Miami's Smallest Police Forces Got M16s, Armored Cars, and Grenade Launchers From Military

[Rotagilla]

There is no need for some of these small town police forces to have any type of a mine-resistant vehicle. The small departments are just loading up on military toys, they should at least have to justify their need. Why in hell would FIU o"Florida International University" need 50 M16 assault rifles and a mine-resistant vehicl for their .campus police force?

Miami s Smallest Police Forces Got M16s Armored Cars and Grenade Launchers From Military Miami New Times

Remember Virginia Tech?

Yes.
So?

How would m16's and mine resistant vehicles have changed that?
It wouldn't have changed it one bit. Cho committed suicide.

Are you in favor of arming teachers in schools?

 

[shart_attack]

There is no need for some of these small town police forces to have any type of a mine-resistant vehicle. The small departments are just loading up on military toys, they should at least have to justify their need. Why in hell would FIU "Florida International University" need 50 M16 assault rifles and a mine-resistant vehicl for their .campus police force?

Miami s Smallest Police Forces Got M16s Armored Cars and Grenade Launchers From Military Miami New Times

What authority do you possess to say what a police department needs?

Constitution for the United States - We the People

Highlight the specific part that addresses police department needs.

That wasn't your first question.

Again, you said:

What authority do you possess to say what a police department needs?

And yes, The US Constitution gives us the Right to say what those people whom we pay to keep the peace need.

No it doesn't. You have the right to say anything you wish but no authority to decide what any governmental agency needs.

People of your ilk get dumber by the day.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand this quote of yours perfectly exemplifies why you're gonna love it when the Chinese finally invade, smart guy.

Chinese are going to invade?

Cool!

Not where I live, they sure as shit ain't.

 

[Desperado]

There is no need for some of these small town police forces to have any type of a mine-resistant vehicle. The small departments are just loading up on military toys, they should at least have to justify their need. Why in hell would FIU o"Florida International University" need 50 M16 assault rifles and a mine-resistant vehicl for their .campus police force?

Miami s Smallest Police Forces Got M16s Armored Cars and Grenade Launchers From Military Miami New Times

Remember Virginia Tech?

And exactly how would have a mine-resistant vehicle helped?
In fact, would a trained police sniper (Sharp Shooter) equipped with M24 rifle have been more appropriate than 50 patrol officers each with a M16?

 

[Rotagilla]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

 

[Desperado]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Might as well they have already given them grenade launchers!

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Intelligence isn't in your favor.

BTW I'm not nor have I ever been a cop.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Might as well they have already given them grenade launchers!

They're good for dispersing tear gas. Never know when a riot may occur.

 

[Rotagilla]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Intelligence isn't in your favor.

We'll see, won't we...great rebuttal, though.. abandon the topic and make snide comments.

BTW I'm not nor have I ever been a cop.

..and you've obviously never had to deal with them in their natural state..angry, arrogant, armed and scared...

Do you think there should be any limit on cops weapons?
how about RPG's?
bazookas?
miniguns?
whatever they SAY they need is ok with you? no questions asked?

LMAO..rationalize the "need" for a mine resistant vehicle?
How many cops have been killed by mines in america?

 

[Rotagilla]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Might as well they have already given them grenade launchers!

They're good for dispersing tear gas. Never know when a riot may occur.

whatever..they'll push too far eventually...The math isn't in their favor..

 

[Stephanie]

Yes they did now guess WHO SUPPLIED it to them?







all those starry eyed cult memembers who thank him for his Fascist ObamaScaCare . can now bow and thank G-d for that dear leader militarizing your police to be used AGAINST YOU

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Intelligence isn't in your favor.

We'll see, won't we...great rebuttal, though.. abandon the topic and make snide comments.

BTW I'm not nor have I ever been a cop.

..and you've obviously never had to deal with them in their natural state..angry, arrogant, armed and scared...

Do you think there should be any limit on cops weapons?
how about RPG's?
bazookas?
miniguns?
whatever they SAY they need is ok with you? no questions asked?

LMAO..rationalize the "need" for a mine resistant vehicle?
How many cops have been killed by mines in america?

You have no idea what my experience is with law enforcement.

No there should not be any limits on what weapons a cop needs.

RPG's? I don't think it would be a bad idea to have one in the arsenal for special cases in which one would be useful.

Bazooka? Well I'm assuming you're referring to a type of rocket or grenade launcher which is useful in dispersing tear gas. If that's the case then yes they should have access to those.

Define "minigun". Are you referring to the M134, XM196, GAU-2.A, GAU-17/A?

It would depend on what they say they need and if they can make a strong case for needing it.

I see nothing wrong with them using repurposed MRAP's or MTV's.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Might as well they have already given them grenade launchers!

They're good for dispersing tear gas. Never know when a riot may occur.

whatever..they'll push too far eventually...The math isn't in their favor..

I'd like to see your math.

 

[Rotagilla]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Intelligence isn't in your favor.

We'll see, won't we...great rebuttal, though.. abandon the topic and make snide comments.

BTW I'm not nor have I ever been a cop.

..and you've obviously never had to deal with them in their natural state..angry, arrogant, armed and scared...

Do you think there should be any limit on cops weapons?
how about RPG's?
bazookas?
miniguns?
whatever they SAY they need is ok with you? no questions asked?

LMAO..rationalize the "need" for a mine resistant vehicle?
How many cops have been killed by mines in america?

You have no idea what my experience is with law enforcement.

No there should not be any limits on what weapons a cop needs.

RPG's? I don't think it would be a bad idea to have one in the arsenal for special cases in which one would be useful.

Bazooka? Well I'm assuming you're referring to a type of rocket or grenade launcher which is useful in dispersing tear gas. If that's the case then yes they should have access to those.

Define "minigun". Are you referring to the M134, XM196, GAU-2.A, GAU-17/A?

It would depend on what they say they need and if they can make a strong case for needing it.

I see nothing wrong with them using repurposed MRAP's or MTV's.

What about flamethrowers?..You'd support that, too, right?

cluster bombs? Why not?

Napalm? sure!

better get a bunker buster or two..you never know..

should probably get some tomahawk missles. Might need them..

you're a tool.


Hey..again..how many cops have been killed by landmines in america?..Seriously...

but they need MRAP's....just in case, right?

 

[Rotagilla]

I'd like to see your math.

My pleasure.

the total number of full and part time police and federal agents is 600,000 and that includes: dispatchers, forensics specialists, desk jockeys and totally useless management personal, bringing their number of armed and ready much lower and they would all have to deploy at once abandoning their posts.

Then the total number of all members the armed forces both active and reserve is 2,100,000 which includes: logistics, JAG, research/development and an equally useless management structure. Again the numbers of armed and ready troops would be much lower than the total. That brings the total number of ZOG personal that could possibly launch a takeover to 2,700,000 and likely less than 2,000,000 would actually be combat proficient and deployed.

This would require the immediate discontinuation of every zionist war and abandoning every single military base in other nations and moving the entire navy on land and leaving the ships and submarines unattended.

It would also cause a total standstill of all investigation and solving of any and all case in addition to abandoning all intelligence and reporting activities as all agents would be out on the streets. Not to mention that a large bulk of law enforcement are deputy sheriffs and marshals maintaining our 2,000,000 prison and jail populations, so they would have to abandon all prisons and jails to join in the battle. Then consider how many of these people would be unwilling to participate in this takeover anyway.

In comparison to the 117,000,000 gun owners in this nation and 300,000,000 citizens the ZOG army would be outnumbered 150 to 1 and outgunned 57 to 1.

Then factor out all the troops that would need to remain on foreign bases and ships as well as fighting ziowars and all the feds and police that would need to investigating/intelligence gathering as well as maintaining our incarcerated population as well a compensating for those who would have no part in it anyway and their numbers likely fall under 1,000,000. I think the old saying applies here:

"People can only be policed to the extent they are willing to be policed". At the end of the day they don't have the numbers or the capabilities to fight a war where they are outnumbered and outgunned well over 100 to 1.

Even by disarming some of the population and banning guns there will still be a ton of guns and the same shipments of drugs and guns coming in over the border. They banned drugs a long time ago, look how well that worked out.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Intelligence isn't in your favor.

We'll see, won't we...great rebuttal, though.. abandon the topic and make snide comments.

BTW I'm not nor have I ever been a cop.

..and you've obviously never had to deal with them in their natural state..angry, arrogant, armed and scared...

Do you think there should be any limit on cops weapons?
how about RPG's?
bazookas?
miniguns?
whatever they SAY they need is ok with you? no questions asked?

LMAO..rationalize the "need" for a mine resistant vehicle?
How many cops have been killed by mines in america?

You have no idea what my experience is with law enforcement.

No there should not be any limits on what weapons a cop needs.

RPG's? I don't think it would be a bad idea to have one in the arsenal for special cases in which one would be useful.

Bazooka? Well I'm assuming you're referring to a type of rocket or grenade launcher which is useful in dispersing tear gas. If that's the case then yes they should have access to those.

Define "minigun". Are you referring to the M134, XM196, GAU-2.A, GAU-17/A?

It would depend on what they say they need and if they can make a strong case for needing it.

I see nothing wrong with them using repurposed MRAP's or MTV's.

What about flamethrowers?..You'd support that, too, right?

cluster bombs? Why not?

Napalm? sure!

better get a bunker buster or two..you never know..

should probably get some tomahawk missles. Might need them..

you're a tool.


Hey..again..how many cops have been killed by landmines in america?..Seriously...

but they need MRAP's....just in case, right?

I see you're not willing to be reasonable. I should have expected as much from a nutcase like yourself.

MRAP are ambush protected the AP in MRAP so they are not just for resisting mines the MR in MRAP.

But yes an armored protected vehicle they get for FREE can be useful in many situations.

But hey, I don't expect an imbecile like you to understand.

 

[Desperado]

Let's take a logical look at this, the article is talking about small towns, however these small town are located in withing a major county in Florida, why in the world do these towns need major weapons. If they did come across something big they could call in the County Sheriff with the swat teams and heavy equipment and they would be there in less than 5 minutes.
I believe it is more of who has the bigger toys than a real need.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I'd like to see your math.

My pleasure.

the total number of full and part time police and federal agents is 600,000 and that includes: dispatchers, forensics specialists, desk jockeys and totally useless management personal, bringing their number of armed and ready much lower and they would all have to deploy at once abandoning their posts.

Then the total number of all members the armed forces both active and reserve is 2,100,000 which includes: logistics, JAG, research/development and an equally useless management structure. Again the numbers of armed and ready troops would be much lower than the total. That brings the total number of ZOG personal that could possibly launch a takeover to 2,700,000 and likely less than 2,000,000 would actually be combat proficient and deployed.

This would require the immediate discontinuation of every zionist war and abandoning every single military base in other nations and moving the entire navy on land and leaving the ships and submarines unattended.

It would also cause a total standstill of all investigation and solving of any and all case in addition to abandoning all intelligence and reporting activities as all agents would be out on the streets. Not to mention that a large bulk of law enforcement are deputy sheriffs and marshals maintaining our 2,000,000 prison and jail populations, so they would have to abandon all prisons and jails to join in the battle. Then consider how many of these people would be unwilling to participate in this takeover anyway.

In comparison to the 117,000,000 gun owners in this nation and 300,000,000 citizens the ZOG army would be outnumbered 150 to 1 and outgunned 57 to 1.

Then factor out all the troops that would need to remain on foreign bases and ships as well as fighting ziowars and all the feds and police that would need to investigating/intelligence gathering as well as maintaining our incarcerated population as well a compensating for those who would have no part in it anyway and their numbers likely fall under 1,000,000. I think the old saying applies here:

"People can only be policed to the extent they are willing to be policed". At the end of the day they don't have the numbers or the capabilities to fight a war where they are outnumbered and outgunned well over 100 to 1.

Even by disarming some of the population and banning guns there will still be a ton of guns and the same shipments of drugs and guns coming in over the border. They banned drugs a long time ago, look how well that worked out.

So your math is based on hypotheticals and assumptions.

Got it

 

[Rotagilla]

Who would be better to know what equipment is needed besides those that actually do the work?

It would be like me telling you what you did or didn't need to effectively perform your job.

In any potential firefight you want a superior weapon.

Yes that is how it works, it doesn't work by peons like yourself telling them what they do or do not need. It's obvious in this case the city council approved of the equipment.

The department request certain equipment and explains why they believe they need it. The city council discusses it and votes one way or the other. That is how it's done in most cities.

Worry about what's going on in YOUR town and let others worry about theirs.

typical arrogant cop attitude. Why not give them mortars and artillery, too...just in case, you know.

Every time a society collapses the first ones the people go after are the one's who have abused them the most.
Stick close to your friends. The math isn't in your favor.

Intelligence isn't in your favor.

We'll see, won't we...great rebuttal, though.. abandon the topic and make snide comments.

BTW I'm not nor have I ever been a cop.

..and you've obviously never had to deal with them in their natural state..angry, arrogant, armed and scared...

Do you think there should be any limit on cops weapons?
how about RPG's?
bazookas?
miniguns?
whatever they SAY they need is ok with you? no questions asked?

LMAO..rationalize the "need" for a mine resistant vehicle?
How many cops have been killed by mines in america?

You have no idea what my experience is with law enforcement.

No there should not be any limits on what weapons a cop needs.

RPG's? I don't think it would be a bad idea to have one in the arsenal for special cases in which one would be useful.

Bazooka? Well I'm assuming you're referring to a type of rocket or grenade launcher which is useful in dispersing tear gas. If that's the case then yes they should have access to those.

Define "minigun". Are you referring to the M134, XM196, GAU-2.A, GAU-17/A?

It would depend on what they say they need and if they can make a strong case for needing it.

I see nothing wrong with them using repurposed MRAP's or MTV's.

What about flamethrowers?..You'd support that, too, right?

cluster bombs? Why not?

Napalm? sure!

better get a bunker buster or two..you never know..

should probably get some tomahawk missles. Might need them..

you're a tool.


Hey..again..how many cops have been killed by landmines in america?..Seriously...

but they need MRAP's....just in case, right?

I see you're not willing to be reasonable. I should have expected as much from a nutcase like yourself.

MRAP are ambush protected the AP in MRAP so they are not just for resisting mines the MR in MRAP.

But yes an armored protected vehicle they get for FREE can be useful in many situations.

But hey, I don't expect an imbecile like you to understand.

You're the one that said they should decide what they need with no input from the public or anyone else..now you dodge and call me names.

Like I said..I hear those MRAP's make nice ovens.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Let's take a logical look at this, the article is talking about small towns, however these small town are located in withing a major county in Florida, why in the world do these towns need major weapons. If they did come across something big they could call in the County Sheriff with the swat teams and heavy equipment and they would be there in less than 5 minutes.
I believe it is more of who has the bigger toys than a real need.

What if the equipment needed is in use or loaned out to another municipality?

We are talking about equipment that is given to the police at no cost to the city.

I live in a small town an hour away from a big city. That five minute number was just pulled out of your ass. Which I suspect is where most of your thoughts originate.

 

[Rotagilla]

I'd like to see your math.

My pleasure.

the total number of full and part time police and federal agents is 600,000 and that includes: dispatchers, forensics specialists, desk jockeys and totally useless management personal, bringing their number of armed and ready much lower and they would all have to deploy at once abandoning their posts.

Then the total number of all members the armed forces both active and reserve is 2,100,000 which includes: logistics, JAG, research/development and an equally useless management structure. Again the numbers of armed and ready troops would be much lower than the total. That brings the total number of ZOG personal that could possibly launch a takeover to 2,700,000 and likely less than 2,000,000 would actually be combat proficient and deployed.

This would require the immediate discontinuation of every zionist war and abandoning every single military base in other nations and moving the entire navy on land and leaving the ships and submarines unattended.

It would also cause a total standstill of all investigation and solving of any and all case in addition to abandoning all intelligence and reporting activities as all agents would be out on the streets. Not to mention that a large bulk of law enforcement are deputy sheriffs and marshals maintaining our 2,000,000 prison and jail populations, so they would have to abandon all prisons and jails to join in the battle. Then consider how many of these people would be unwilling to participate in this takeover anyway.

In comparison to the 117,000,000 gun owners in this nation and 300,000,000 citizens the ZOG army would be outnumbered 150 to 1 and outgunned 57 to 1.

Then factor out all the troops that would need to remain on foreign bases and ships as well as fighting ziowars and all the feds and police that would need to investigating/intelligence gathering as well as maintaining our incarcerated population as well a compensating for those who would have no part in it anyway and their numbers likely fall under 1,000,000. I think the old saying applies here:

"People can only be policed to the extent they are willing to be policed". At the end of the day they don't have the numbers or the capabilities to fight a war where they are outnumbered and outgunned well over 100 to 1.

Even by disarming some of the population and banning guns there will still be a ton of guns and the same shipments of drugs and guns coming in over the border. They banned drugs a long time ago, look how well that worked out.

So your math is based on hypotheticals and assumptions.

Got it

The numbers are valid..you may disagree with the premise...but historically when a society breaks down the people go after the ones who have been abusing them the most.

Ok..try this..look up how many hunting licenses were issued last year.
some cops are hunters, so deduct a few thousand.

Look up how many cops there are..