Men can’t be men?

[WinterBorn]

I am a man. I have no problem asking women to help me practice full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work.

Why can't women, be Women?

You ask. They answer.

I can buy good help under capitalism with just money.

Yes you can. But even prostitutes can say no.

everyone can say no, usually; what is your point?

simply creating a straw man and defeating Him instead of the person you are arguing with, is not very Manly.

I was simply making the point that men get to decide whether you **** someone. And if equality, in your mind, means they are just like men, women get to decide for themselves. Equality does not mean they have to **** you.

 

[WinterBorn]

I keep seeing threads talking about how men are no longer allowed to be men.

What exactly does that mean? Who is not allowing you to “be a man”? And what are you not allowed to do?

If you have to ask what being a man means you must be a democrat Marxist dupe.

I guess it’s a good thing I didn’t ask what being a man means.

It’s the first thing you asked. What does it mean to be a man and your assertion that that is not being allowed.

I did not ask what it means to be a man. And I did not assert that it is not being allowed.

The OP:
"I keep seeing threads talking about how men are no longer allowed to be men.

What exactly does that mean? Who is not allowing you to “be a man”? And what are you not allowed to do?"

I keep seeing threads talking about how men are no longer allowed to be men.
All the first sentence said was that I have been seeing people claim men are no longer allowed to be men. I did not ask what it means to be a man and I did not assert anything.

What exactly does that mean? Who is not allowing you to “be a man”? And what are you not allowed to do?
In the second sentence I asked what that means. As in, what does it mean that men are not allowed to be men. Then I asked who is not allowing it, and what are they not allowing. Very simple, straight forward questions.

 

[danielpalos]

I am a man. I have no problem asking women to help me practice full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work.

Why can't women, be Women?

You ask. They answer.

I can buy good help under capitalism with just money.

Yes you can. But even prostitutes can say no.

everyone can say no, usually; what is your point?

simply creating a straw man and defeating Him instead of the person you are arguing with, is not very Manly.

I was simply making the point that men get to decide whether you **** someone. And if equality, in your mind, means they are just like men, women get to decide for themselves. Equality does not mean they have to **** you.

I never made that point. My point was about free full body massage with happy ending, under our form of Capitalism.

 

[Geaux4it]

A man used to be known as someone who worked hard and did what he could to get ahead. Today that is frowned upon

You didn't build that we were told

-Geaux

 

[WinterBorn]

You ask. They answer.

I can buy good help under capitalism with just money.

Yes you can. But even prostitutes can say no.

everyone can say no, usually; what is your point?

simply creating a straw man and defeating Him instead of the person you are arguing with, is not very Manly.

I was simply making the point that men get to decide whether you **** someone. And if equality, in your mind, means they are just like men, women get to decide for themselves. Equality does not mean they have to **** you.

I never made that point. My point was about free full body massage with happy ending, under our form of Capitalism.

You have repeatedly said that women, if they want equality, should be like men. You know, line up around the block.

The reality is, you offer and they decide whether they want it or now.

 

[WinterBorn]

A man used to be known as someone who worked hard and did what he could to get ahead. Today that is frowned upon

You didn't build that we were told

-Geaux

The point of that mess was that no one built stuff alone. But men build stuff all the time. If you build a company, and you know you built it, what else matters?

 

[danielpalos]

I can buy good help under capitalism with just money.

Yes you can. But even prostitutes can say no.

everyone can say no, usually; what is your point?

simply creating a straw man and defeating Him instead of the person you are arguing with, is not very Manly.

I was simply making the point that men get to decide whether you **** someone. And if equality, in your mind, means they are just like men, women get to decide for themselves. Equality does not mean they have to **** you.

I never made that point. My point was about free full body massage with happy ending, under our form of Capitalism.

You have repeatedly said that women, if they want equality, should be like men. You know, line up around the block.

The reality is, you offer and they decide whether they want it or now.

that has Never been my point, story teller; you have no arguments, only stories.

My point is, free is free and practice is practice; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

 

[Tresha91203]

My own 2 cents: I like the Marlboro Man, Sam Elliot, cowboys, bikers and "toxic masculinity." It gets me going. Not so much manbuns, pajama boys or metrosexuals. I wish men hadn't found their feminine side, personally.

The idea of "toxic" bothers me, but the rest is fine. Glad you like what you like.

I'm not much for all the work it takes to be a metrosexual and I only wear pajamas if I am in the hospital. Back when I had long hair I would do something with it to keep it out of the way if needed. Now it is not an issue.

So, no pajamas. That's good. No manbun: +2. Won't take longer than me to get ready: Triple Crown!!

I promise not to call you "toxic" if you promise to call me.

I promise to call you beautiful. How is that?

Be still my heart

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes you can. But even prostitutes can say no.

everyone can say no, usually; what is your point?

simply creating a straw man and defeating Him instead of the person you are arguing with, is not very Manly.

I was simply making the point that men get to decide whether you **** someone. And if equality, in your mind, means they are just like men, women get to decide for themselves. Equality does not mean they have to **** you.

I never made that point. My point was about free full body massage with happy ending, under our form of Capitalism.

You have repeatedly said that women, if they want equality, should be like men. You know, line up around the block.

The reality is, you offer and they decide whether they want it or now.

that has Never been my point, story teller; you have no arguments, only stories.

My point is, free is free and practice is practice; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Of course that has been your point. You have repeatedly said that if women want equality they should behave like men.

Here are some examples:
You posted “Why do women have any form of problem whatsoever, making appointments for full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work? Guys don't have a problem with it; no one who is Equal, should.”

You posted “under Capitalism and for free; there should be women waiting around chanting, "open, open, open".”

You posted “the same job is making appointments and not being Coy, but Equal, about it.”

You posted “women claim to want equality. guys would be in a line around the block.

i guess women are all talk and no action regarding Equality.”

 

[WinterBorn]

My own 2 cents: I like the Marlboro Man, Sam Elliot, cowboys, bikers and "toxic masculinity." It gets me going. Not so much manbuns, pajama boys or metrosexuals. I wish men hadn't found their feminine side, personally.

The idea of "toxic" bothers me, but the rest is fine. Glad you like what you like.

I'm not much for all the work it takes to be a metrosexual and I only wear pajamas if I am in the hospital. Back when I had long hair I would do something with it to keep it out of the way if needed. Now it is not an issue.

So, no pajamas. That's good. No manbun: +2. Won't take longer than me to get ready: Triple Crown!!

I promise not to call you "toxic" if you promise to call me.

I promise to call you beautiful. How is that?

Be still my heart

I aim to please, milady

 

[danielpalos]

everyone can say no, usually; what is your point?

simply creating a straw man and defeating Him instead of the person you are arguing with, is not very Manly.

I was simply making the point that men get to decide whether you **** someone. And if equality, in your mind, means they are just like men, women get to decide for themselves. Equality does not mean they have to **** you.

I never made that point. My point was about free full body massage with happy ending, under our form of Capitalism.

You have repeatedly said that women, if they want equality, should be like men. You know, line up around the block.

The reality is, you offer and they decide whether they want it or now.

that has Never been my point, story teller; you have no arguments, only stories.

My point is, free is free and practice is practice; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Of course that has been your point. You have repeatedly said that if women want equality they should behave like men.

Here are some examples:
You posted “Why do women have any form of problem whatsoever, making appointments for full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work? Guys don't have a problem with it; no one who is Equal, should.”

You posted “under Capitalism and for free; there should be women waiting around chanting, "open, open, open".”

You posted “the same job is making appointments and not being Coy, but Equal, about it.”

You posted “women claim to want equality. guys would be in a line around the block.

i guess women are all talk and no action regarding Equality.”

My point is, free is free and practice is practice under Any form of Capitalism but not socialism; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

 

[WinterBorn]

I was simply making the point that men get to decide whether you **** someone. And if equality, in your mind, means they are just like men, women get to decide for themselves. Equality does not mean they have to **** you.

I never made that point. My point was about free full body massage with happy ending, under our form of Capitalism.

You have repeatedly said that women, if they want equality, should be like men. You know, line up around the block.

The reality is, you offer and they decide whether they want it or now.

that has Never been my point, story teller; you have no arguments, only stories.

My point is, free is free and practice is practice; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Of course that has been your point. You have repeatedly said that if women want equality they should behave like men.

Here are some examples:
You posted “Why do women have any form of problem whatsoever, making appointments for full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work? Guys don't have a problem with it; no one who is Equal, should.”

You posted “under Capitalism and for free; there should be women waiting around chanting, "open, open, open".”

You posted “the same job is making appointments and not being Coy, but Equal, about it.”

You posted “women claim to want equality. guys would be in a line around the block.

i guess women are all talk and no action regarding Equality.”

My point is, free is free and practice is practice under Any form of Capitalism but not socialism; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Women's intuition is fine. Most reasonably attractive women have men hitting on them a lot. They learn to filter it.

Women "practice" when they want, for the most part. They get lots of offers and accept the ones from the men they are attracted to. If you want women to make appointments, find out what attracts them. If they are not attracted, the fact that it is free or practice doesn't matter.

 

[danielpalos]

I never made that point. My point was about free full body massage with happy ending, under our form of Capitalism.

You have repeatedly said that women, if they want equality, should be like men. You know, line up around the block.

The reality is, you offer and they decide whether they want it or now.

that has Never been my point, story teller; you have no arguments, only stories.

My point is, free is free and practice is practice; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Of course that has been your point. You have repeatedly said that if women want equality they should behave like men.

Here are some examples:
You posted “Why do women have any form of problem whatsoever, making appointments for full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work? Guys don't have a problem with it; no one who is Equal, should.”

You posted “under Capitalism and for free; there should be women waiting around chanting, "open, open, open".”

You posted “the same job is making appointments and not being Coy, but Equal, about it.”

You posted “women claim to want equality. guys would be in a line around the block.

i guess women are all talk and no action regarding Equality.”

My point is, free is free and practice is practice under Any form of Capitalism but not socialism; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Women's intuition is fine. Most reasonably attractive women have men hitting on them a lot. They learn to filter it.

Women "practice" when they want, for the most part. They get lots of offers and accept the ones from the men they are attracted to. If you want women to make appointments, find out what attracts them. If they are not attracted, the fact that it is free or practice doesn't matter.

why do women complain about inequality when there is no porn involved? Men don't complain about inequality in the non-porn sector; when are women, going to get equal?

 

[WinterBorn]

You have repeatedly said that women, if they want equality, should be like men. You know, line up around the block.

The reality is, you offer and they decide whether they want it or now.

that has Never been my point, story teller; you have no arguments, only stories.

My point is, free is free and practice is practice; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Of course that has been your point. You have repeatedly said that if women want equality they should behave like men.

Here are some examples:
You posted “Why do women have any form of problem whatsoever, making appointments for full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work? Guys don't have a problem with it; no one who is Equal, should.”

You posted “under Capitalism and for free; there should be women waiting around chanting, "open, open, open".”

You posted “the same job is making appointments and not being Coy, but Equal, about it.”

You posted “women claim to want equality. guys would be in a line around the block.

i guess women are all talk and no action regarding Equality.”

My point is, free is free and practice is practice under Any form of Capitalism but not socialism; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Women's intuition is fine. Most reasonably attractive women have men hitting on them a lot. They learn to filter it.

Women "practice" when they want, for the most part. They get lots of offers and accept the ones from the men they are attracted to. If you want women to make appointments, find out what attracts them. If they are not attracted, the fact that it is free or practice doesn't matter.

why do women complain about inequality when there is no porn involved? Men don't complain about inequality in the non-porn sector; when are women, going to get equal?

Women complain about inequality when they are paid less for performing the exact same job. Porn has nothing to do with it.

First you talk about free practice. Then about porn. Neither is relevant.

How about getting back to the actual topic?

 

[danielpalos]

that has Never been my point, story teller; you have no arguments, only stories.

My point is, free is free and practice is practice; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Of course that has been your point. You have repeatedly said that if women want equality they should behave like men.

Here are some examples:
You posted “Why do women have any form of problem whatsoever, making appointments for full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work? Guys don't have a problem with it; no one who is Equal, should.”

You posted “under Capitalism and for free; there should be women waiting around chanting, "open, open, open".”

You posted “the same job is making appointments and not being Coy, but Equal, about it.”

You posted “women claim to want equality. guys would be in a line around the block.

i guess women are all talk and no action regarding Equality.”

My point is, free is free and practice is practice under Any form of Capitalism but not socialism; is it Any wonder, women have such lousy female intuition, even with high numbers and plenty of practice.

Women's intuition is fine. Most reasonably attractive women have men hitting on them a lot. They learn to filter it.

Women "practice" when they want, for the most part. They get lots of offers and accept the ones from the men they are attracted to. If you want women to make appointments, find out what attracts them. If they are not attracted, the fact that it is free or practice doesn't matter.

why do women complain about inequality when there is no porn involved? Men don't complain about inequality in the non-porn sector; when are women, going to get equal?

Women complain about inequality when they are paid less for performing the exact same job. Porn has nothing to do with it.

First you talk about free practice. Then about porn. Neither is relevant.

How about getting back to the actual topic?

lol. maybe they aren't doing the job like guys who Are equal?

Right wing Bakers employing Bakers' morals and Bakers' dozens, can say the same thing.

 

[Paulie]

People are who they are. If someone doesn’t want to be a violent, emotionless sociopath, that is their choice.

No one is forcing you to not be a man. Society will prosecute you if you assault someone. But other than that, why do you care what the PC crowd wants?

A Rooer Society only works when there are accepted roles for people and those roles are embraced. When Men start acting like women and women embrace Feminism over femininity, Society as a whole breaks down.

Horseshit. Despite what you claim, society is in better shape than ever.

You want people to be what you want them to be. And you think life is supposed to be about suffering. Sorry, but most of us don’t agree with that. Society does NOT break down if women demand equality.

^ this is coming from a guy who admittedly lives a sexual lifestyle where a woman plays a subservient role to the man.. the fact that that is what you need to be turned on sexually says an awful lot about where you place women in society

 

[WinterBorn]

People are who they are. If someone doesn’t want to be a violent, emotionless sociopath, that is their choice.

No one is forcing you to not be a man. Society will prosecute you if you assault someone. But other than that, why do you care what the PC crowd wants?

A Rooer Society only works when there are accepted roles for people and those roles are embraced. When Men start acting like women and women embrace Feminism over femininity, Society as a whole breaks down.

Horseshit. Despite what you claim, society is in better shape than ever.

You want people to be what you want them to be. And you think life is supposed to be about suffering. Sorry, but most of us don’t agree with that. Society does NOT break down if women demand equality.

^ this is coming from a guy who admittedly lives a sexual lifestyle where a woman plays a subservient role to the man.. the fact that that is what you need to be turned on sexually says an awful lot about where you place women in society

What? Who the hell are you talking about.

 

[WinterBorn]

People are who they are. If someone doesn’t want to be a violent, emotionless sociopath, that is their choice.

No one is forcing you to not be a man. Society will prosecute you if you assault someone. But other than that, why do you care what the PC crowd wants?

A Rooer Society only works when there are accepted roles for people and those roles are embraced. When Men start acting like women and women embrace Feminism over femininity, Society as a whole breaks down.

Horseshit. Despite what you claim, society is in better shape than ever.

You want people to be what you want them to be. And you think life is supposed to be about suffering. Sorry, but most of us don’t agree with that. Society does NOT break down if women demand equality.

^ this is coming from a guy who admittedly lives a sexual lifestyle where a woman plays a subservient role to the man.. the fact that that is what you need to be turned on sexually says an awful lot about where you place women in society

If this comment is aimed at me, I would love to hear what lifestyle you think I live that involves a woman in subservient role.

 

[Paulie]

People are who they are. If someone doesn’t want to be a violent, emotionless sociopath, that is their choice.

No one is forcing you to not be a man. Society will prosecute you if you assault someone. But other than that, why do you care what the PC crowd wants?

A Rooer Society only works when there are accepted roles for people and those roles are embraced. When Men start acting like women and women embrace Feminism over femininity, Society as a whole breaks down.

Horseshit. Despite what you claim, society is in better shape than ever.

You want people to be what you want them to be. And you think life is supposed to be about suffering. Sorry, but most of us don’t agree with that. Society does NOT break down if women demand equality.

^ this is coming from a guy who admittedly lives a sexual lifestyle where a woman plays a subservient role to the man.. the fact that that is what you need to be turned on sexually says an awful lot about where you place women in society

If this comment is aimed at me, I would love to hear what lifestyle you think I live that involves a woman in subservient role.

I've seen you discuss the D/s lifestyle with you as the D

 

[WinterBorn]

People are who they are. If someone doesn’t want to be a violent, emotionless sociopath, that is their choice.

No one is forcing you to not be a man. Society will prosecute you if you assault someone. But other than that, why do you care what the PC crowd wants?

A Rooer Society only works when there are accepted roles for people and those roles are embraced. When Men start acting like women and women embrace Feminism over femininity, Society as a whole breaks down.

Horseshit. Despite what you claim, society is in better shape than ever.

You want people to be what you want them to be. And you think life is supposed to be about suffering. Sorry, but most of us don’t agree with that. Society does NOT break down if women demand equality.

^ this is coming from a guy who admittedly lives a sexual lifestyle where a woman plays a subservient role to the man.. the fact that that is what you need to be turned on sexually says an awful lot about where you place women in society

If this comment is aimed at me, I would love to hear what lifestyle you think I live that involves a woman in subservient role.

I've seen you discuss the D/s lifestyle with you as the D

Indeed I have. Do you think I force women into D/s scenes? Do you think they did not seek out a Dom?

If you have seen me discuss D/s, you should have paid attention. Nothing I have said shows me to place women anywhere lower in society. If anything, I am catering to what she wants.

Also, my occasional play does not, in any way, describe the entirety of what turns me on.