Modest proposal: Drop all history courses from K-12 and replace with STEM courses.

[MarathonMike]

I had an interesting discussion with SuperBadBrutha on CRT and he brought up a very valid point. My point was any CRT related course would likely be biased by the person teaching it. He pointed out that the exact same thing happens in teaching traditional history. I had to agree that was at least possible, if not likely. So my proposal would be to drop history courses altogether and replace them with math or science related courses. Also consider that school kids today are over a year behind where they should be in reading, writing and math. This would help pull the kids back where they need to be in the skills that will propel them through life and their careers. I'm not saying history is unimportant, but it is not as important as the fundamentals where the kids are woefully behind where they need to be.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I had an interesting discussion with SuperBadBrutha on CRT and he brought up a very valid point. My point was any CRT related course would likely be biased by the person teaching it. He pointed out that the exact same thing happens in teaching traditional history. I had to agree that was at least possible, if not likely. So my proposal would be to drop history courses altogether and replace them with math or science related courses. Also consider that school kids today are over a year behind where they should be in reading, writing and math. This would help pull the kids back where they need to be in the skills that will propel them through life and their careers. I'm not saying history is unimportant, but it is not as important as the fundamentals where the kids are woefully behind where they need to be.

People need to understand history. To what extent is debatable.

 

[Manonthestreet]

People need to understand history. To what extent is debatable.

Yes lets turn out more kids that dont know the sacrifice others made so they can be free and responsibilities that entails so when they lose it they wont know what they lost.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Yes lets turn out more kids that dont know the sacrifice others made so they can be free and responsibilities that entails so when they lose it they wont know what they lost.

I think we are in agreement. No?

 

[Manonthestreet]

I think we are in agreement. No?

Sort of

 

[MarathonMike]

People need to understand history. To what extent is debatable.

Like I said, I'm not saying history is unimportant but given the current fight over traditional history and CRT/1619 based history and how far behind US kids are in the basics, replacing with STEM courses seems a good option.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Utah Educators and Union Officials Caught Boasting of Secretly Teaching CRT

pjmedia.com

 

[MarathonMike]

Utah Educators and Union Officials Caught Boasting of Secretly Teaching CRT

pjmedia.com

Yes, they are being sneaky about it, but they are still teaching it. Note how similar this is to "Gain Of Function" research with viruses. It's still going on, but they've renamed it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I had an interesting discussion with SuperBadBrutha on CRT and he brought up a very valid point. My point was any CRT related course would likely be biased by the person teaching it. He pointed out that the exact same thing happens in teaching traditional history. I had to agree that was at least possible, if not likely. So my proposal would be to drop history courses altogether and replace them with math or science related courses. Also consider that school kids today are over a year behind where they should be in reading, writing and math. This would help pull the kids back where they need to be in the skills that will propel them through life and their careers. I'm not saying history is unimportant, but it is not as important as the fundamentals where the kids are woefully behind where they need to be.

Yes, you are.

 

[Innocynioc]

Santayanna quote, "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. George Santayana"

 

[MarathonMike]

Santayanna quote, "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. George Santayana"

You can learn history yourself, it's the easiest subject there is.

 

[Woodznutz]

Like I said, I'm not saying history is unimportant but given the current fight over traditional history and CRT/1619 based history and how far behind US kids are in the basics, replacing with STEM courses seems a good option.

Better to drop music and sports (they can be privately funded and coached after school hours and on weekends. This will free up money that can be used to hire better teachers.
Whites can be taught traditional white history, blacks, black history. Everyone is happy.

 

[MarathonMike]

Better to drop music and sports (they can be privately funded and coached after school hours and on weekends. This will free up money that can be used to hire better teachers.
Whites can be taught traditional white history, blacks, black history. Everyone is happy.

I respectfully disagree. My proposal is to help students catch up on their lagging skills in the basics without much downside. Your suggestion would not help in that regard and create even more racial division.

 

[Unkotare]

History is part of "the basics."

 

[Woodznutz]

I respectfully disagree. My proposal is to help students catch up on their lagging skills in the basics without much downside. Your suggestion would not help in that regard and create even more racial division.

That was also my proposal. Sports, music, and alternate history aren't 'basics'.

 

[Woodznutz]

History is part of "the basics."

History isn't being taught now. Why start.

 

[Unkotare]

That was also my proposal. Sports, music, and alternate history aren't 'basics'.

Physical education has been part of education since the ancient Greeks.

 

[Unkotare]

History isn't being taught now. ....

Yes it is.

 

[Woodznutz]

Physical education has been part of education since the ancient Greeks.

Then why are we in such terrible physical condition?

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes it is.

Poorly.

Based on the product it turns out the education system has some serious problems.