Military is Racist, SPLC Says

[William Joyce]

"Civil Rights" group beloved by media...

Congress asked to address racism in military - Military- msnbc.com

Spies on Internet postings...

WASHINGTON - One of the country's main monitors of hate groups asked Congress Friday to investigate possible racial extremism in the military, after finding U.S. service members participating in a social networking site advertised as being for white people only.

Researchers from the Southern Poverty Law Center, based in Montgomery, Ala., identified about 40 personal profiles of people who list the military as their occupation on the Web site New Saxon, according to the group's founder, Morris Dees.

The site, run by the Detroit-based National Socialist Movement, describes itself as an "online community for whites by whites." He said some of the participants are wearing military uniforms in profile photos, although it was not possible to verify whether any of them are actually serving in the armed forces.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"Civil Rights" group beloved by media...

Congress asked to address racism in military - Military- msnbc.com

Spies on Internet postings...

WASHINGTON - One of the country's main monitors of hate groups asked Congress Friday to investigate possible racial extremism in the military, after finding U.S. service members participating in a social networking site advertised as being for white people only.

Researchers from the Southern Poverty Law Center, based in Montgomery, Ala., identified about 40 personal profiles of people who list the military as their occupation on the Web site New Saxon, according to the group's founder, Morris Dees.

The site, run by the Detroit-based National Socialist Movement, describes itself as an "online community for whites by whites." He said some of the participants are wearing military uniforms in profile photos, although it was not possible to verify whether any of them are actually serving in the armed forces.

But of course blacks participating in black only sites, Hispanics participating in Hispanic only sites , those are acceptable. Further 40 people from an organization the size of the US military is so insignificant as to be pointless.

Further last I checked, one is allowed to participate in any legal group one wants while a military member. You just can not go to their rallies or public meetings in Uniform. joining an online board is not covered I believe. Nor are there policies preventing one from posting a picture of oneself on said sites.

We should let openly gay people serve but BY GOD no one better belong to any white's only groups.

 

[editec]

Based on my experience the military was the least racist organization I ever worked for.

Yes, there was a lot of racial tension, and yes there was obvious racism, too. There were even some riots..it was the 70s, after all.

But compared to the civilian world, the military was the closest thing to a real meritocracy I ever experienced.

 

[KittenKoder]

I am with RGS on this one, speaking of black only sites ... where's the Bass with something from his "Black Planet" site?

 

[Lycurgus]

Based on my experience the military was the least racist organization I ever worked for.

Yes, there was a lot of racial tension, and yes there was obvious racism, too. There were even some riots..it was the 70s, after all.

But compared to the civilian world, the military was the closest thing to a real meritocracy I ever experienced.

Exactly. Sure there are racist people in the military, black and white people and racist Hispanics and/or Asians. However, the military is not racist and it's structure does not promote it, endorse it or lend it's self to it. Further, it is taken seriously if such a personal infraction takes place.

The military cannot control a persons personal likes or dislikes, but, they can see to it that they act out accordingly and properly and they do, to the best of their ability.

 

[Xenophon]

The article doesn't say what this 'watchdog group' wants done to the web site or the people on it.

 

[noose4]

i would say members of the u.s. military should not be active members of web sites run by the national socialists(nazi's) when i joined up we were asked if we were ever a member of the communist party, and seeing that we actually had a war against the national socialists military members engaging in activity with them should be a no no.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I don't agree with the claims of racism in the military. Everybody in the armed services bleed the same color of red. Intercultural relations are even a part of your evaluations and evaluations are most important for advancement in the military. Somebody is trying to sell wolf tickets with this claim...

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Sites like migente and blackplanet are non-racist, non-hate Latino and African American oriented sites, those are not examples of racists sites, ARE NOTHING COMPARABLE TO WHITE NATIONALIST SOCIALIST SITES[since whites are not barred from them and both those sites have thousands of white members as well] and the people blacks and Latinos that go on sites like those are not racists just for doing so, essentially RGS suggestion that it is so is complete and utter BS. Why do some whites demand that non-whites assimilate and or completely abandoned their cultural roots[ giving being black and or Latino] in order to show that they're colorblind while simultaneously clinging on to AND DEFENDING their whiteness and all the privilege it brings them[whether the realize those privileges or not]? *DON'T DEMAND AND ASK THINGS OF OTHERS THAT YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DO AND ARE DOING YOURSELF*.

As for this thread, the military like any other organization does have some racial problems but nevertheless is the closest thing to a meritocracy indeed like editec said.

 

[Sunni Man]

As usual, Mr. Bass has hit the nail perfectly.

 

[Gunny]

As usual, Mr. Bass has hit the nail perfectly.

More like he stuck his nail in your ass once again. He's full of shit, and so are you.

How hard is that to understand?

 

[Luissa]

Based on my experience the military was the least racist organization I ever worked for.

Yes, there was a lot of racial tension, and yes there was obvious racism, too. There were even some riots..it was the 70s, after all.

But compared to the civilian world, the military was the closest thing to a real meritocracy I ever experienced.

I am sure there is racist people in the military but as a whole I doubt it is one of the racist groups. Never been in the military but I doubt someone cares if the guy watching his back is african american or from another minority group as long as they have their back.
This does kind of of remind me of Operation SHeild.

 

[Gunny]

Based on my experience the military was the least racist organization I ever worked for.

Yes, there was a lot of racial tension, and yes there was obvious racism, too. There were even some riots..it was the 70s, after all.

But compared to the civilian world, the military was the closest thing to a real meritocracy I ever experienced.

I am sure there is racist people in the military but as a whole I doubt it is one of the racist groups. Never been in the military but I doubt someone cares if the guy watching his back is african american or from another military group as long as they have their back.
This does kind of of remind me of Operation SHeild.

As Big Black Dog stated, the allegation is hogwash. The military is not racist and an accusation of racism will bring your career to a screeching halt. We all bleed the same color. Yes, there are racists in the military, of every ethnicity. If they are wise, they keep it to themselves.

As far as what they can and cannot do after duty hours, it's none of anyone's business so long as they are not claiming to represent their respective branches of service, or the US military as a whole.

Just more PC bullshit.

 

[Luissa]

Based on my experience the military was the least racist organization I ever worked for.

Yes, there was a lot of racial tension, and yes there was obvious racism, too. There were even some riots..it was the 70s, after all.

But compared to the civilian world, the military was the closest thing to a real meritocracy I ever experienced.

I am sure there is racist people in the military but as a whole I doubt it is one of the racist groups. Never been in the military but I doubt someone cares if the guy watching his back is african american or from another military group as long as they have their back.
This does kind of of remind me of Operation SHeild.

As Big Black Dog stated, the allegation is hogwash. The military is not racist and an accusation of racism will bring your career to a screeching halt. We all bleed the same color. Yes, there are racists in the military, of every ethnicity. If they are wise, they keep it to themselves.

As far as what they can and cannot do after duty hours, it's none of anyone's business so long as they are not claiming to represent their respective branches of service, or the US military as a whole.

Just more PC bullshit.

Pretty much!
You are going to have racist people in any organization, doesn't mean the organization is racist. And I highly doubt if they are racist they talk about it while on duty, even if they did not get in trouble for it I bet there is other ways for it to come back and bite them in the ass.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

As usual, Mr. Bass has hit the nail perfectly.

More like he stuck his nail in your ass once again. He's full of shit, and so are you.

How hard is that to understand?

The bass is sick of your judgmental, "know it all" style, if the Bass is full of it please point out where, otherwise don't pretend to call the on anything. When you get up the courage to do that then the Bass will respond and rip whatever argument you make to shreds.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Oh what the hell, the Bass will just smack Gunny the hell up and show how dumb is response was.


The the two idiot jarheads, especially RGS, the site in question, New Saxon is not just another some regular site for whites similar to black oriented sites like blackplanet and here's why, New Saxon is ran and operated by the National Socialist Movement and they make their agenda quite well known on their site:


About Us » New Saxon - A Social Networking Site for People of European Descent


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)

And their 25 points summarized here, especially points 4 and 7:


25 Points of American National Socialism



The case has clearly been made that New Saxon and whites who on that site are different from blacks and Latinos going on black and latinos oriented sites, like blackplanet and migente for example, because those latter make no similar proclamations and are not ran and operated by black racists and or Latinos racists with a specific racist agenda like New Saxon. The military explicitly forbids memberships and affiliations with extremists groups.



Plainly stated, RGS is full of BS for even making the statements:

But of course blacks participating in black only sites, Hispanics participating in Hispanic only sites , those are acceptable. Further 40 people from an organization the size of the US military is so insignificant as to be pointless.

The isn't even any comparison, unless you're talking about black and Latino extremists groups, which of course is also forbidden by the military. Those are just 40 people they've identified, there's no telling how many more are actually members of such groups without appearing on that site, though the Bass thinks that number is extremely low. Any participation, involvement and or participation with any such groups is not insignificant as to be pointless.

Further last I checked, one is allowed to participate in any legal group one wants while a military member. You just can not go to their rallies or public meetings in Uniform. joining an online board is not covered I believe. Nor are there policies preventing one from posting a picture of oneself on said sites

Wrong, the military forbids membership in any groups that go against the good order and discipline of the military, whether one shows it outwardly or not

DefenseLink News Article: DoD Officials Move to Halt Extremist Activities

We should let openly gay people serve but BY GOD no one better belong to any white's only groups.

Gays and Neo-Nazis equally should not allowed be allowed in the military and please name some bonafide blacks and Latinos only sites that promote racism and racial separation that are ok for troops to join.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

As Big Black Dog stated, the allegation is hogwash. The military is not racist and an accusation of racism will bring your career to a screeching halt. We all bleed the same color. Yes, there are racists in the military, of every ethnicity. If they are wise, they keep it to themselves.

As far as what they can and cannot do after duty hours, it's none of anyone's business so long as they are not claiming to represent their respective branches of service, or the US military as a whole.

Just more PC bullshit.

Yeah, yeah, its PC BS until someone gets killed or hurt the hell up and even then idiots like will still insist nothing needs to be done incidents like that are rare, thats the attitude of a person thats lax on doing their job and being naive.

 

[Gunny]

Oh what the hell, the Bass will just smack Gunny the hell up and show how dumb is response was.


The the two idiot jarheads, especially RGS, the site in question, New Saxon is not just another some regular site for whites similar to black oriented sites like blackplanet and here's why, New Saxon is ran and operated by the National Socialist Movement and they make their agenda quite well known on their site:


About Us » New Saxon - A Social Networking Site for People of European Descent


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)

And their 25 points summarized here, especially points 4 and 7:


25 Points of American National Socialism



The case has clearly been made that New Saxon and whites who on that site are different from blacks and Latinos going on black and latinos oriented sites, like blackplanet and migente for example, because those latter make no similar proclamations and are not ran and operated by black racists and or Latinos racists with a specific racist agenda like New Saxon. The military explicitly forbids memberships and affiliations with extremists groups.



Plainly stated, RGS is full of BS for even making the statements:

But of course blacks participating in black only sites, Hispanics participating in Hispanic only sites , those are acceptable. Further 40 people from an organization the size of the US military is so insignificant as to be pointless.

The isn't even any comparison, unless you're talking about black and Latino extremists groups, which of course is also forbidden by the military. Those are just 40 people they've identified, there's no telling how many more are actually members of such groups without appearing on that site, though the Bass thinks that number is extremely low. Any participation, involvement and or participation with any such groups is not insignificant as to be pointless.

Further last I checked, one is allowed to participate in any legal group one wants while a military member. You just can not go to their rallies or public meetings in Uniform. joining an online board is not covered I believe. Nor are there policies preventing one from posting a picture of oneself on said sites

Wrong, the military forbids membership in any groups that go against the good order and discipline of the military, whether one shows it outwardly or not

DefenseLink News Article: DoD Officials Move to Halt Extremist Activities

We should let openly gay people serve but BY GOD no one better belong to any white's only groups.

Gays and Neo-Nazis equally should not allowed be allowed in the military and please name some bonafide blacks and Latinos only sites that promote racism and racial separation that are ok for troops to join.

As Big Black Dog stated, the allegation is hogwash. The military is not racist and an accusation of racism will bring your career to a screeching halt. We all bleed the same color. Yes, there are racists in the military, of every ethnicity. If they are wise, they keep it to themselves.

As far as what they can and cannot do after duty hours, it's none of anyone's business so long as they are not claiming to represent their respective branches of service, or the US military as a whole.

Just more PC bullshit.

Yeah, yeah, its PC BS until someone gets killed or hurt the hell up and even then idiots like will still insist nothing needs to be done incidents like that are rare, thats the attitude of a person thats lax on doing their job and being naive.

You couldn't smack me if I stood still at 3 feet and gave you a free shot. You're full of shit Bass and all you do is whine about how whitey is out to get you.

The military, as an organization is not racist. Need I break out the law that says so? Or are you going to shut the fuck up and sit your stupid ass back down? The fact that racists, like YOU, exist within the military is rather hard to control, wouldn't you say, since racist pieces of trash like you slip through the cracks at will?

And yeah, it's PC bullshit. If something needs to be done about racists who happen to exist in the military, I would most certainly come after your ass and use all the damned whine, snot and tears you've left all over this board as evidence.

You know as well as I do that if you are accused of being racist in the military you're done. Probably the reason YOU had to get out before 20.

Now shut the fuck up, weaseldick. Don't you and 52Street and that peice of human garbage Yukon have a E-Klan meeting to protest? Lord knows collectively there aren't enough balls in the lot of you to protest a real one.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

You couldn't smack me if I stood still at 3 feet and gave you a free shot. You're full of shit Bass and all you do is whine about how whitey is out to get you.

Come to the Delta here in Miss and dare to call the Bass' bluff at your own risk, otherwise don't bother the Bass cyber chest pounding acting like a gorilla.

The military, as an organization is not racist. Need I break out the law that says so? Or are you going to shut the fuck up and sit your stupid ass back down?

There you go beating on straw arguments and refuting boneheaded claims that no one has made Neither the Bass nor the SPLC made the claim that the military is a racist organization you butthead, does that mean that there are no racist people and or people who belong to extremist groups in the military? No it does not and thats the point the Bass was making and the bass even said the military is not mostly full of racist people, are you illiterate or full of senility or something? try reading people's responses before showing up acting like you're some kind of big wig with all the answers.

The fact that racists, like YOU, exist within the military is rather hard to control, wouldn't you say, since racist pieces of trash like you slip through the cracks at will?

No the Bass is not racist and is no longer in the Air Force, far be it from the Bass. talking about race and how it affects both the oppressed and the oppressor does not make one a racist.

You know as well as I do that if you are accused of being racist in the military you're done. Probably the reason YOU had to get out before 20.

Untruthful post, when the hell did you retire moron? Read this:


Global Politician - Extremist Navy Officer Receives Slap On The Wrist


The guy is still on active duty.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

The title thread is misleading because the SPLC never said the itself is racist, it said it uncovered people[a small number] in the miltary who belonged to extremist groups, why did you idiots fall for WJ's misleading title?