Medicare for all capitalism is what Republicans should want:

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I have Medicare and it works great. The OP is stupid, just making stuff up.

Works great? How stupid it costs 4 times what other countries pay!! You mean it's great because it's free and you feel entitled to Leech off of other people??

Link?

You want to link to demonstrate that you think it works great because it's free and you get to leech off of other people?

I better write my congressman, I want what I've been paying into it for many years and also my Part B premium I pay monthly. No one told me it was free, the sob's been taking advantage of an old person.

It's not free at all. It cost 3 to 4 times what comparable care would cost in other countries and half of it is paid for out of general revenue. Medicare capitalism for all would reduce price 80% and be enough to quickly pay off the national debt. It's amazing how stupid liberals can't see beyond paying 3 to 4 times what other people pay of course Joseph Stallon didn't see the failure of his programs either even as 60 million we're slowly starving to death and to this day Cuba thanks it's on the right liberal socialist path

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

All the doctors who are willing to work for 80% less are in Canada Europe Japan Australia 1+1 = 2

You wanna back THAT one up?

Of course not.
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You need back up to know that Floridians are rich and Cubans are poor?? See why we are positive that liberalism is based pure ignorance

And by the way, show us the math on that idiotic "pay off the debt in six years" horse shit.

I'll wait here for those two gems.
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If you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off the national debt ?? Isn't thinking fun?

Thinking is indeed fun. So is math.

You're really bad at this. When you make wild claims that you can't back up, you look foolish. And ignorant. And dishonest.

Maybe just avoid using numbers in the future. Faking it in front of people who understand them just isn't going to fly.
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For third time if you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off national debt?? How will you learn if you are afraid to try

 

[Mac1958]

You wanna back THAT one up?

Of course not.
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You need back up to know that Floridians are rich and Cubans are poor?? See why we are positive that liberalism is based pure ignorance

And by the way, show us the math on that idiotic "pay off the debt in six years" horse shit.

I'll wait here for those two gems.
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If you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off the national debt ?? Isn't thinking fun?

Thinking is indeed fun. So is math.

You're really bad at this. When you make wild claims that you can't back up, you look foolish. And ignorant. And dishonest.

Maybe just avoid using numbers in the future. Faking it in front of people who understand them just isn't going to fly.
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For third time if you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off national debt?? How will you learn if you are afraid to try

.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

But you said no one would work for 80% less and now you're apparently agreeing that in those countries they do work for 80% percent less do you understand how you contradicted yourself

Their salaries are subsidized by the government.

Are you ready for the same here in republican capitalist America?

Ready for Medicare for all capitalism which will drive down prices 80% and enable us to pay off the national debt in six years as per OP.

 

[Mac1958]

Are there any other conservatives here who would like to take a crack at these numbers?

80% savings? Pay off the debt in six years?

I hope not.
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[EdwardBaiamonte]

You need back up to know that Floridians are rich and Cubans are poor?? See why we are positive that liberalism is based pure ignorance

And by the way, show us the math on that idiotic "pay off the debt in six years" horse shit.

I'll wait here for those two gems.
.

If you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off the national debt ?? Isn't thinking fun?

Thinking is indeed fun. So is math.

You're really bad at this. When you make wild claims that you can't back up, you look foolish. And ignorant. And dishonest.

Maybe just avoid using numbers in the future. Faking it in front of people who understand them just isn't going to fly.
.

For third time if you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off national debt?? How will you learn if you are afraid to try

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Ever see a conservative or libertarian who is afraid to answer a question and must run from a debate. What does the liberal learn from his fear?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Are there any other conservatives here who would like to take a crack at these numbers?

80% savings? Pay off the debt in six years?

I hope not.
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If you think the numbers are mistaken please say exactly why or admit that you lack the IQ to participate substantively

 

[Manonthestreet]

It was a few months after my husband left the hospital from his heart attack that we ran into one of the nurses who cared for him — at a presidential campaign event, no less. One chat led to another and the subject of socialized health care was raised. And this is what the nurse said: Had my husband been on Medicare or Medicaid at the time of his heart attack, the doctors would have quit their life-saving efforts long before his 10 comatose days had ended. Why? Because the government health care plan wouldn’t have paid for the around-the-clock intensive care. The situation would’ve quickly evolved into a pull the plug, wait and see what happens type of deal. My husband would’ve died with Obamacare

 

[Mac1958]

Are there any other conservatives here who would like to take a crack at these numbers?

80% savings? Pay off the debt in six years?

I hope not.
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If you think the numbers are mistaken please say exactly why or admit that you lack the IQ to participate substantively

I'm just asking you to back up your numbers.

I'm still waiting.

Not only are you avoiding doing so, but you're still attacking. It's no fun for me to pound on someone who doesn't even realize he's bleeding.
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[JakeStarkey]

You wanna back THAT one up?

Of course not.
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You need back up to know that Floridians are rich and Cubans are poor?? See why we are positive that liberalism is based pure ignorance

And by the way, show us the math on that idiotic "pay off the debt in six years" horse shit.

I'll wait here for those two gems.
.

If you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off the national debt ?? Isn't thinking fun?

Thinking is indeed fun. So is math.

You're really bad at this. When you make wild claims that you can't back up, you look foolish. And ignorant. And dishonest.

Maybe just avoid using numbers in the future. Faking it in front of people who understand them just isn't going to fly.
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For third time if you save 80% of $10,000 how long does it take you to pay off national debt?? How will you learn if you are afraid to try

You don't understand the math, and you cannot explain your theory of economics.

 

[debbiedowner]

It was a few months after my husband left the hospital from his heart attack that we ran into one of the nurses who cared for him — at a presidential campaign event, no less. One chat led to another and the subject of socialized health care was raised. And this is what the nurse said: Had my husband been on Medicare or Medicaid at the time of his heart attack, the doctors would have quit their life-saving efforts long before his 10 comatose days had ended. Why? Because the government health care plan wouldn’t have paid for the around-the-clock intensive care. The situation would’ve quickly evolved into a pull the plug, wait and see what happens type of deal. My husband would’ve died with Obamacare

Well I guess that just depends on what hospital and how much they want to make or save a life.

BIL 85 years old Medicare, hospital 3 weeks moved to a specialty hospital for 2 weeks after that, moved to skilled nursing for 3 weeks after that, he did not cooperate at the skilled nursing facility and take meds and died. Over and over again in my area I see this and say why don't they let these people go. Well it's about the money because if they can prove to Medicare it is medically necessary it will keep going on and on.

If you're husband is under 65 and had health insurance he's been on obamacare for the past 4 years.

 

[Mr Natural]

It sounds as if our current libcommie socialist healthcare system is not libcommie socialist enough for Special Ed.

I'd like to know where those $10,000 payments are going to come from.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Are there any other conservatives here who would like to take a crack at these numbers?

80% savings? Pay off the debt in six years?

I hope not.
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If you think the numbers are mistaken please say exactly why or admit that you lack the IQ to participate substantively

I'm just asking you to back up your numbers.

I'm still waiting.

Not only are you avoiding doing so, but you're still attacking. It's no fun for me to pound on someone who doesn't even realize he's bleeding.
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What number exactly?? You want to know Cuban average income versus American average income?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It sounds as if our current libcommie socialist healthcare system is not libcommie socialist enough for Special Ed.

I'd like to know where those $10,000 payments are going to come from.

$10,000 payments for every man woman and child in America would come from the federal government since that is what We pay now for healthcare do you understand

 

[Mac1958]

Are there any other conservatives here who would like to take a crack at these numbers?

80% savings? Pay off the debt in six years?

I hope not.
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If you think the numbers are mistaken please say exactly why or admit that you lack the IQ to participate substantively

I'm just asking you to back up your numbers.

I'm still waiting.

Not only are you avoiding doing so, but you're still attacking. It's no fun for me to pound on someone who doesn't even realize he's bleeding.
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What number exactly?? You want to know Cuban average income versus American average income?

Too funny.

Tell ya what, I'll make you a deal.

Find just one (1) other poster who agrees with your numbers and let me know. Maybe THEY can back up your 80% savings claim and your "pay off the debt in six years" claim. I realize you can't.

Let me know when that happens. Thanks.
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[EdwardBaiamonte]

Are there any other conservatives here who would like to take a crack at these numbers?

80% savings? Pay off the debt in six years?

I hope not.
.

If you think the numbers are mistaken please say exactly why or admit that you lack the IQ to participate substantively

I'm just asking you to back up your numbers.

I'm still waiting.

Not only are you avoiding doing so, but you're still attacking. It's no fun for me to pound on someone who doesn't even realize he's bleeding.
.

What number exactly?? You want to know Cuban average income versus American average income?

Too funny.

Tell ya what, I'll make you a deal.

Find just one (1) other poster who agrees with your numbers and let me know. Maybe THEY can back up your 80% savings claim and your "pay off the debt in six years" claim. I realize you can't.

Let me know when that happens. Thanks.
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Actually the CIA ,the world bank, and the OECD All have statistics about the difference between east and west Germany, Cuba Florida, Taiwan Communist China, Hong Kong communist China, North Korea South Korea, USA USSR, there is a new invention called the Internet where you can actually look things up yourself

 

[Mac1958]

Are there any other conservatives here who would like to take a crack at these numbers?

80% savings? Pay off the debt in six years?

I hope not.
.

If you think the numbers are mistaken please say exactly why or admit that you lack the IQ to participate substantively

I'm just asking you to back up your numbers.

I'm still waiting.

Not only are you avoiding doing so, but you're still attacking. It's no fun for me to pound on someone who doesn't even realize he's bleeding.
.

What number exactly?? You want to know Cuban average income versus American average income?

Too funny.

Tell ya what, I'll make you a deal.

Find just one (1) other poster who agrees with your numbers and let me know. Maybe THEY can back up your 80% savings claim and your "pay off the debt in six years" claim. I realize you can't.

Let me know when that happens. Thanks.
.

Actually the CIA ,the world bank, and the OECD All have statistics about the difference between east and west Germany, Cuba Florida, Taiwan Communist China, Hong Kong communist China, North Korea South Korea, USA USSR, there is a new invention called the Internet where you can actually look things up yourself

Great, then use the internet to back up YOUR statistics. That's YOUR responsibility.

You're an adult, right? Adults are responsible for their words. Man up, let's go.

80% savings. Pay off the debt in six months. Back 'em up. Or find someone who can.

Which won't happen.
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[EdwardBaiamonte]

If you think the numbers are mistaken please say exactly why or admit that you lack the IQ to participate substantively

I'm just asking you to back up your numbers.

I'm still waiting.

Not only are you avoiding doing so, but you're still attacking. It's no fun for me to pound on someone who doesn't even realize he's bleeding.
.

What number exactly?? You want to know Cuban average income versus American average income?

Too funny.

Tell ya what, I'll make you a deal.

Find just one (1) other poster who agrees with your numbers and let me know. Maybe THEY can back up your 80% savings claim and your "pay off the debt in six years" claim. I realize you can't.

Let me know when that happens. Thanks.
.

Actually the CIA ,the world bank, and the OECD All have statistics about the difference between east and west Germany, Cuba Florida, Taiwan Communist China, Hong Kong communist China, North Korea South Korea, USA USSR, there is a new invention called the Internet where you can actually look things up yourself

Great, then use the internet to back up YOUR statistics. That's YOUR responsibility.

You're an adult, right? Adults are responsible for their words. Man up, let's go.

80% savings. Pay off the debt in six months. Back 'em up. Or find someone who can.

Which won't happen.

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op:
This would reduce prices 80%. The savings could pay off the national debt in 6 years!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

80% savings. Pay off the debt in six months. Back 'em up. Or find someone who can.

Which won't happen.

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op:
This would reduce prices 80%. The savings could pay off the national debt in 6 years!!

op:
This would reduce prices 80%. The savings could pay off the national debt in 6 years!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Medicare currently spends less than ten thousand dollars per person per year. That is taking care of the retired and disabled. Let everyone in on Medicare. Here is how you do it.

Currently, about one fourth of Medicare spending is through the Medicare Advantage program. In that program the government pays private insurance companies to take over the responsibilities of Medicare. It is a per month payment on a yearly contract. Let everyone in. Let the private companies bid for the contract and compete for the customers. Charge a single, per person, community rated premium. That means, the more young people a company enrolls the lower their cost and the higher their profits. They will, in turn, use some of those profits to lower their bid the next year. It is the very result of "free market" principals the right constantly talk about. It will work, insurance companies will still make money and everyone's cost will go down.

Why not respond to OP or explain why your plan is better than OP plan