Michele Obama goes to China.. Forbids any reporters.

Here is one of the first reports on her visit that I saw.


China claims victory in battle of first ladies - Telegraph

Sounds like Conservatives and Communist Chinese are in agreement.

:D

If she had good sense she would have taken along a few members of the press who are in the tank for her and they would have filed complimentary reports about her visit. I don't believe the Telegraph is a conservative or communist newspaper?

ok so sue me. i see nothing wrong with not taking reporters on this trip. its supposed to be educational and not political if i read the reports correctly.
 
What is all this about the Chinese eating dog like it's terrible. obama eats dog that's okay with liberals. Now it's suddenly awful? Really? Start with your own.
 
Most presidents and their families have been pigs. The Obamas are heels and well as hogs.

Just remember that time wounds all heels, pigs go to the trough, and hogs go to the slaughter!

id say youre a piece of work but youre not even that high on any list. :eusa_silenced:
 
Michelle has crossed speaking about HUMAN rights off of the list of things to do while in China. Hillary and Laura had the gumption to do that on their trips there.

First of all as I said earlier in this thread, foreign affairs have never been a role for the First Lady.

Secondly, even if she wanted to break the mold, our differences with China over Tibet and Taiwan are wider than the Grand Canyon. It would be impossible for a First Lady to ever break the surface.
 
What is all this about the Chinese eating dog like it's terrible. obama eats dog that's okay with liberals. Now it's suddenly awful? Really? Start with your own.

obama eats dog? wtf is THAT supposed to mean?

Just a fact.

dont play that coy shit. elaborate or be called a liar. (although i know where this shit going...i want to see you actually say it and not feel like an ass doing it)
 
Here is one of the first reports on her visit that I saw.


China claims victory in battle of first ladies - Telegraph

Sounds like Conservatives and Communist Chinese are in agreement.

:D

If she had good sense she would have taken along a few members of the press who are in the tank for her and they would have filed complimentary reports about her visit. I don't believe the Telegraph is a conservative or communist newspaper?

She would have had to leave FOX and NEWSMAX out of the pool.

And they would scream bloody murder.
 
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Here is one of the first reports on her visit that I saw.


China claims victory in battle of first ladies - Telegraph

Sounds like Conservatives and Communist Chinese are in agreement.

:D

If she had good sense she would have taken along a few members of the press who are in the tank for her and they would have filed complimentary reports about her visit. I don't believe the Telegraph is a conservative or communist newspaper?

It takes a special kind of insecurity to see 2 people meeting as some kind of battle to be won. Some people are so insecure they are incapable of just enjoying the moment and exchange of new and different ideas.
 
Personally I wouldnt eat dog or cat but what is the problem if other people do? You should check out some of the practices we have here in the states. You can only be so humane in the raising and killing of animals for human consumption. When they invent a way for us to eat meat without killing an animal then we should jump on China with both feet.

False. The first dog I had when I was a kid was put down at the vet's. I didn't have the stomach then to go in and be with Harley, but instead a friend of mine did go in. Molly, the last dog I had euthanized died in less than a second from the time she was injected. She dropped straight down and did not suffer at all. Stray dogs in animal shelters are gassed to death in the U.S., which is also a very cruel way to die. Not as bad as the Chinese methods.

To get the furs from them, they have to kill them first and then take the fur. It would not make ANY difference as the quality of the fur. But no. It would only add a few pennies to the cost of the fur to inject the animals humanely like was done with Molly. They have a long ways to go to get there, of course, since we do not even do that in the U.S. Michele should speak up and do something about this crime against nature. It must be stopped.

Who told you any way of killing an animal causes it not to suffer in some unknown way? Has one come back from the dead and explained to you how it feels? Injecting chemicals into an animal can and does alter certain things like the quality of the meat for instance. It possibly could alter the fur quality for those looking to impress with their furs stolen from dead animals.



Why are people so opposed to taking a person's word for it? Like I said, Molly dropped straight down and didn't suffer in the second from when she was injected to when she died. Meaning she dropped down and didn't move. In the videos of the animals in China, you can see the movements towards death of the animals. When dogs are gassed, you can use your imagination of exactly what happens. It is a scientific process, gassing. If you want to get into the mysteries of death and absolute knowledge of what happens when animals and humans die, you might want to start a different thread in a different forum.

Edit: The only chemical that would have prevented Molly from moving are muscle relaxants, and they DO NOT work instanteously.
 
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Dogs aren't a food source here in the West. Thank God.


Historically, dogs have been eaten in the West as well, and still are by certain native peoples (and, of course, by anyone facing starvation).
 
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False. The first dog I had when I was a kid was put down at the vet's. I didn't have the stomach then to go in and be with Harley, but instead a friend of mine did go in. Molly, the last dog I had euthanized died in less than a second from the time she was injected. She dropped straight down and did not suffer at all. Stray dogs in animal shelters are gassed to death in the U.S., which is also a very cruel way to die. Not as bad as the Chinese methods.

To get the furs from them, they have to kill them first and then take the fur. It would not make ANY difference as the quality of the fur. But no. It would only add a few pennies to the cost of the fur to inject the animals humanely like was done with Molly. They have a long ways to go to get there, of course, since we do not even do that in the U.S. Michele should speak up and do something about this crime against nature. It must be stopped.

Who told you any way of killing an animal causes it not to suffer in some unknown way? Has one come back from the dead and explained to you how it feels? Injecting chemicals into an animal can and does alter certain things like the quality of the meat for instance. It possibly could alter the fur quality for those looking to impress with their furs stolen from dead animals.



Why are people so opposed to taking a person's word for it? Like I said, Molly dropped straight down and didn't suffer in the second from when she was injected to when she died. Meaning she dropped down and didn't move. In the videos of the animals in China, you can see the movements towards death of the animals. When dogs are gassed, you can use your imagination of exactly what happens. It is a scientific process, gassing. If you want to get into the mysteries of death and absolute knowledge of what happens when animals and humans die, you might want to start a different thread in a different forum.

Edit: The only chemical that would have prevented Molly from moving are muscle relaxants, and they DO NOT work instanteously.

I'm not opposed to taking peoples word for it if they actually experienced it. You didn't experience getting euthanized. You observed something else getting euthanized. I have as well. My point is you don't know what stress occurs nor how it manifests itself. You do realize the euthanization is just an overdose of anesthesia don't you? If you do then you also realize it is a muscle relaxer that suppresses protective reflexes?
 

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