Mohammed Abu Khder

Was a 16 year old Palestinian teenager who's body was found partially burned.

But he was also a person and that seems to be forgotten in the political frenzy of blame.

Sadly, while the 3 Israeli boys who's were kidnapped and murdered have been mourned and prayed over - this boy seems to be overlooked. Instead, conspiracy theories abound - he was killed because he was homosexual...he is thin, must have had AIDS. Two different kidnappings and murders, and two different treatments.

Palestinian Teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir Mourned In Tense Jerusalem Funeral
Mr Abu Khdeir accused police of asking him "ridiculous things" about his son. "They asked how much his pocket money was, who were his friends, did he have any enemies, if somebody hated him," he said. "They even asked if he had been kidnapped before. They didn't bring up the subject of him being kidnapped by settlers and when I raised it, they said, why are you saying that. It's clear they wanted to put a lid on it."

In the hours after his death, rumours appeared on Twitter that Mohammed had been killed by fellow Palestinians as part of a criminal gang feud or by his own relatives in a so-called honour killing amid unsubstantiated suggestions that he was gay. His family have dismissed such assertions out of hand and insist that he had no criminal connections or history of being in trouble.

Really sad, especially when compared to the more respectful tone given to the murdered Israeli boys.

Why?

So who was he?

He was 16 years old. He wasn't some political pawn. He would have been like any teen - full of himself yet uncertain, cocky yet hesitant, full of life dreams an promises and ready to be independent yet not.

16, 17, 18, 19 - those are the years and times when people dream big but have little sense of their own mortality or how dangerous the world might be outside.

3 Israeli Jewish teens, 1 Palestinian teens who might have more in common with each other than they ever would have realized.


Family of slain Palestinian teen lives in Sacramento | News - KCRA Home
"The message from our community is clear, and also the Jewish community is clear -- that no children should suffer this conflict," said Basim Elkarra, of the Sacramento Valley chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"(He was) a 16-year-old kid, 90 pounds wet. I got a picture of me doing curls with him," Khdair said. "How's he going to defend himself? It had nothing to do with him."

The situation unfolded the day after funerals were held for the three young Israelis.

Their bodies were found Monday buried in a field in the West Bank.

His family said Khdeir was at the mosque near their home for a meal before sunrise, prior to a day of fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. That's when relatives said men pulled up asking for directions, quickly grabbed the teen and drove away.

The family said he was tortured.

"He was beaten and then stabbed and then lit on fire," Abu Khdair said. "He must have been so scared."


Dead Palestinian boy?s Sacramento relatives speak - SFGate Blog
“He loved to tell jokes and riddles; he was never serious. In all the pictures we have of him he was making a goofy face,” Wadha Abukhdeir, the boy’s first cousin, told the Sacramento Bee.
He was killed by Israeli settlers.

There are roving bands of vigilante settlers going around trying to get revenge for the 3 slain teenagers.

The Palestinian's brother was beaten up and stabbed by one of these bands. And when he went to the local Israeli authorities to file a complaint, they treated him like he had been the one to commit the crime. They told him, he probably owed them money.

He's unconscious in a hospital right now and the Israeli's have chained him to the bed.
 
Was a 16 year old Palestinian teenager who's body was found partially burned.

But he was also a person and that seems to be forgotten in the political frenzy of blame.

Sadly, while the 3 Israeli boys who's were kidnapped and murdered have been mourned and prayed over - this boy seems to be overlooked. Instead, conspiracy theories abound - he was killed because he was homosexual...he is thin, must have had AIDS. Two different kidnappings and murders, and two different treatments.

Palestinian Teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir Mourned In Tense Jerusalem Funeral
Mr Abu Khdeir accused police of asking him "ridiculous things" about his son. "They asked how much his pocket money was, who were his friends, did he have any enemies, if somebody hated him," he said. "They even asked if he had been kidnapped before. They didn't bring up the subject of him being kidnapped by settlers and when I raised it, they said, why are you saying that. It's clear they wanted to put a lid on it."

In the hours after his death, rumours appeared on Twitter that Mohammed had been killed by fellow Palestinians as part of a criminal gang feud or by his own relatives in a so-called honour killing amid unsubstantiated suggestions that he was gay. His family have dismissed such assertions out of hand and insist that he had no criminal connections or history of being in trouble.

Really sad, especially when compared to the more respectful tone given to the murdered Israeli boys.

Why?

So who was he?

He was 16 years old. He wasn't some political pawn. He would have been like any teen - full of himself yet uncertain, cocky yet hesitant, full of life dreams an promises and ready to be independent yet not.

16, 17, 18, 19 - those are the years and times when people dream big but have little sense of their own mortality or how dangerous the world might be outside.

3 Israeli Jewish teens, 1 Palestinian teens who might have more in common with each other than they ever would have realized.


Family of slain Palestinian teen lives in Sacramento | News - KCRA Home



Dead Palestinian boy?s Sacramento relatives speak - SFGate Blog
“He loved to tell jokes and riddles; he was never serious. In all the pictures we have of him he was making a goofy face,” Wadha Abukhdeir, the boy’s first cousin, told the Sacramento Bee.
He was killed by Israeli settlers.

There are roving bands of vigilante settlers going around trying to get revenge for the 3 slain teenagers.

The Palestinian's brother was beaten up and stabbed by one of these bands. And when he went to the local Israeli authorities to file a complaint, they treated him like he had been the one to commit the crime. They told him, he probably owed them money.

He's unconscious in a hospital right now and the Israeli's have chained him to the bed.

I don't know where you get most of your marginal facts --- but a link would be real good.
What is NOT NEEDED right now is propaganda or rumor or hate speech..
 
In a different world, they might have been friends. Instead their lives were stolen before they ever had a chance :(

And there goes reality.

If all the extremist fools were to bugger off to planet Zog, the rest of us could live in peace, without all this shit.
 
I don't know where you get most of your marginal facts --- but a link would be real good.
What is NOT NEEDED right now is propaganda or rumor or hate speech..
Why should I provide a link, when you're just going to marginalize it?

But since you asked...
Gangs of Israeli Vigilantes Roam Streets Attacking Palestinians

Violence targeting Palestinians has skyrocketed since the bodies of three Israeli teens were found.

Mousa Abu Ayadeh says that he expects anti-Arab discrimination in Israel. But he never imagined he would be the victim of a violent vigilante attack, as he was on June 30.

Abu Ayadeh told AlterNet he “was beaten and stabbed by ten Israeli men.” He suspects the crime was in retaliation for the killing of three Israeli youth who had been kidnapped on June 12 and were found dead just a few hours before he was attacked.

After getting out of the hospital the following day, Abu Ayadeh went to the nearby town of Petah Tikvah to file a police report. Yet rather than being assisted, he accuses Israeli police and intelligence officers of interrogating him.

“The [police interrogators] accused me of having done something wrong first,” he said. “They said that I maybe owed someone money or that I had attacked someone in the past. I’ve never had problems with anyone in my whole life.”

Abu Ayadeh also says that Israeli intelligence officers repeatedly “asked if I carry weapons. I told the police and the intelligence [officers] to go check the traffic cameras in the roundabout where I was attacked… but they told me it didn’t seem to be anything other than personal problems and sent me home.”

When asked for a comment, Israeli police spokesperson Micky Rosenfeld said, “there is no indication any incidents in the area involved Jewish settlers.”
I don't sit around making stuff up.

Though Israeli police authorities investigate vigilante violence and price-tag attacks, Palestinian, Israeli and international human rights groups say there are rarely results. A July 2013 report published by the Israeli human rights group Yesh Din found that more than 90 percent of the investigations into violence by Israeli civilians against Palestinians in the West Bank “were closed without an indictment being served against the suspects.”
But it does piss me off when people try to marginalize Israeli brutality.

Especially, when it is happening on such a systemic level.
 
His family was known to the police before the boy's tragic death. His mother and father gave different statements to the police, his father blaming Israeli Arabs and his mother blaming it on Jewish settlers.

Did you miss this Amity?

Noone believes Zionist police, they are liars.

And I don't believe you either.
 
There is a video of the murdered boy being kidnapped by Zionist settlers.

Security cameras captured his kidnapping by settlers.

Watch "Murdered palestinian teen was 'burned alive'" on YouTube
Murdered palestinian teen was 'burned alive':
 
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Link us to it if you can, please. Thanks. I read witness accounts that were enough to persuade me this was almost certainly NOT an honor killing, but didn't know there even was a video.

One thing makes me even sadder than the thought that he died because he was Palestinian, and that is that they probably singled him out because he was tiny and would be unable to defend himself.
 
A boy is murdered and because he is not Jewish, there is no demand for justice, no sorrow, no photos demanding "never again".

There is not even acknowledgement that this 16 year old was robbed of his future.

Simply. Wow.

I'm beyond disgusted.

Your context is not clear. If you meant on this board - that isn't accurate.

If you meant in the Israeli press - that isn't accurate either.

And I find it curious that you seem to have ignored the many examples of "Palestinians" celebrating and gloating over the kidnapping of Eyal, Gilad and Naftali. It is looking -from this one post! - as though your 'beyond disgust' is quite selective, which of course is your privilege and your decision...... I am hoping this one post above has been worded poorly or that I've misunderstood it : ((
 
Video surveillance in the street recorded the kidnapping, but the Israeli authorities have not released it. It's addressed in the You Tube video. And it's reported the same car was used before that incident in an attempt to kidnap another Palestinian.

Link us to it if you can, please. Thanks. I read witness accounts that were enough to persuade me this was almost certainly NOT an honor killing, but didn't know there even was a video.

One thing makes me even sadder than the thought that he died because he was Palestinian, and that is that they probably singled him out because he was tiny and would be unable to defend himself.
 
A boy is murdered and because he is not Jewish, there is no demand for justice, no sorrow, no photos demanding "never again".

There is not even acknowledgement that this 16 year old was robbed of his future.

Simply. Wow.

I'm beyond disgusted.

Your context is not clear. If you meant on this board - that isn't accurate.

If you meant in the Israeli press - that isn't accurate either.

And I find it curious that you seem to have ignored the many examples of "Palestinians" celebrating and gloating over the kidnapping of Eyal, Gilad and Naftali. It is looking -from this one post! - as though your 'beyond disgust' is quite selective, which of course is your privilege and your decision...... I am hoping this one post above has been worded poorly or that I've misunderstood it : ((

All that hot air and righteous indignation and you STILL didn't evince the simple humanity that Coyote is looking for. That IS beyond disgusting.
 
UPDATE: Electronic Intifada has published a video displaying the faces of the likely Israeli killers of Mohemad Abu Khdeir. *They appear to be quite young, possibly around the same age (22) as the Palestinian killers of the three Israeli teens.

Tikun olam
 
More reports by blogger Richard Silverstein.

"Despite a gag order on details of the killing, details are beginning to emerge. *We already know that Abu Khdeir was burned alive by his torturer-murderers. *Now Nana reports that security forces have confirmed the killers were radical Jewish terrorists. * Because of the gag, Nana treads delicately. *But it does say that certain details known to the Shabak point to this being a “nationalist” crime (Hebrew code for “Jewish terror”). *It also notes that the IDF has been enlisted to take part in the pursuit of the killers. *Involvement of the IDF in the crime implies the search has entered the West Bank (the military would not be involved in solving a crime within the Green Line) and that the terrorists are being harbored in a radical West Bank settlement. *I said from the beginning they’d be found in Yitzhar or a place like it."

Video of Border Police Beating Cousin of Martyred Palestinian Boy, Authorities Pursuing Israeli Suspects in Abu Khdeir Murder Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-????? ????
 
Israel's gag orders on their press do not apply to Americans, we can talk about this crime all we want.
 
Video of the kidnapping of the murdered Palestinian boy can also be viewed in the article below in The Telegraph.

Video: Revealed: CCTV shows moment Palestinian boy is kidnapped before being killed - Telegraph

Video obtained by The Telegraph shows the moment 16-year-old Mohammed Abu Khdeir was bundled into a car in Jerusalem - only to be found dead hours later. Video with voice-over by Quique Kierszenbaum

"Dramatic new footage has emerged that may show the moment when an Arab youth was abducted from the streets of an East Jerusalem neighbourhood before later being found murdered."

The 10-minute video was shot from a CCTV security camera and it shows 16-year-old Mohammed Abu Khdeir being approached by two men and then forcibly pushed into a car.

"While images in the film are indistinct, the Abu Khdeir family say they provide vital evidence of his abduction before his body was found burned in a Jerusalem forest in what they believe was a revenge killing by Right-wing*Israelis*in retribution for the abduction and murder of three Jewish teenagers, suspected to be the work of*Palestinian*militants. The video - shot from a camera inside a shop across the street from where Mohammed is believed to have been sitting - shows what appears to be a light coloured car drive past a row of shops in the Shuafat neigbourhood. Although his outline is hard to determine in the video, the teenager's relatives say he is sitting on the steps outside one shop. The car then reverses up the street and out of the frame before two men are seen approaching the area on foot where he is believed to have been sitting and appearing to start a conversation."....
 
Was a 16 year old Palestinian teenager who's body was found partially burned.

But he was also a person and that seems to be forgotten in the political frenzy of blame.

Sadly, while the 3 Israeli boys who's were kidnapped and murdered have been mourned and prayed over - this boy seems to be overlooked. Instead, conspiracy theories abound - he was killed because he was homosexual...he is thin, must have had AIDS. Two different kidnappings and murders, and two different treatments.

Palestinian Teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir Mourned In Tense Jerusalem Funeral
Mr Abu Khdeir accused police of asking him "ridiculous things" about his son. "They asked how much his pocket money was, who were his friends, did he have any enemies, if somebody hated him," he said. "They even asked if he had been kidnapped before. They didn't bring up the subject of him being kidnapped by settlers and when I raised it, they said, why are you saying that. It's clear they wanted to put a lid on it."

In the hours after his death, rumours appeared on Twitter that Mohammed had been killed by fellow Palestinians as part of a criminal gang feud or by his own relatives in a so-called honour killing amid unsubstantiated suggestions that he was gay. His family have dismissed such assertions out of hand and insist that he had no criminal connections or history of being in trouble.

Really sad, especially when compared to the more respectful tone given to the murdered Israeli boys.

Why?

So who was he?

He was 16 years old. He wasn't some political pawn. He would have been like any teen - full of himself yet uncertain, cocky yet hesitant, full of life dreams an promises and ready to be independent yet not.

16, 17, 18, 19 - those are the years and times when people dream big but have little sense of their own mortality or how dangerous the world might be outside.

3 Israeli Jewish teens, 1 Palestinian teens who might have more in common with each other than they ever would have realized.


Family of slain Palestinian teen lives in Sacramento | News - KCRA Home
"The message from our community is clear, and also the Jewish community is clear -- that no children should suffer this conflict," said Basim Elkarra, of the Sacramento Valley chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"(He was) a 16-year-old kid, 90 pounds wet. I got a picture of me doing curls with him," Khdair said. "How's he going to defend himself? It had nothing to do with him."

The situation unfolded the day after funerals were held for the three young Israelis.

Their bodies were found Monday buried in a field in the West Bank.

His family said Khdeir was at the mosque near their home for a meal before sunrise, prior to a day of fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. That's when relatives said men pulled up asking for directions, quickly grabbed the teen and drove away.

The family said he was tortured.

"He was beaten and then stabbed and then lit on fire," Abu Khdair said. "He must have been so scared."


Dead Palestinian boy?s Sacramento relatives speak - SFGate Blog
“He loved to tell jokes and riddles; he was never serious. In all the pictures we have of him he was making a goofy face,” Wadha Abukhdeir, the boy’s first cousin, told the Sacramento Bee.

Muslim extremism claims one more life, eh?

You Muslim & Palestinian guys really should do something about this problem of yours.

Recognize Israel's right to exist in peace and your lives will get better very quickly.

Try it.

You'll like it.

Otherwise, stop your bitchin.
 
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A boy is murdered and because he is not Jewish, there is no demand for justice, no sorrow, no photos demanding "never again".

There is not even acknowledgement that this 16 year old was robbed of his future.

Simply. Wow.

I'm beyond disgusted.

Your context is not clear. If you meant on this board - that isn't accurate.

If you meant in the Israeli press - that isn't accurate either.

And I find it curious that you seem to have ignored the many examples of "Palestinians" celebrating and gloating over the kidnapping of Eyal, Gilad and Naftali. It is looking -from this one post! - as though your 'beyond disgust' is quite selective, which of course is your privilege and your decision...... I am hoping this one post above has been worded poorly or that I've misunderstood it : ((

All that hot air and righteous indignation and you STILL didn't evince the simple humanity that Coyote is looking for. That IS beyond disgusting.

What a pity that Hostility can't understand plain English - or look through my posts to see what I've ALREADY said about this tragedy. Or let Coyote read and respond for herself.

Just gotta try to boss everyone all the time, don't you? ; )
 
CAIR Claims American Teen Visiting Jerusalem Attacked by Israeli Defense Forces — But Reason High Schooler Traveled There May Surprise You

Jul. 6, 2014 12:25am

Tariq Khdeir, 15, was attending a demonstration related to the death of his cousin, Mohammed Abu Khdeir, a 16-year-old Arab who was killed reportedly in revenge for the three dead Israeli teens who were abducted in the West Bank last month.

[...]

johnadamsinvisiblehand -Jul. 6, 2014 at 1:06am

Perhaps someone can tell me why the State Department intervenes on behalf of this little jihadist, but the State Department will not intervene on behalf of Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi who is still wrongfully jailed in Mexico (and has been beaten and tortured more than this little punk). Obama cares more about jihadists than marines, and is more critical of Israel than corrupt Mexico.

CAIR Claims American Teen Visiting Jerusalem Attacked by Israeli Defense Forces ? But Reason High Schooler Traveled There May Surprise You | Video | TheBlaze.com
 
I'm not thinking blame Hossfly, in fact - blame seems to be overriding the fact that these murdered kids were individuals.

That seems to be overlooked - even to the point of smearing their character.

I've been trying to get away from posting because the inhumanity of this conflict is nauseating...The atrocities by both sides is standard behavior...The hate created will in the end in silence for Zionism because it has become the cause for stirring up Islamic anger which has created the Arab Spring, this is only the beginning...Killing of those poor boys on both sides is proof enough of what the future brings...

This conflict of hate has stirred a war with Islam. I think its too late for peace...
 
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