang a physically beautiful White woman is to have enough cash to buy her.
Pretty pathetic.

I'll hand it to 'T'. He is doing his bit making sure ten thousand maggots aren't going hungry.
George deserves the Noble Peace Prize. How many old Black grannies have told their budding 'gang-banger' grand sons as they go out the door for another night of acting like simians? "Don't forget. The White Cracker may have a gun".

Will this help: Defended himself against a simian punk waste of space.
 
oh that is a rag piece. If somebody publishes there - consider it a FAIL.

What is sleazy here is that they are imitating the name of a well known publication, "The American Journal of Health." They insert the word "Public" and are a vehicle of the SEIU/DNC.

This isn't the first time this group has published dubious "studies."
 
oh that is a rag piece. If somebody publishes there - consider it a FAIL.

What is sleazy here is that they are imitating the name of a well known publication, "The American Journal of Health." They insert the word "Public" and are a vehicle of the SEIU/DNC.

This isn't the first time this group has published dubious "studies."

yes, you are absolutely correct.
 
Here's the real stat.: 55% of gun related homicides in the US were 'Black on Black' in 2010. Blacks make up only 13% of the population.
Deal with the fact that Blacks score about 15 points lower in IQ than Whites but are living in an ever increasingly more 'dog-eat-dog' competitive world and you are looking at an entire race that can not keep up. All the best will in the world can't fix 'stupid' when it comes to making it in this world. The hand-outs disguised by any other name have not helped and they are drying up globally. Remember those adds meant to break our hearts about the plight of Blacks kids in Africa so we would send money to a bottomless pit and basically make millionaires of Black despots? Unless it's Christmas those ads are gone. Tell you something?
The fact that the 'Black' problem' never goes away ought to wise up people.


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My very own research:

100% of my family has owned guns for the last 5 generations and none have been murdered or committed murder. So this means that 100% gun ownership would mean zero murders.
 
The largest study of gun violence in the United States, released Thursday afternoon, confirms a point that should be obvious: widespread American gun ownership is fueling America’s gun violence epidemic.

The study, by Professor Michael Siegel at Boston University and two coauthors, has been peer-reviewed and is forthcoming in the American Journal of Public Health. Siegel and his colleagues compiled data on firearm homicides from all 50 states from 1981-2010, the longest stretch of time ever studied in this fashion, and set about seeing whether they could find any relationship between changes in gun ownership and murder using guns over time.

Since we know that violent crime rates overall declined during that period of time, the authors used something called “fixed effect regression” to account for any national trend other than changes in gun ownership. They also employed the largest-ever number of statistical controls for other variables in this kind of gun study: “age, gender, race/ethnicity, urbanization, poverty, unemployment, income, education, income inequality, divorce rate, alcohol use, violent crime rate, nonviolent crime rate, hate crime rate, number of hunting licenses, age-adjusted nonfirearm homicide rate, incarceration rate,and suicide rate” were all accounted for.

No good data on national rates of gun ownership exist (partly because of the NRA’s stranglehold on Congress), so the authors used the percentage of suicides that involve a firearm (FS/S) as a proxy. The theory, backed up by a wealth of data, is that the more guns there are any in any one place, the higher the percentage of people who commit suicide with guns as opposed to other mechanisms will be.

With all this preliminary work in hand, the authors ran a series of regressions to see what effect the overall national decline in firearm ownership from 1981 to 2010 had on gun homicides. The result was staggering: “for each 1 percentage point increase in proportion of household gun ownership,” Siegel et al. found, “firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9″ percent. A one standard deviation change in firearm ownership shifted gun murders by a staggering 12.9 percent.

To put this in perspective, take the state of Mississippi. “All other factors being equal,” the authors write, “our model would predict that if the FS/S in Mississippi were 57.7% (the average for all states) instead of 76.8% (the highest of all states), its firearm homicide rate would be 17% lower.” Since 475 people were murdered with a gun in Mississippi in 2010, that drop in gun ownership would translate to 80 lives saved in that year alone.

Of course, the authors don’t find that rates of gun ownership explain all of America’s gun violence epidemic: race, economic inequality and generally violent areas all contribute to an area’s propensity for gun deaths, suggesting that broader social inequality, not gun ownership alone, contributes to the gun violence epidemic. Nevertheless, the fact that gun ownership mattered even when race and poverty were accounted for suggests that we can’t avoid talking about America’s fascination with guns when debating what to do about the roughly 11,000 Americans who are yearly murdered by gunfire.

Largest Gun Study Ever: More Guns, More Murder | ThinkProgress

It does no such thing.

Yesterday the Annals of Internal Medicine published a meta-analysis of 15 studies that aimed to measure the relationship between gun ownership and the risk of suicide or homicide. Over all, University of California at San Francisco epidemiologist Andrew Anglemyer and his two co-authors found, people with access to guns were about three times as likely to kill themselves and about twice as likely to be killed as people without such access. The Daily Beast's Brandy Zadrozny says Anglemyer et al.'s study "has seemingly put an end to the debate" over whether owning a gun makes people more or less safe, "at least in terms of suicide and homicide." Not quite. Like the underlying studies, almost all of which started with suicide or homicide cases and matched them to "controls," the meta-analysis cannot tell us whether the observed relationships are causal and, if so, in which direction the causation runs. "Whether the presence of a firearm among case patients is the result of environmental characteristics or living conditions is unclear," the authors observe. "For example, some persons may purchase a firearm for protection because of neighborhood crime." If so, that same high crime rate would increase their chances of being killed, whether or not they owned guns. Similarly, a woman might buy a gun to protect herself against an abusive boyfriend or husband. If he ends up killing her, that does not necessarily mean buying the gun made her less safe. Rather, it was her vulnerability to violence that motivated her to buy the gun.
That scenario seems especially relevant given that Anglemyer and his colleagues found the risk of homicide victimization associated with owning a gun was much higher for women than for men. Among men, the additional risk was just 29 percent, while for women it was 184 percent. Suicide risk, by contrast, was somewhat higher for men than for women, for whom the additional risk associated with access to a gun was not statistically significant.

Does the Latest Study Finally Show That Owning a Gun Makes You Less Safe? - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Now that I have proved I can throw around quotes lets find out who can actually think.

Defend the study on the basis that guns in violent neighborhoods attract criminals.
 
"Guns save lives" is like saying "smoking cures cancer". If these people had a brain, they'd take it out and play with it.
 
"Guns save lives" is like saying "smoking cures cancer". If these people had a brain, they'd take it out and play with it.

So a person shooting a would be murderer is not saving their life?

A police officer taking down some skell drawing on them is not saving a life?
 
Here's the real stat.: 55% of gun related homicides in the US were 'Black on Black' in 2010. Blacks make up only 13% of the population.
Deal with the fact that Blacks score about 15 points lower in IQ than Whites but are living in an ever increasingly more 'dog-eat-dog' competitive world and you are looking at an entire race that can not keep up. All the best will in the world can't fix 'stupid' when it comes to making it in this world. The hand-outs disguised by any other name have not helped and they are drying up globally. Remember those adds meant to break our hearts about the plight of Blacks kids in Africa so we would send money to a bottomless pit and basically make millionaires of Black despots? Unless it's Christmas those ads are gone. Tell you something?
The fact that the 'Black' problem' never goes away ought to wise up people.

We get it. You hate black people. :eusa_whistle:
Apparently not as much as they hate themselves.
I was born in Cook County hospital. Lived in some VERY bad inner city areas. No one is in a position to tell me what a day in those sewers was like.
Virtually 100% of all the violent crimes are being committed by Blacks on Blacks in those sewers. Ask any Black in Africa who they hate the most. The answer is "American Blacks".
Illegal hand guns are the currency of choice. If you haven't possessed one by the the time you're fifteen you are 'prey' to those who have them.
What must it be like to be a Black preteen attempting to do well in school to be centered out for harassment and physical bullying by 'losers' who are determined that no Black in the community will succeed. That would focus the light on these thugs. The little kid has given up trying by age ten and succumbs to the gang culture.....just like the gangs wanted.
I witnessed this scenario hundreds of times. It's one of the reasons the Black race is failing. None of them want any Black to succeed.
How does the Black community react when one of their own attempts do speak truth? They call him an "Uncle Tom" and worse.
 

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