Michelle's mom opposed marriage to biracial man

You see folks, racism works both ways and the FLOTUS has a mother who is a prime example. And Marion Anderson, is a very smart woman, who reared two successful kids.

Long before Michelle Obama became First Lady, her mother had misgivings about her marrying a young man named Barack Obama — because he was biracial.

In a Chicago TV interview that aired during Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign — and newly resurrected by Michelle Obama biographer Peter Slevin in a book due out next month — Marion Robinson confessed to being “a little bit” wary about her future son-in-law being the product of a white mom and black dad.

But it could’ve been worse, according to Robinson.

“That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely white,” Robinson laughed in the appearance on WTTW’s “Chicago Tonight,” which was scarcely noticed at the time.

more: EXCLUSIVE Michelle Obama mom had biracial marriage worries - NY Daily News

Totally gives moochelles mom a pass on being a racist. Duddy thinks you have to be white to be racist. He is a typical pansy ass libturd.


Whoa whoa WHOA folks.

--- On what basis are we concluding "racism" here?

Can we just quit knee-jerk calling "racism" every time we see a different shade on somebody? Can we just stop perpetuating this crapola? Can we do dat?

There are sociocultural dynamics in such relationships, and there's nothing to suggest Marion Robinson was operating on anything but that -- from the link:

>> “I guess that I worry about races mixing because of the difficulty — not for, so much for prejudice or anything,” Robinson continued. “It’s just very hard.”

Slevin’s forthcoming biography, “Michelle Obama: A Life,” doesn’t suggest those concerns spurred Robinson to oppose the union. <<
-- not unlike the parent who worries that their child came out as gay, for the difficulties they will face -- from sociocultural pressures. On the outside.

Racism, on the other hand, requires a value judgment by the racist --- that "Race X is superior to Race Y". There's no indication of that here either.

This is a gadfly headline written to SELL PAPERS. We can see that as soon as we get to the word "EXCLUSIVE!!". When will we get it through our heads that muckraking gossip papers are using their readers as pawns? If we don't quite enabling this shit we will never emerge from their muck. They profit from it.

Thank you.

Damn.

Thanks for your civil response, Pogo, my bud who loves good music. :D

I love civility too m'dear QuaQua. I just worry about us losing it in rhetorical dissonnance.
Not "us" us but Us as a country.
Love ya 'Qua :smiliehug:

I love you, too sweetheart. I have for a long time. I respect and admire you. We don't always have to agree on all things, as you once pointed out to me, in your usual astute brilliance.

:smiliehug:

If we did it would make me think of two words:
Bore
ING.

:D
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Totally gives moochelles mom a pass on being a racist. Duddy thinks you have to be white to be racist. He is a typical pansy ass libturd.

Why don't you go to the article and quote us the "racist" part. You know, confirm post 6.

This oughta be good...
See post 12 doofus

I already did.
You walked right into it.
12 doesn't make your case. Read post 10. Or post 7. 12 was already refuted before you posted.

Think about it. You know -- break the mold. Value judgment? Not found.


So -- anything else?
no it wasnt, just because you said it was doesnt make it so. If Luara Bushes mom said “That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely Black,” , you would be wigging out, you hypocrite.
 
You see folks, racism works both ways and the FLOTUS has a mother who is a prime example. And Marion Anderson, is a very smart woman, who reared two successful kids.

Long before Michelle Obama became First Lady, her mother had misgivings about her marrying a young man named Barack Obama — because he was biracial.

In a Chicago TV interview that aired during Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign — and newly resurrected by Michelle Obama biographer Peter Slevin in a book due out next month — Marion Robinson confessed to being “a little bit” wary about her future son-in-law being the product of a white mom and black dad.

But it could’ve been worse, according to Robinson.

“That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely white,” Robinson laughed in the appearance on WTTW’s “Chicago Tonight,” which was scarcely noticed at the time.

more: EXCLUSIVE Michelle Obama mom had biracial marriage worries - NY Daily News

Totally gives moochelles mom a pass on being a racist. Duddy thinks you have to be white to be racist. He is a typical pansy ass libturd.


Whoa whoa WHOA folks.

--- On what basis are we concluding "racism" here?

Can we just quit knee-jerk calling "racism" every time we see a different shade on somebody? Can we just stop perpetuating this crapola? Can we do dat?

There are sociocultural dynamics in such relationships, and there's nothing to suggest Marion Robinson was operating on anything but that -- from the link:

>> “I guess that I worry about races mixing because of the difficulty — not for, so much for prejudice or anything,” Robinson continued. “It’s just very hard.”

Slevin’s forthcoming biography, “Michelle Obama: A Life,” doesn’t suggest those concerns spurred Robinson to oppose the union. <<
-- not unlike the parent who worries that their child came out as gay, for the difficulties they will face -- from sociocultural pressures. On the outside.

Racism, on the other hand, requires a value judgment by the racist --- that "Race X is superior to Race Y". There's no indication of that here either.

This is a gadfly headline written to SELL PAPERS. We can see that as soon as we get to the word "EXCLUSIVE!!". When will we get it through our heads that muckraking gossip papers are using their readers as pawns? If we don't quite enabling this shit we will never emerge from their muck. They profit from it.

Thank you.

Damn.

Good post.

She was right.

Don't all parents wish for the same thing for their children?

Well, whether she was right in her concerns, didn't turn out that way, but a charge of "racism" goes to motivations. All NLT can find in his desperate search (he's still at it) is a statement about preference -- he can't find a "why" that proves what he's bent on finding. There's no motivation based on racial value judgment, which is what racism requires to exist.

Methinks many of us overuse "racism" and "race" on many things that are at base cultural. Getting away from racism requires something which is anathema to perpetuating it -- analytical thought. Racism is based on knee-jerk emotions bereft of such analysis. Rational thought is its Kryptonite.
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Totally gives moochelles mom a pass on being a racist. Duddy thinks you have to be white to be racist. He is a typical pansy ass libturd.

Why don't you go to the article and quote us the "racist" part. You know, confirm post 6.

This oughta be good...
See post 12 doofus

I already did.
You walked right into it.
12 doesn't make your case. Read post 10. Or post 7. 12 was already refuted before you posted.

Think about it. You know -- break the mold. Value judgment? Not found.


So -- anything else?
no it wasnt, just because you said it was doesnt make it so. If Luara Bushes mom said “That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely Black,” , you would be wigging out, you hypocrite.

Speculation Fallacy fails; ad hom based on Speculation Fallacy has no legs, crumbles to the ground.

And in the hypothesis, Laura Bush's mom isn't stating her motivation either, so it STILL doesn't denote "racism". This point continues to sail blitehley over your head as you trudge on determined to see the worst in both your rhetorical adversaries and public figures' parents, which you apparently see as some political football to be booted over a goalpost in the quest for "points".

Sad little fart.
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Misgivings is another word for bigotry, dipshit.

I see the double-standards you liberals love living under. Whites can't have "misgivings" but Blacks get a free pass. And being a libroid allows you to throw around race indiscriminately whether it's justified or not.
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Misgivings is another word for bigotry, dipshit.

I see the double-standards you liberals love living under. Whites can't have "misgivings" but Blacks get a free pass. And being a libroid allows you to throw around race indiscriminately whether it's justified or not.

Bullshit. That is NOT what "misgivings" means.

mis·giv·ing
ˌmisˈɡiviNG/
noun
plural noun: misgivings
a feeling of doubt or apprehension about the outcome or consequences of something.
"we have misgivings about the way the campaign is being run"
synonyms: qualm, doubt, reservation

That post was truly desperate. With a Strawman bonus track.

Why are y'all bent in inventing and inserting shit that isn't there?
What does that tell you about your own motivations?
 
You see folks, racism works both ways and the FLOTUS has a mother who is a prime example. And Marion Anderson, is a very smart woman, who reared two successful kids.

Long before Michelle Obama became First Lady, her mother had misgivings about her marrying a young man named Barack Obama — because he was biracial.

In a Chicago TV interview that aired during Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign — and newly resurrected by Michelle Obama biographer Peter Slevin in a book due out next month — Marion Robinson confessed to being “a little bit” wary about her future son-in-law being the product of a white mom and black dad.

But it could’ve been worse, according to Robinson.

“That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely white,” Robinson laughed in the appearance on WTTW’s “Chicago Tonight,” which was scarcely noticed at the time.

more: EXCLUSIVE Michelle Obama mom had biracial marriage worries - NY Daily News

If you read the rest of the article you discover that her misgivings were not racism on her part at all.

“I guess that I worry about races mixing because of the difficulty — not for, so much for prejudice or anything,” Robinson continued. “It’s just very hard.”

Slevin’s forthcoming biography, “Michelle Obama: A Life,” doesn’t suggest those concerns spurred Robinson to oppose the union.

To the contrary, writes Slevin, a veteran Washington Post correspondent who now teaches journalism at Northwestern University’s Medill School: “Marian, no pushover, was favorably impressed with Barack.”

When the Obamas moved to Washington, Robinson, now 77, joined them as the doting and protective grandmother to the couple’s daughters, Sasha and Malia.

While granting few interviews, Robinson has spent years doing everything from tucking the girls in at night to accompanying them on official trips to China and Africa.

More recently, she marched with the Obama family in Selma, Ala., to commemorated one of the bloodiest battles of the civil rights movement.​

She was only concerned that Michelle might encounter racism from other family relatives. She approved of Michelle's choice of Barack.

Hello my long lost bud and friend. :)

And I DID read the rest of the article. I'm sure now that he is the POTUS she has changed her mind, in spite of her original reservations of him being from a black parent and a white parent, as opposed to, for example, a dysfunctional and divided and fatherless family. That is what I would have been more concerned about, should she have been my daughter.

Hi AA, LTNS :)

Every parent is concerned that their child is marrying more than just the person they fall in love with. Yes, a dysfunctional family is just as much of a problem for newly marrieds.

From what I gathered she never had any reservations about him from the outset. It was only the extended family that concerned her and that was in no way racism on her part.

As for becoming POTUS who wouldn't be proud of their son in law under those circumstances?
 
Totally gives moochelles mom a pass on being a racist. Duddy thinks you have to be white to be racist. He is a typical pansy ass libturd.

Why don't you go to the article and quote us the "racist" part. You know, confirm post 6.

This oughta be good...
See post 12 doofus

I already did.
You walked right into it.
12 doesn't make your case. Read post 10. Or post 7. 12 was already refuted before you posted.

Think about it. You know -- break the mold. Value judgment? Not found.


So -- anything else?
no it wasnt, just because you said it was doesnt make it so. If Luara Bushes mom said “That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely Black,” , you would be wigging out, you hypocrite.

Speculation Fallacy fails; ad hom based on Speculation Fallacy has no legs, crumbles to the ground.

And in the hypothesis, Laura Bush's mom isn't stating her motivation either, so it STILL doesn't denote "racism". This point continues to sail blitehley over your head as you trudge on determined to see the worst in both your rhetorical adversaries and public figures' parents, which you apparently see as some political football to be booted over a goalpost in the quest for "points".

Sad little fart.

So, again, blinders firmly in place until the mom starts throwing out racial slurs like candy at a Christmas parade.

If the woman doesn't approve of a biracial man marrying her daughter, she's a bigot plain and simple. Where does she get off anyway? There isn't a pure black living in America anymore unless he just stepped off a plane from Nigeria
 
You see folks, racism works both ways and the FLOTUS has a mother who is a prime example. And Marion Anderson, is a very smart woman, who reared two successful kids.

Long before Michelle Obama became First Lady, her mother had misgivings about her marrying a young man named Barack Obama — because he was biracial.

In a Chicago TV interview that aired during Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign — and newly resurrected by Michelle Obama biographer Peter Slevin in a book due out next month — Marion Robinson confessed to being “a little bit” wary about her future son-in-law being the product of a white mom and black dad.

But it could’ve been worse, according to Robinson.

“That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely white,” Robinson laughed in the appearance on WTTW’s “Chicago Tonight,” which was scarcely noticed at the time.

more: EXCLUSIVE Michelle Obama mom had biracial marriage worries - NY Daily News

If you read the rest of the article you discover that her misgivings were not racism on her part at all.

“I guess that I worry about races mixing because of the difficulty — not for, so much for prejudice or anything,” Robinson continued. “It’s just very hard.”

Slevin’s forthcoming biography, “Michelle Obama: A Life,” doesn’t suggest those concerns spurred Robinson to oppose the union.

To the contrary, writes Slevin, a veteran Washington Post correspondent who now teaches journalism at Northwestern University’s Medill School: “Marian, no pushover, was favorably impressed with Barack.”

When the Obamas moved to Washington, Robinson, now 77, joined them as the doting and protective grandmother to the couple’s daughters, Sasha and Malia.

While granting few interviews, Robinson has spent years doing everything from tucking the girls in at night to accompanying them on official trips to China and Africa.

More recently, she marched with the Obama family in Selma, Ala., to commemorated one of the bloodiest battles of the civil rights movement.​

She was only concerned that Michelle might encounter racism from other family relatives. She approved of Michelle's choice of Barack.
BFS

Her words
“That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely white,” Robinson laughed

That proves the exact opposite of your misperception.
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Misgivings is another word for bigotry, dipshit.

I see the double-standards you liberals love living under. Whites can't have "misgivings" but Blacks get a free pass. And being a libroid allows you to throw around race indiscriminately whether it's justified or not.

Bullshit. That is NOT what "misgivings" means.

mis·giv·ing
ˌmisˈɡiviNG/
noun
plural noun: misgivings
a feeling of doubt or apprehension about the outcome or consequences of something.
"we have misgivings about the way the campaign is being run"
synonyms: qualm, doubt, reservation

That post was truly desperate. With a Strawman bonus track.

Why are y'all bent in inventing and inserting shit that isn't there?
What does that tell you about your own motivations?

Context is important.

Misgivings is the word used. I think in this case more less suitable words apply. However, the language has been cleaned up and softened to appear less repulsive.
 
If the woman doesn't approve of a biracial man marrying her daughter, she's a bigot plain and simple.

Except that Marion Robinson did approve of Barack Obama.

Your entire premise flawed because it is based on your own failure to comprehend what was actually said.
 
You see folks, racism works both ways and the FLOTUS has a mother who is a prime example. And Marion Anderson, is a very smart woman, who reared two successful kids.

Long before Michelle Obama became First Lady, her mother had misgivings about her marrying a young man named Barack Obama — because he was biracial.

In a Chicago TV interview that aired during Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign — and newly resurrected by Michelle Obama biographer Peter Slevin in a book due out next month — Marion Robinson confessed to being “a little bit” wary about her future son-in-law being the product of a white mom and black dad.

But it could’ve been worse, according to Robinson.

“That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely white,” Robinson laughed in the appearance on WTTW’s “Chicago Tonight,” which was scarcely noticed at the time.

more: EXCLUSIVE Michelle Obama mom had biracial marriage worries - NY Daily News
When did "misgivings" start meaning the same thing as "opposed"?
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Totally gives moochelles mom a pass on being a racist. Duddy thinks you have to be white to be racist. He is a typical pansy ass libturd.

I'm going to give you a total pass on not knowing what racist means
I know what one looks like..CC
25032.jpg

How could you? You dont even know the definition so that would be impossible
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Misgivings is another word for bigotry, dipshit.

I see the double-standards you liberals love living under. Whites can't have "misgivings" but Blacks get a free pass. And being a libroid allows you to throw around race indiscriminately whether it's justified or not.

Bullshit. That is NOT what "misgivings" means.

mis·giv·ing
ˌmisˈɡiviNG/
noun
plural noun: misgivings
a feeling of doubt or apprehension about the outcome or consequences of something.
"we have misgivings about the way the campaign is being run"
synonyms: qualm, doubt, reservation

That post was truly desperate. With a Strawman bonus track.

Why are y'all bent in inventing and inserting shit that isn't there?
What does that tell you about your own motivations?

Context is important.

Misgivings is the word used. I think in this case more less suitable words apply. However, the language has been cleaned up and softened to appear less repulsive.
No she was quoted as saying "wary". Wary doesnt mean opposed. She even explains herself being wary.

"“I guess that I worry about races mixing because of the difficulty — not for, so much for prejudice or anything,” Robinson continued. “It’s just very hard.”"
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Totally gives moochelles mom a pass on being a racist. Duddy thinks you have to be white to be racist. He is a typical pansy ass libturd.

Why don't you go to the article and quote us the "racist" part. You know, confirm post 6.

This oughta be good...
See post 12 doofus

I already did.
You walked right into it.
12 doesn't make your case. Read post 10. Or post 7. 12 was already refuted before you posted.

Think about it. You know -- break the mold. Value judgment? Not found.


So -- anything else?
no it wasnt, just because you said it was doesnt make it so. If Luara Bushes mom said “That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely Black,” , you would be wigging out, you hypocrite.
Why would that concern anyone if a mother expressed concerns about such a pivotal decision in the life of their child?
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

A mother with misgivings about the man her daughter is marrying.

That has never happened before. You kkk-types are to be commended for uncovering this very important story and sharing it with the world.


:rolleyes:
Misgivings is another word for bigotry, dipshit.

I see the double-standards you liberals love living under. Whites can't have "misgivings" but Blacks get a free pass. And being a libroid allows you to throw around race indiscriminately whether it's justified or not.
Youre an idiot. What retarded dictionary are you looking at? Do you have a link?
 
You see folks, racism works both ways and the FLOTUS has a mother who is a prime example. And Marion Anderson, is a very smart woman, who reared two successful kids.

Long before Michelle Obama became First Lady, her mother had misgivings about her marrying a young man named Barack Obama — because he was biracial.

In a Chicago TV interview that aired during Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign — and newly resurrected by Michelle Obama biographer Peter Slevin in a book due out next month — Marion Robinson confessed to being “a little bit” wary about her future son-in-law being the product of a white mom and black dad.

But it could’ve been worse, according to Robinson.

“That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely white,” Robinson laughed in the appearance on WTTW’s “Chicago Tonight,” which was scarcely noticed at the time.

more: EXCLUSIVE Michelle Obama mom had biracial marriage worries - NY Daily News

If you read the rest of the article you discover that her misgivings were not racism on her part at all.

“I guess that I worry about races mixing because of the difficulty — not for, so much for prejudice or anything,” Robinson continued. “It’s just very hard.”

Slevin’s forthcoming biography, “Michelle Obama: A Life,” doesn’t suggest those concerns spurred Robinson to oppose the union.

To the contrary, writes Slevin, a veteran Washington Post correspondent who now teaches journalism at Northwestern University’s Medill School: “Marian, no pushover, was favorably impressed with Barack.”

When the Obamas moved to Washington, Robinson, now 77, joined them as the doting and protective grandmother to the couple’s daughters, Sasha and Malia.

While granting few interviews, Robinson has spent years doing everything from tucking the girls in at night to accompanying them on official trips to China and Africa.

More recently, she marched with the Obama family in Selma, Ala., to commemorated one of the bloodiest battles of the civil rights movement.​

She was only concerned that Michelle might encounter racism from other family relatives. She approved of Michelle's choice of Barack.

Hello my long lost bud and friend. :)

And I DID read the rest of the article. I'm sure now that he is the POTUS she has changed her mind, in spite of her original reservations of him being from a black parent and a white parent, as opposed to, for example, a dysfunctional and divided and fatherless family. That is what I would have been more concerned about, should she have been my daughter.

Hi AA, LTNS :)

Every parent is concerned that their child is marrying more than just the person they fall in love with. Yes, a dysfunctional family is just as much of a problem for newly marrieds.

From what I gathered she never had any reservations about him from the outset. It was only the extended family that concerned her and that was in no way racism on her part.

As for becoming POTUS who wouldn't be proud of their son in law under those circumstances?
The way it reads is that she had misgivings, but
thank God he wasn't White. That would have been terrible.


Racism to the core.
 
Why don't you go to the article and quote us the "racist" part. You know, confirm post 6.

This oughta be good...
See post 12 doofus

I already did.
You walked right into it.
12 doesn't make your case. Read post 10. Or post 7. 12 was already refuted before you posted.

Think about it. You know -- break the mold. Value judgment? Not found.


So -- anything else?
no it wasnt, just because you said it was doesnt make it so. If Luara Bushes mom said “That didn’t concern me as much as had he been completely Black,” , you would be wigging out, you hypocrite.

Speculation Fallacy fails; ad hom based on Speculation Fallacy has no legs, crumbles to the ground.

And in the hypothesis, Laura Bush's mom isn't stating her motivation either, so it STILL doesn't denote "racism". This point continues to sail blitehley over your head as you trudge on determined to see the worst in both your rhetorical adversaries and public figures' parents, which you apparently see as some political football to be booted over a goalpost in the quest for "points".

Sad little fart.

So, again, blinders firmly in place until the mom starts throwing out racial slurs like candy at a Christmas parade.

If the woman doesn't approve of a biracial man marrying her daughter, she's a bigot plain and simple. Where does she get off anyway? There isn't a pure black living in America anymore unless he just stepped off a plane from Nigeria
"Misgivings" does not equal "doesn't approve". Maybe you had to change the message to make some kind of point? If you didn't, isn't much of a point, is it?
 

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