Minneapolis Police Chief: "It has absolutely become an unlawful assembly."

Because his actions hindered their operations pursuant to the Mn law I posted when you asked earlier.

I am honest. The law doesn’t align with your feelings and that makes you think everyone else is dishonest.
Where in any part of the story did it say he was even fingerprinted at all?

His identity was not at issue or at question. He never hindered anyone.

He never broke the law.

He was illegally arrested, not detained.

Your own citations fail to back you up and in fact confirm that it was an arrest. But you edit out that part of my reply because it’s necessary for you to ignore it.
 
There is no right to protest, but a right: 'peaceably to assemble'.

That is why large protests can be made to get permits, per SCOTUS rulings.
Great point, and if one person in that crowd goes beyond 'peaceful assembly' the entire 'protest' is over......
 
His identity was not at issue or at question. He never hindered anyone.

He never broke the law.

He was illegally arrested, not detained.

Your own citations fail to back you up and in fact confirm that it was an arrest.
LOL.......I knew you were baiting..........LOL TM
 
Which child rapist was arrested and released by a local police organization?
Rick Martinez Lopez

Gilberto Avila-Jara

Nicol Alexandra Contreras-Suare

Stiven De Paz-Munoz,
Billy Erney Buitrago-Bustos
Alexandre Romao De Oliveira

How many more do you want?
 
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It wouldn't be up to the police.

There's quite a few. Three in my first link.

WASHINGTON – Today the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) reminds Americans of the facts after Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey gave an interview this morning in which he failed to take responsibility for his sanctuary policies that RELEASE criminal illegal aliens from jails, including violent criminals, and put them back in American neighborhoods.

Seven more in this link:

None of them cite being released from a police station as a known criminal. You are arguing that local police are releasing criminals and I havent seen you support that - just flooding the thread with the fact that criminals exist. We are not debating that criminals exist in the world. If they have a warrant for a crime they would be held like any other criminal. Are you paying attention to the debate here pal??
 
Because his actions hindered their operations pursuant to the Mn law I posted when you asked earlier.

I am honest. The law doesn’t align with your feelings and that makes you think everyone else is

His identity was not at issue or at question. He never hindered anyone.

He never broke the law.

He was illegally arrested, not detained.

Your own citations fail to back you up and in fact confirm that it was an arrest.
Following and placing yourself in close proximity to police actions hinders those operations. Follow your local cops and close within their operational space and film it.

I have posted a Federal Law and case law and highlighted the relevant portions in this thread.

You have posted Hayes vs Florida which speaks to taking someone known in and undertaking investigatory actions absent a formal arrest.

Not taking someone in to verify their identity and intent then releasing them without charges.
 
Following and placing yourself in close proximity to police actions hinders those operations. Follow your local cops and close within their operational space and film it.
There was no police action. They were driving around the area. Nothing was hindered.
I have posted a Federal Law and case law and highlighted the relevant portions in this thread.
Theyre not relevant. You bizarrely brought up fingerprinting someone which had absolutely nothing to do with the situation. There was no investigation of a crime for which they needed his fingerprints. His identity is confirmed by getting his drivers license, but they already knew who he was because they lead him directly to his own ******* house.
You have posted Hayes vs Florida which speaks to taking someone known in and undertaking investigatory actions absent a formal arrest.
Yes, taking someone in for investigatory actions constitutes an arrest.
Not taking someone in to verify their identity and intent then releasing them without charges.
So what you’re saying is they took him in for investigatory actions. Remind me, doesn’t that constitute and arrest?
 
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There was no police action. They were driving around the area. Nothing was hindered.

Theyre not relevant. You bizarrely brought up fingerprinting someone which had absolutely nothing to do with the situation. There was no investigation of a crime for which they needed his fingerprints.

Yes, taking someone in for investigatory actions constitutes an arrest.

So what you’re saying is they took him in for investigatory actions. Remind me, doesn’t that constitute and arrest?
ICE outside their Federal installation and traveling around MN are engaged in active operations.

They didn’t detain him to investigate a crime - they verified his identity and likely if he had warrants which is done with ID and fingerprinting. Then they released him hours later.

Hindering law enforcement is a crime in MN as was showed to you earlier.

When will you be posting video of you following and closing in on your local LE?
 
ICE outside their Federal installation and traveling around MN are engaged in active operations.
Completely nonsensical. That would imply they can arrest anyone who happens to pull up next to them at a red light. It’s gibberish.
They didn’t detain him to investigate a crime - they verified his identity and likely if he had warrants which is done with ID and fingerprinting. Then they released him hours later.
You’re making this up entirely. They arrested him because they thought he was committing a crime of obstruction by following them around.

But he wasn’t.
Hindering law enforcement is a crime in MN as was showed to you earlier.
Good thing he wasn’t hindering anyone.
When will you be posting video of you following and closing in on your local LE?
When will you be honest?
 
None of them cite being released from a police station as a known criminal. You are arguing that local police are releasing criminals and I havent seen you support that - just flooding the thread with the fact that criminals exist. We are not debating that criminals exist in the world. If they have a warrant for a crime they would be held like any other criminal. Are you paying attention to the debate here pal??
Please show where I said local police are releasing those people from jail. I never said or implied that.
 
Completely nonsensical. That would imply they can arrest anyone who happens to pull up next to them at a red light. It’s gibberish.

You’re making this up entirely. They arrested him because they thought he was committing a crime of obstruction by following them around.

But he wasn’t.

Good thing he wasn’t hindering anyone.

When will you be honest?
Had the imaginary person who pulled up next to them at the red light been following them and hindering their operations?

Look at the Good video many cars pass ICE in close proximity. The one impeding them got the attention. Thousands of people protest surround and film ICE daily. The ones who hinder and jeopardize officer safety get loved tenderly.

I have posted laws and showed how your one posted law is not analogous.
 
Had the imaginary person who pulled up next to them at the red light been following them and hindering their operations?
Following someone is not hindering them. They are free to continue about their business unimpeded.
Look at the Good video many cars pass ICE in close proximity. The one impeding them got the attention. Thousands of people protest surround and film ICE daily. The ones who hinder and jeopardize officer safety get loved tenderly.
Good thing he wasn’t hindering anyone.
I have posted laws and showed how your one posted law is not analogous.
If you truly believe that, you’re probably delusional.

Your own citations indicate he was arrested, something which you repeatedly denied.

The facts of the case clearly indicate that they arrested him because they thought he was obstructing them, but he wasn’t.
 
Rick Martinez Lopez

Gilberto Avila-Jara

Nicol Alexandra Contreras-Suare

Stiven De Paz-Munoz,
Billy Erney Buitrago-Bustos
Alexandre Romao De Oliveira

How many more do you want?
citygator The crickets are deafening.
 
Following someone is not hindering them. They are free to continue about their business unimpeded.

Good thing he wasn’t hindering anyone.

If you truly believe that, you’re probably delusional.

Your own citations indicate he was arrested, something which you repeatedly denied.

The facts of the case clearly indicate that they arrested him because they thought he was obstructing them, but he wasn’t.
Following them then parking close to them where they have to divert officer focus to deal with you is hindering.

Actually I posted case law that upheld the detaining for verification of identity even absent probable cause is legal.

The repeated delusional slight is probably not a good look arguing a legal case. But your feelings have taken over. Very Soverign Citizen-like
 
Following them then parking close to them where they have to divert officer focus to deal with you is hindering.

Actually I posted case law that upheld the detaining for verification of identity even absent probable cause is legal.

The repeated delusional slight is probably not a good look arguing a legal case. But your feelings have taken over. Very Soverign Citizen-like
In no way shape or form did he force them to “deal” with him.

They didn’t detain him to identify him. They knew exactly who he was. They led him directly to his own house. They approached his vehicle twice before arresting him including taking a photo of his face. Nor does it require 8 hours of detention to do. Finally, he’s not suspected of being an illegal alien so there’s no reason to identify him anyway. You’re inventing a reason for his arrest which is baseless.
 
Following them then parking close to them where they have to divert officer focus to deal with you is hindering.

Actually I posted case law that upheld the detaining for verification of identity even absent probable cause is legal.
Following them then parking close to them where they have to divert officer focus to deal with you is hindering.

Actually I posted case law that upheld the detaining for verification of identity even absent probable cause is legal.

In no way shape or form did he force them to “deal” with him.

They didn’t detain him to identify him. They knew exactly who he was. They led him directly to his own house. They approached his vehicle twice before arresting him including taking a photo of his face. Nor does it require 8 hours of detention to do. Finally, he’s not suspected of being an illegal alien so there’s no reason to identify him anyway. You’re inventing a reason for his arrest which is baseless.
I see with your inside info

What happened when they approached his vehicle twice?

Betcha there is some discovery to had there barrister.
 
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I see with your inside info

What happened when they approached his vehicle twice?

Betcha there is some discovery to had there barrister.

First time they took his photo. Second time they said they’d arrest him if he continue to follow. The last time they yanked him out of the car saying he was breaking “a lot of laws”.
 

First time they took his photo. Second time they said they’d arrest him if he continue to follow. The last time they yanked him out of the car saying he was breaking “a lot of laws”.
After he parked near them and hindered thier operations. By your description they had to interact with him twice to get him to back off. Give space. He didn’t and they felt they needed to detain him to find out who he was.

Protest all you won’t but stay back.
 

First time they took his photo. Second time they said they’d arrest him if he continue to follow. The last time they yanked him out of the car saying he was breaking “a lot of laws”.
Your news link says they didn’t arrest him they detained him. Another of your completely debunked as I said.
 
After he parked near them and hindered thier operations. By your description they had to interact with him twice to get him to back off. Give space. He didn’t and they felt they needed to detain him to find out who he was.

Protest all you won’t but stay back.
They knew who he was.

He wasn’t detained to get his identity.

He was arrested because he was following them.

Which isn’t a crime.

And he wasn’t charged.

So everything ICE did was unlawful.
 

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