Michele Obama goes to China.. Forbids any reporters.

[QuickHitCurepon]

Who told you any way of killing an animal causes it not to suffer in some unknown way? Has one come back from the dead and explained to you how it feels? Injecting chemicals into an animal can and does alter certain things like the quality of the meat for instance. It possibly could alter the fur quality for those looking to impress with their furs stolen from dead animals.

Why are people so opposed to taking a person's word for it? Like I said, Molly dropped straight down and didn't suffer in the second from when she was injected to when she died. Meaning she dropped down and didn't move. In the videos of the animals in China, you can see the movements towards death of the animals. When dogs are gassed, you can use your imagination of exactly what happens. It is a scientific process, gassing. If you want to get into the mysteries of death and absolute knowledge of what happens when animals and humans die, you might want to start a different thread in a different forum.

Edit: The only chemical that would have prevented Molly from moving are muscle relaxants, and they DO NOT work instanteously.

I'm not opposed to taking peoples word for it if they actually experienced it. You didn't experience getting euthanized. You observed something else getting euthanized. I have as well. My point is you don't know what stress occurs nor how it manifests itself. You do realize the euthanization is just an overdose of anesthesia don't you? If you do then you also realize it is a muscle relaxer that suppresses protective reflexes?

Yes, of course, an anesthetic is the only legal thing that can produce instant death. The point I made was that the anesthetic made her unconscious before the muscle relaxant (if used) could have had much if any effect at all.

 

[Unkotare]

Retarded questions?

That's another duck. Just answer the questions.

WTF. Is this interrogation?

What the hell are you afraid of?

 

[Unkotare]

It takes a special kind of insecurity to see 2 people meeting as some kind of battle to be won. .

You clearly do not understand the dynamic at play.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

That's another duck. Just answer the questions.

WTF. Is this interrogation?

What the hell are you afraid of?

 

[Unkotare]

WTF. Is this interrogation?

What the hell are you afraid of?

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Can't catch vid here. What are you trying to say?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

What the hell are you afraid of?

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Can catch vid here. What are you trying to say?

This is one of your comments you are trying to hide from.

I am not hiding from anything, but I am not going to start to give discourses to people who do not have respect or an open mind. The Chinese also have a great advantage that they have been a sovereign state and had continuity for thousands of years longer than we have had.

China as it exists today is about 60 years old. Mao made its traditional culture in many ways a capital offense, and physically destroyed much of its heritage. Today, historic buildings are razed in order to build empty skyscrapers.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I missed this question.

So you are saying they are communists. No shit Sherlock.

That does not mean the traditions handed down through the centuries have not survived quite well in their minds. Or are you saying the communists can somehow erase more than two thousand years of Chinese history totally from existence.

 

[Asclepias]

It takes a special kind of insecurity to see 2 people meeting as some kind of battle to be won. .

You clearly do not understand the dynamic at play.

You clearly do not understand much about anything at all. Little man syndrome at work as always.

 

[Unkotare]

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Can catch vid here. What are you trying to say?

I am not hiding from anything, but I am not going to start to give discourses to people who do not have respect or an open mind. The Chinese also have a great advantage that they have been a sovereign state and had continuity for thousands of years longer than we have had.

China as it exists today is about 60 years old. Mao made its traditional culture in many ways a capital offense, and physically destroyed much of its heritage. Today, historic buildings are razed in order to build empty skyscrapers.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I missed this question.

So you are saying they are communists. No shit Sherlock.

That does not mean the traditions handed down through the centuries have not survived quite well in their minds. Or are you saying the communists can somehow erase more than two thousand years of Chinese history totally from existence.

That's just what Mao set out to do during the Cultural Revolution. You should try 'learning' sometime. You might like it.

 

[Asclepias]

Can catch vid here. What are you trying to say?

China as it exists today is about 60 years old. Mao made its traditional culture in many ways a capital offense, and physically destroyed much of its heritage. Today, historic buildings are razed in order to build empty skyscrapers.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I missed this question.

So you are saying they are communists. No shit Sherlock.

That does not mean the traditions handed down through the centuries have not survived quite well in their minds. Or are you saying the communists can somehow erase more than two thousand years of Chinese history totally from existence.

That's just what Mao set out to do during the Cultural Revolution. You should try 'learning' sometime. You might like it.

What a dummy! Mao was not able to wipe out centuries of tradition and knowledge during his cultural revolution. He only succeeded in driving it underground for a bit.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Can catch vid here. What are you trying to say?

China as it exists today is about 60 years old. Mao made its traditional culture in many ways a capital offense, and physically destroyed much of its heritage. Today, historic buildings are razed in order to build empty skyscrapers.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I missed this question.

So you are saying they are communists. No shit Sherlock.

That does not mean the traditions handed down through the centuries have not survived quite well in their minds. Or are you saying the communists can somehow erase more than two thousand years of Chinese history totally from existence.

That's just what Mao set out to do during the Cultural Revolution. You should try 'learning' sometime. You might like it.

It is impossible to wipe out people's memories and prevent them from imparting the essence of them to their children, friends and acquantances. Idiot.

 

[namvet]

why no reporters ??

she's a pig. and pigs pig out

 

[gallantwarrior]

Looks like quite a "vacation"

NBC News - Breaking News & Top Stories - Latest World, US & Local News

I always insist on visiting schools when I vacation

What the groundlings don't get is that this is probably an attempt to get favor from the Chinese, who, have never been fans of Russia.

Nixon did it.

Worked out pretty well.

So we pimp off the FLOTUS?

 

[gallantwarrior]

You don't understand the role of First Lady. Initially it was a social responsiblity but since Elenore Roosevelt, it has taken on international and societal responsibilities

First Ladies are expected to make a difference

Join the 21st century

Excuse me while I stand over here and LMAO. The role of the FL indeed.

We're all in the 21st century there RW. LOL

The First Lady is the WIFE of the POTUS and she's window dressing. Thats all she is. She has no power to do anything on the international front. Nothing wrong with being the FL but thats all she is. Period.

First Lady is the WIFE of the POTUS...Thanks Captain Obvious

She also represents us at home and abroad. It is what First Ladies have been doing for 80 years

If she really represented us, she would have kicked his juvenile ass so hard when he acted up at Mandele's funeral that his butt would look like teddy bear ears

 

[gallantwarrior]

The People of the USA didn't vote for Michelle Obama; therefore, she's not a representative of the People. My wife doesn't attempt to do my job just because she's my wife.

Like it or not, she represents us.

And does a great job at it

Does a great job? She has committed every diplomatic and customary gaff in the book. She embarrasses us seemingly at every opportunity.

Oh, hell, yeah...remember when she decided to paw over the Queen of England?

 

[BDBoop]

Like it or not, she represents us.

And does a great job at it

Does a great job? She has committed every diplomatic and customary gaff in the book. She embarrasses us seemingly at every opportunity.

Oh, hell, yeah...remember when she decided to paw over the Queen of England?

Not how it happened, - well. I guess that's how it happened in neocon make-beleiveville.

Of course, there are corollaries to this. One must certainly touch the Queen if the monarch offers her hand (though you should return this not with a firm handshake but just a touch). On Wednesday, Michelle Obama put her hand on the Queen only after the Queen had placed her own hand on the First Lady's back as part of their conversation.

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1888962,00.html

 

[gallantwarrior]

They gonna garrote her now?

No, just smile nervously and wait for her to leave, as usual.

Correct.

You seem to know a thing or two about China.

How do you think the Chinese feel about her visit?

The overwhelming majority most likely give a flying **** about her, her brats, or her moocher mother. Really, they do have much more important things to do with their lives than to worship these people the way the American left does.

 

[gallantwarrior]

you are right, for Michelle Obama will not be able to even come close to Laura Bush's "vacation" record from 2001-2009. No matter how you slice it, Laura Bush was considerably more expensive for the taxpayers than Michelle Obama - if you are really hell bent on bitching about this in the first place.

And BTW, only racists call her "Moochelle". Feel better now?

No link to the numbers? and the racist card...all in the same post!
And still no answer as to why Laura Bush's travels were a cardinal sin and Michelle's are just peachy-keen, AOK.

here, let me help you out: why are m.o.'s travels a cardinal sin and l.b.'s travels just peachy-keen jelly bean? good luck with that one.

That's your statement, so how about you clarify why you feel that way?

 

[gallantwarrior]

lol!




AND?

When was the last time you had YOUR photo taken in Tiananmen Square?

As I said. A nice expensive vacation brought to you by the taxpayers of America.

His daughters sure have grown and both are quite lovely. He'll be beating the boys of with a stick before long.


Wonder if they've eaten any dog over in China

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A lovely place to be unless your a dog or a fur bearing animal.

Rumor has it, he's been beating boys off for quite some time now.

 

[TooTall]

Crimes against nature and animal rights are not classified as HUMAN rights.

I suspect you thought that I didn't know that didn't you? Animal rights come in second to human rights, and that was my point.

MO can go on the record about animal rights any time she pleases. She isn't a hostage there in China, right?

Yes she can, but I would bet my last dollar that she doesn't.

 

[HenryBHough]

Glad to see Moochelle go to China.

Now the frosting on the cake would be if she remained there.