Military Forces prior to WWII, Kores and Vietnam

[usmcstinger]

US Army Strength Prior to WWII 125,000 in 1936 increased to 165,000
Between 1951 and 1990 total active duty military personnel annually exceeded 2 million, and exceeded 3 miilion from 1951-1954 ( Korean War )and from 1966 to 1970 ( Vietnam War ).
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA415899

US Marine Corps Strength
NINETEEN TENS
Decade began with 9,696 Marines (9,368 Enlisted; 328 Officers)
Decade ended with 48,834 Marines (46,564 Enlisted; 2,270 Officers)
NINETEEN FORTIES
Decade began with 19,432 Marines (18,052 Enlisted; 1,380 Officers)
Decade ended with 85,965 Marines (78,715 Enlisted; 7,250 Officers)
NINETEEN FIFTIES
Decade began with 85,965 Marines (78,715 Enlisted; 7,250 Officers)
Decade ended with 175,571 Marines (159,506 Enlisted; 16,065 Officers)
NINETEEN SIXTIES
Decade began with 175,571 Marines (159,506 Enlisted; 16,065 Officers)
Decade ended with 309,771 Marines (284,073
NINETEEN SEVENTIES
Decade began with 309,771 Marines (284,073 Enlisted; 25,698 Officers)
Decade ended with 185,250 Marines (167,021 Enlisted; 18,229 Officers)sted; 25,698 Officers)
http://www.marines.com/history-heritage/timeline

 

[rightwinger]

You trying to make a point?

 

[editec]

They should not call the non-officers "ENLISTED" during the 60s.

Many Marines ( and most Army non-officers ) did not ENLIST, they were DRAFTED back then.

 

[whitehall]

President Harry Truman showed how grateful the democrat elites were for the uncommon valor of Marines on Iwo Jima and all the other Island campaigns by trying to downsize the Marine Corps to insignificance after WW2 allegedly to save a couple of bucks. To add insult to injury Truman publicly stated "the Marines have better propaganda than Stalin". Despite the insults the Marines managed to bail MacArthur (and the Truman administration) out of the biggest ambush in history at Chosin during the Korean war. You almost gotta laugh that the liberal media apparently supports the democrat party concept of replacing superbly trained branches of the Military with homosexual warriors and women.

 

[regent]

Some believe that the marine corps may have been in trouble for its existance during WWII and that is why the casualty rates were so high. I forget Forestall's words after Iwo but something to the effect that the Marine corps would now be kept for some years to come.

 

[usmcstinger]

They should not call the non-officers "ENLISTED" during the 60s.

Many Marines ( and most Army non-officers ) did not ENLIST, they were DRAFTED back then.

Obviously, you nothing about those of us who served in Vietnam. Educate yourself about a topic,rather than showing your ignorance about it.


I got my draft notice while I was at USMC Boot Camp, Parris Island, SC
I though I dodged the draft when I enlisted in the USMC on Feb. 7, 1966.
My father had some fun calling the Draft Board and telling them I would never show up.

2 /3 of all those who served in Vietnam enlisted.
Statistics about the Vietnam War
Draftees vs. volunteers: 25% (648,500) of total forces in country were draftees. (66% of U.S. armed forces members were drafted during WWII). Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.
http://www.vva1046.com/vietnam-statistic
Kirklin J. Bateman HIST 697 SP 03 Citizen Soldiers in Vietnam

 

[Mushroom]

They should not call the non-officers "ENLISTED" during the 60s.

Many Marines ( and most Army non-officers ) did not ENLIST, they were DRAFTED back then.

Have a reference to back that charge up? Because everything I have seen gives a draft rate at around 25% of military forces.

Vietnam War-Stories.com: Historical Reflections: the VIETNAM War Revisited by CAPT Marshall Hanson, USNR, by Capt Scott Beaton, 2000.

Of course, a large number actually enlisted to avoid the draft. When you enlisted, you could have a say on what you did and where you served. I had one uncle join the California National Guard, where he was in supply. He served in the military, and avoided being drafted and sent overseas.

The largest percentage of draftees was in WWII, where over 60% were drafted. But this was done to control the training process. All enlistment other then highly needed jobs (pilots, medical, linguists, etc) were suspended, but you could "enlist" in a branch of your choice. Then when you were called up for the draft that was the branch you went into.

Our military can only process so many people at a time. It takes from 3-6 months to train somebody, so the draft was used as a form of flow control.

And such individuals are still recorded as "draftees", even if they had seen a recruiter and entered their choices before they were called up.

 

[Mushroom]

I got my draft notice while I was at USMC Boot Camp, Parris Island, SC
I though I dodged the draft when I enlisted in the USMC on Feb. 7, 1966.
My father had some fun calling the Draft Board and telling them I would never show up.

Interestingly enough, I got a letter when I was overseas threatening all kinds of dire punishments if I did not register. It even came to my address, Fox Company, 2/2 Camp Lejeune.

My CO got a laugh over it, and kept a copy framed on his wall. He also wrote a letter back, asking if I should be sent back to the US on leave from active duty in order to register since they did not have any registration forms in Japan.

Then a few years later when I applied to college, they tried to deny me because there was no record of me ever filling out the application for Selective Service. The bureaucrat in registration did not want to listen that I was not required to for 3 reasons:

1. I had fulfilled 10 years Active Duty.
2. I was discharged medically, so was no longer eligible.
3. I was 28, to old to register.

I finally had to see the dean for the little nazi to shut up and enroll me in school.

 

[JakeStarkey]

President Harry Truman showed how grateful the democrat elites were for the uncommon valor of Marines on Iwo Jima and all the other Island campaigns by trying to downsize the Marine Corps to insignificance after WW2 allegedly to save a couple of bucks.

The Congress was GOP in 46and 48, and it controlled the Senate 46.

Don't you ever study before you flap something stupidly out of your ass.

Plus the OP has no logic to it.

 

[regent]

They should not call the non-officers "ENLISTED" during the 60s.

Many Marines ( and most Army non-officers ) did not ENLIST, they were DRAFTED back then.

Actually many times the GI's were not called enlistees but enlisted pukes.
I think volunteering became passe and all were drafted. I was drafted and somewhere someone stamped my hand "Navy" and I had a hell of a time getting some ensign to restamp me army.

 

[usmcstinger]

They should not call the non-officers "ENLISTED" during the 60s.

Many Marines ( and most Army non-officers ) did not ENLIST, they were DRAFTED back then.

Actually many times the GI's were not called enlistees but enlisted pukes.
I think volunteering became passe and all were drafted. I was drafted and somewhere someone stamped my hand "Navy" and I had a hell of a time getting some ensign to restamp me army.

On December 31, 1969 the 1st Lottery Draft took place. However, by November of 1969, the entire 3rd Marine Division left Vietnam. This only left the 1st Marine Division in Vietnam.
The size of a Marine Corps Division is between 18,000 to 22,000 Marines.
In my Boot Camp Plt. 2/24/66, we had just one draftee.
The enlistment numbers were never passé.

Do you have a learning disability or are you just stupid?

 

[regent]

They should not call the non-officers "ENLISTED" during the 60s.

Many Marines ( and most Army non-officers ) did not ENLIST, they were DRAFTED back then.

Actually many times the GI's were not called enlistees but enlisted pukes.
I think volunteering became passe and all were drafted. I was drafted and somewhere someone stamped my hand "Navy" and I had a hell of a time getting some ensign to restamp me army.

On December 31, 1969 the 1st Lottery Draft took place. However, by November of 1969, the entire 3rd Marine Division left Vietnam. This only left the 1st Marine Division in Vietnam.
The size of a Marine Corps Division is between 18,000 to 22,000 Marines.
In my Boot Camp Plt. 2/24/66, we had just one draftee.
The enlistment numbers were never passé.

Do you have a learning disability or are you just stupid?

What was passe was that the enlistments were stopped in 1942 and the draft became the source of manpower. When accepted by the military as fit the draftee was then assigned to a military branch. Many draftees went into the Marine Corps and when I was stamped Navy that meant a good chance of ending up in a branch that I did not want.

 

[Mushroom]

What was passe was that the enlistments were stopped in 1942 and the draft became the source of manpower. When accepted by the military as fit the draftee was then assigned to a military branch. Many draftees went into the Marine Corps and when I was stamped Navy that meant a good chance of ending up in a branch that I did not want.

Wow, and I have no idea what that actually means.