Modern physics is not science

[rupol2000]

Natural science is that which adheres to scientific methodology.
Scientific methodology was put forward by the positivists as a counterbalance to the speculative dogmatism of the church.

The first requirement is that a scientific law is not a dogma, but a pattern derived from experience - a generalization of experience.

Modern physics is not based on the scientific method.

 

[JoeMoma]

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

I'm no scientist, but I would assume no one can change the qualities and equations of physics.

Unless you're a DementocRat.



I looked up what #freecain is...........

#FREECAIN

 

[MisterBeale]

You should read some of this troll's other OP's.

95% of this person's threads belong in the badlands. . . IMO.

They only reason I click on them? Is to gauge the collective intelligence of the forum, to actually see how many posts it takes for someone to call out the bullshit.

This? This is an historic record.

ONE.

 

[xband]

Natural science is that which adheres to scientific methodology.
Scientific methodology was put forward by the positivists as a counterbalance to the speculative dogmatism of the church.

The first requirement is that a scientific law is not a dogma, but a pattern derived from experience - a generalization of experience.

Modern physics is not based on the scientific method.

Quod erat demonstrandm or QED, a scientific proof. Ipso facto, a scientific fact. Lack of peer review got CERN made a fool of.

 

[flacaltenn]

Natural science is that which adheres to scientific methodology.
Scientific methodology was put forward by the positivists as a counterbalance to the speculative dogmatism of the church.

The first requirement is that a scientific law is not a dogma, but a pattern derived from experience - a generalization of experience.

Modern physics is not based on the scientific method.

There are a lot of science disciplines that I'd rather chastise for lack of evidence/measurement. Like psychology for instance -- rather than physics.

You KNOW that's why there's empirical Physics and "Theoretical Physics". No one can prevent scientists from GUESSING about what cant be known. And in fact, it's USEFUL to have that luxury.

empirical Physics is DEFINATELY a science. Theoretical Physics has some "provable" methodology and a lot of mental modeling of the unprovable.

 

[Ringtone]

Natural science is that which adheres to scientific methodology.
Scientific methodology was put forward by the positivists as a counterbalance to the speculative dogmatism of the church.

The first requirement is that a scientific law is not a dogma, but a pattern derived from experience - a generalization of experience.

Modern physics is not based on the scientific method.

Positivism itself is philosophical mumbo-jumbo. Metaphysics necessarily precedes and has primacy over science.

 

[MisterBeale]

Just two OP's ago. . . this poster claimed that Elon Musk was a Chinese Communist. This poster never responds to threads, only starts B.S. forum trolling garbage.

Maybe it is a bot? Perhaps it isn't even alive? Perhaps it is a Russian controlled date mining algorithm?

 

[rupol2000]

Positivism itself is philosophical mumbo-jumbo

Apparently you are confusing positivism with modern "physics"

This is a description of a scientific methodology that sharply separated ecclesiastical and mathematical speculation from natural science. It is a reliable tool for reliable knowledge.

 

[rupol2000]

Just two OP's ago. . . this poster claimed that Elon Musk was a Chinese Communist. This poster never responds to threads, only starts B.S. forum trolling garbage.

Maybe it is a bot? Perhaps it isn't even alive? Perhaps it is a Russian controlled date mining algorithm?

Don't worry, they won't get anything out of your empty head anyway.

 

[rupol2000]

There are a lot of science disciplines that I'd rather chastise for lack of evidence/measurement. Like psychology for instance -- rather than physics.

You KNOW that's why there's empirical Physics and "Theoretical Physics". No one can prevent scientists from GUESSING about what cant be known. And in fact, it's USEFUL to have that luxury.

empirical Physics is DEFINATELY a science. Theoretical Physics has some "provable" methodology and a lot of mental modeling of the unprovable.

It would be desirable if they directly said that their theoretical physics is only guesswork. Then there would be no questions.

But what is also confusing here is that these are not just random guesses and sweet chatter, but some kind of construction of a modern model of ancient atomism.

 

[rupol2000]

Positivism itself is philosophical mumbo-jumbo. Metaphysics necessarily precedes and has primacy over science.

What is metaphysics? Church mumbo-jumbo?

 

[toobfreak]

Natural science is that which adheres to scientific methodology.
Scientific methodology was put forward by the positivists as a counterbalance to the speculative dogmatism of the church.
The first requirement is that a scientific law is not a dogma, but a pattern derived from experience - a generalization of experience.
Modern physics is not based on the scientific method.

Dead wrong right out of the gate, Ace. Don'tcha just love it when idiots make up their own definitions and terminology as they proceed to inform us how all the rest of the world is confused.

 

[toobfreak]

Theoretical Physics has some "provable" methodology and a lot of mental modeling of the unprovable.

Well of course. It's purpose is to speculate on that which is just around the corner by extrapolating from the known and proven.

 

[rupol2000]

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If they are so sure of "metaphysics", let them drink pills tested by metaphysical testing methods, instead of those that have been clinically tested.

 

[MisterBeale]

Apparently you are confusing positivism with modern "physics"

This is a description of a scientific methodology that sharply separated ecclesiastical and mathematical speculation from natural science. It is a reliable tool for reliable knowledge.

Don't worry, they won't get anything out of your empty head anyway.

It would be desirable if they directly said that their theoretical physics is only guesswork. Then there would be no questions.

But what is also confusing here is that these are not just random guesses and sweet chatter, but some kind of construction of a modern model of ancient atomism.

What is metaphysics? Church mumbo-jumbo?

 

[rupol2000]

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Logic gives the correct result when the premises are valid. Where does metaphysics get reliable premises if it is not based on empirical data?

 

[Ringtone]

Apparently you are confusing positivism with modern "physics"

This is a description of a scientific methodology that sharply separated ecclesiastical and mathematical speculation from natural science. It is a reliable tool for reliable knowledge.

LOL! I'd be willing to bet real money that I've read and written more about positivism (or logical positivism) during any one of my last ten years than you have in your entire life.

Positivism, in the sense that you are using the term, is the philosophical school of thought that holds that every rationally justifiable assertion can be scientifically verified or can be logically/mathematically proven, howbeit, as if metaphysics were preceded by science. That's silly.

Once again and more accurately, the imperatives of logic, and mathematics, and the first principles of metaphysics necessarily precede and has primacy over science. Emperical data does not interpret itself; minds interpret empirical data!

Positivism would have sceintists stupidly beg the question, presuppose ontological naturalism, and thereby arbitarily limit the scope of scientific investigtion and justification.

 

[Ringtone]

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Logic gives the correct result when the premises are valid. Where does metaphysics get reliable premises if it is not based on empirical data?

You're asking the wrong question.

 

[Hollie]

Positivism itself is philosophical mumbo-jumbo. Metaphysics necessarily precedes and has primacy over science.

Metaphysics, like astrology, has no primacy over science.