Media: we're deeply concerned about the cost of mass deportations!Also the media: never once ever asked how much mass immigration costs taxpayers

[excalibur]

Naturally.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Natually.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

This is the problem. The Dems.see future.voters that they need because America far and wide have rejected them. Media.is trying to desperately.keep those future.voters. If medis coverage was.fair and.not 95% biased against the GOP, fair as it was.in Reagans day, Trunp would have had a Reagan landslide almost certainly. The cost of illegal.immigration is broad and expensive, economically,.spiritually and otherwise. It actually bothers legal.immigrants the most since they went through so much to enter America the right way.

 

[JGalt]

Natually.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

Natually.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

Sounds to me like the media has reached the bargaining stage in the "5 stages of grief."

There's a lot of that going on now.

 

[Polishprince]

Its always amusing how a Republican President can transform the most spendthrift leftist into a miserly skinflint over night. Suddenly concerned about balancing the budget.

 

[Votto]

Naturally.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

The media also never asked how much it cost American tax payers to fly Haitians by air into the US by the hundreds of thousands.

And they never asked the local residents where they were dumped if it was OK.

They basically dumped them all and labeled anyone who complained a racist MAGA type.

 

[EMH]

Cost of government only bothers left wing traitors when it is cost they do not like.

What is the cost of the Co2 FRAUD? A - over $20 trillion

What is the cost of socializing senior drugs at a retail price? A - over one trillion, likely now about 5

How much money was looted from FEMA to pay for illegals so they could vote Dem? A - media does not care

What is the cost of paying the Mayor's re-election campaign officials to "work" as $200k+ per year Education "Managers" enforcing homosexual doctrine in public education? A - media does not care

 

[crossbody]

We don't care about the price... one billion, two billion

Let's get these illegals out of America! Especially the rapists and murderers.

 

[EMH]

We don't care about the price... one billion, two billion

Let's get these illegals out of America! Especially the rapists and murderers.

What is the price of prosecuting a murder? A - a lot

What is the cost of putting someone in prison for a year? A - a lot



"Reagan's deficits" (really Dem Congress' deficits) were a big problem according to the media. W's deficits did not matter at all. W's deficits were 5 times bigger. The media did not care.


The media is the problem. The media needs to be part of those prosecuted for Co2 FRAUD, for starters...

 

[Polishprince]

Why don't we use the $25,000 grants we were going to give away for 1st time homeowners? Or the money we won't be using to pay off student loans? Or the money we won't be using for free sex change operations for convicts?

 

[Winston]

Naturally.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

Soviet ideology? The Soviet Union practiced mass deportations during WWII, entire nationalities. Thought you might want to be aware of that.

And cost of immigrants, that is a lame claim that has been completely fabricated. I could post countless white papers and studies, quote dozens of economists, all supporting the reality that immigrants, both illegal and legal, provide a greater economic benefit than they cost, and that would be just looking at dollars. There are dozens of benefits that have nothing to do with dollars and cents and sometimes, those benefits can pop up after two or three generations. Instead, a history lesson.

Early 18th century, Colonial North Carolina. Sparsely populated, especially in the West, for a couple of reasons. Native Americans had consistently driven out the settlers, starting with Juan Pardo's attempt to establish outposts earlier in the 16th century. But second, the rivers, they were everywhere and essentially closed off any community that did manage to take root.

The governor, Charles Eden, needed residents. He came up with a plan. He would grant amnesty, provide a full pardon, to anyone and everyone that agreed to locate in the state, no matter the crime or the location. The most famous criminal to take him up on the offer, Blackbeard, the notorious pirate. He was granted a full pardon, took a wife and made an attempt at the straight life, it just didn't fit his temperament.

That wasn't the case for most of those that accepted those pardons and asylum. Criminals, yes real criminals, flooded the state. Especially in the West. Interesting enough, this is precisely the time frame that my ancestors first entered North Carolina. The population grew, and those that wanted to be truly left alone and get a fresh start headed for the mountains.

Now, flash forward to the Revolutionary War. Washington sends Hamilton to North Carolina tasking him with estimating how many North Carolinians could be counted on to volunteer for the Continental Army. When he came back his response was blunt, "ZERO".

The residents of North Carolina, and again, especially in the mountains, they didn't give two shits. Isolated, much like how many of them are now, after the hurricane damage, they were content in the communities they had forged out of that wilderness. They had built a relationship with the Native American tribes, mostly the Cherokee and the Catawba. They were independent, and free, not insignificantly from the past of their parents. In fact, for years the license plate of North Carolina proudly displayed "First in Freedom", to the chagrin of the rest of the nation.

But then, Butcher Tarlton and his dragoons showed up. The Waxhaw massacre happened, Andrew Jackson just a kid witnessing the entire thing. Then, all hell broke loose. They were called the overmountain men. This nation owes them a great debt for without them we would be singing "God Save the King" before every MLB game.

You cannot convince me that the war did not turn in the South, primarily at King's Mountain. And it was not Americans against British, or even German mercenaries. It was Americans against Americans. King's Mountain was the turning point. And there was one British military officer on that field, Fergunson.

History does not give that battle justice, nor does it even paint an accurate picture. Sure, we came out with a victory, but what they don't tell you is that those Overmountainmen marched there with their wives, mostly Native Americans, and their kids, swaddled around their wives' bellies, reloading the muskets. While often disputed, I know precisely who shot Fergunson off his horse, well at least one of the people, he was hit multiple times. That long rifle is on display at a local museum. How that rifle got to the battlefield is a story in itself, borrowed, from the old father, or my great great, damn, I am not going to go to Ancestry.com to find out how many times, grandfather.

Waxhaw massacre, Battle of Ramsuer's Mill, Battle of King's mountain, Biggerstaff's Field. There, there you have the history of this nation, and it is all due to the actions of one governor, all due to completely open borders and a free fresh start.

It appears we have come full circle. Today, it is Americans against Americans, just as divided as we were prior to the Civil War, maybe as divided as we were during the American Revolution. Mark my words, this nation's very beginning, very existence, hinges on Eden's pardons and open borders. Mass deportation and closing the border will signal the end of this nation. It might take fifty or sixty years, but it is coming if we adopt Trump's policies.

Those that forget the mistakes of the past are destined to repeat them.

 

[JGalt]

Soviet ideology? The Soviet Union practiced mass deportations during WWII, entire nationalities. Thought you might want to be aware of that.

And cost of immigrants, that is a lame claim that has been completely fabricated. I could post countless white papers and studies, quote dozens of economists, all supporting the reality that immigrants, both illegal and legal, provide a greater economic benefit than they cost, and that would be just looking at dollars. There are dozens of benefits that have nothing to do with dollars and cents and sometimes, those benefits can pop up after two or three generations. Instead, a history lesson.

Early 18th century, Colonial North Carolina. Sparsely populated, especially in the West, for a couple of reasons. Native Americans had consistently driven out the settlers, starting with Juan Pardo's attempt to establish outposts earlier in the 16th century. But second, the rivers, they were everywhere and essentially closed off any community that did manage to take root.

The governor, Charles Eden, needed residents. He came up with a plan. He would grant amnesty, provide a full pardon, to anyone and everyone that agreed to locate in the state, no matter the crime or the location. The most famous criminal to take him up on the offer, Blackbeard, the notorious pirate. He was granted a full pardon, took a wife and made an attempt at the straight life, it just didn't fit his temperament.

That wasn't the case for most of those that accepted those pardons and asylum. Criminals, yes real criminals, flooded the state. Especially in the West. Interesting enough, this is precisely the time frame that my ancestors first entered North Carolina. The population grew, and those that wanted to be truly left alone and get a fresh start headed for the mountains.

Now, flash forward to the Revolutionary War. Washington sends Hamilton to North Carolina tasking him with estimating how many North Carolinians could be counted on to volunteer for the Continental Army. When he came back his response was blunt, "ZERO".

The residents of North Carolina, and again, especially in the mountains, they didn't give two shits. Isolated, much like how many of them are now, after the hurricane damage, they were content in the communities they had forged out of that wilderness. They had built a relationship with the Native American tribes, mostly the Cherokee and the Catawba. They were independent, and free, not insignificantly from the past of their parents. In fact, for years the license plate of North Carolina proudly displayed "First in Freedom", to the chagrin of the rest of the nation.

But then, Butcher Tarlton and his dragoons showed up. The Waxhaw massacre happened, Andrew Jackson just a kid witnessing the entire thing. Then, all hell broke loose. They were called the overmountain men. This nation owes them a great debt for without them we would be singing "God Save the King" before every MLB game.

You cannot convince me that the war did not turn in the South, primarily at King's Mountain. And it was not Americans against British, or even German mercenaries. It was Americans against Americans. King's Mountain was the turning point. And there was one British military officer on that field, Fergunson.

History does not give that battle justice, nor does it even paint an accurate picture. Sure, we came out with a victory, but what they don't tell you is that those Overmountainmen marched there with their wives, mostly Native Americans, and their kids, swaddled around their wives' bellies, reloading the muskets. While often disputed, I know precisely who shot Fergunson off his horse, well at least one of the people, he was hit multiple times. That long rifle is on display at a local museum. How that rifle got to the battlefield is a story in itself, borrowed, from the old father, or my great great, damn, I am not going to go to Ancestry.com to find out how many times, grandfather.

Waxhaw massacre, Battle of Ramsuer's Mill, Battle of King's mountain, Biggerstaff's Field. There, there you have the history of this nation, and it is all due to the actions of one governor, all due to completely open borders and a free fresh start.

It appears we have come full circle. Today, it is Americans against Americans, just as divided as we were prior to the Civil War, maybe as divided as we were during the American Revolution. Mark my words, this nation's very beginning, very existence, hinges on Eden's pardons and open borders. Mass deportation and closing the border will signal the end of this nation. It might take fifty or sixty years, but it is coming if we adopt Trump's policies.

Those that forget the mistakes of the past are destined to repeat them.

Bringing them in here in the fist place was the "mistake."

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Soviet ideology? The Soviet Union practiced mass deportations during WWII, entire nationalities. Thought you might want to be aware of that.

And cost of immigrants, that is a lame claim that has been completely fabricated. I could post countless white papers and studies, quote dozens of economists, all supporting the reality that immigrants, both illegal and legal, provide a greater economic benefit than they cost, and that would be just looking at dollars. There are dozens of benefits that have nothing to do with dollars and cents and sometimes, those benefits can pop up after two or three generations. Instead, a history lesson.

Early 18th century, Colonial North Carolina. Sparsely populated, especially in the West, for a couple of reasons. Native Americans had consistently driven out the settlers, starting with Juan Pardo's attempt to establish outposts earlier in the 16th century. But second, the rivers, they were everywhere and essentially closed off any community that did manage to take root.

The governor, Charles Eden, needed residents. He came up with a plan. He would grant amnesty, provide a full pardon, to anyone and everyone that agreed to locate in the state, no matter the crime or the location. The most famous criminal to take him up on the offer, Blackbeard, the notorious pirate. He was granted a full pardon, took a wife and made an attempt at the straight life, it just didn't fit his temperament.

That wasn't the case for most of those that accepted those pardons and asylum. Criminals, yes real criminals, flooded the state. Especially in the West. Interesting enough, this is precisely the time frame that my ancestors first entered North Carolina. The population grew, and those that wanted to be truly left alone and get a fresh start headed for the mountains.

Now, flash forward to the Revolutionary War. Washington sends Hamilton to North Carolina tasking him with estimating how many North Carolinians could be counted on to volunteer for the Continental Army. When he came back his response was blunt, "ZERO".

The residents of North Carolina, and again, especially in the mountains, they didn't give two shits. Isolated, much like how many of them are now, after the hurricane damage, they were content in the communities they had forged out of that wilderness. They had built a relationship with the Native American tribes, mostly the Cherokee and the Catawba. They were independent, and free, not insignificantly from the past of their parents. In fact, for years the license plate of North Carolina proudly displayed "First in Freedom", to the chagrin of the rest of the nation.

But then, Butcher Tarlton and his dragoons showed up. The Waxhaw massacre happened, Andrew Jackson just a kid witnessing the entire thing. Then, all hell broke loose. They were called the overmountain men. This nation owes them a great debt for without them we would be singing "God Save the King" before every MLB game.

You cannot convince me that the war did not turn in the South, primarily at King's Mountain. And it was not Americans against British, or even German mercenaries. It was Americans against Americans. King's Mountain was the turning point. And there was one British military officer on that field, Fergunson.

History does not give that battle justice, nor does it even paint an accurate picture. Sure, we came out with a victory, but what they don't tell you is that those Overmountainmen marched there with their wives, mostly Native Americans, and their kids, swaddled around their wives' bellies, reloading the muskets. While often disputed, I know precisely who shot Fergunson off his horse, well at least one of the people, he was hit multiple times. That long rifle is on display at a local museum. How that rifle got to the battlefield is a story in itself, borrowed, from the old father, or my great great, damn, I am not going to go to Ancestry.com to find out how many times, grandfather.

Waxhaw massacre, Battle of Ramsuer's Mill, Battle of King's mountain, Biggerstaff's Field. There, there you have the history of this nation, and it is all due to the actions of one governor, all due to completely open borders and a free fresh start.

It appears we have come full circle. Today, it is Americans against Americans, just as divided as we were prior to the Civil War, maybe as divided as we were during the American Revolution. Mark my words, this nation's very beginning, very existence, hinges on Eden's pardons and open borders. Mass deportation and closing the border will signal the end of this nation. It might take fifty or sixty years, but it is coming if we adopt Trump's policies.

Those that forget the mistakes of the past are destined to repeat them.

^^^^^^^^^^^

This one still believes the democrat spin they are importing doctors , engineers and IT professionals .

 

[Winston]

Bringing them in here in the fist place was the "mistake."

Are you saying Governor Eden made a mistake? Seriously?

 

[JGalt]

Are you saying Governor Eden made a mistake? Seriously?

No, I'm saying Biden/Harris made a mistake, and they paid for it big time. We could have easily handled the number of illegals we had before they started welcoming them in wholesale. Now it's going to take a considerable effort to identify them, locate them, and deport them out of the country.

We could have saved the country a lot of time, money, and lives had the Biden/Harris regime not thought it was a good idea to import 10-20 million more than we had in 2020. And because of their idiotic immigration policies, they lost the election. Which is always the case when the adults leave the room and the children take over. But that shit stopped on November 5, 2024. The adults are now back in the room.

 

[Hellokitty]

Soviet ideology? The Soviet Union practiced mass deportations during WWII, entire nationalities. Thought you might want to be aware of that.

And cost of immigrants, that is a lame claim that has been completely fabricated. I could post countless white papers and studies, quote dozens of economists, all supporting the reality that immigrants, both illegal and legal, provide a greater economic benefit than they cost, and that would be just looking at dollars. There are dozens of benefits that have nothing to do with dollars and cents and sometimes, those benefits can pop up after two or three generations. Instead, a history lesson.

Early 18th century, Colonial North Carolina. Sparsely populated, especially in the West, for a couple of reasons. Native Americans had consistently driven out the settlers, starting with Juan Pardo's attempt to establish outposts earlier in the 16th century. But second, the rivers, they were everywhere and essentially closed off any community that did manage to take root.

The governor, Charles Eden, needed residents. He came up with a plan. He would grant amnesty, provide a full pardon, to anyone and everyone that agreed to locate in the state, no matter the crime or the location. The most famous criminal to take him up on the offer, Blackbeard, the notorious pirate. He was granted a full pardon, took a wife and made an attempt at the straight life, it just didn't fit his temperament.

That wasn't the case for most of those that accepted those pardons and asylum. Criminals, yes real criminals, flooded the state. Especially in the West. Interesting enough, this is precisely the time frame that my ancestors first entered North Carolina. The population grew, and those that wanted to be truly left alone and get a fresh start headed for the mountains.

Now, flash forward to the Revolutionary War. Washington sends Hamilton to North Carolina tasking him with estimating how many North Carolinians could be counted on to volunteer for the Continental Army. When he came back his response was blunt, "ZERO".

The residents of North Carolina, and again, especially in the mountains, they didn't give two shits. Isolated, much like how many of them are now, after the hurricane damage, they were content in the communities they had forged out of that wilderness. They had built a relationship with the Native American tribes, mostly the Cherokee and the Catawba. They were independent, and free, not insignificantly from the past of their parents. In fact, for years the license plate of North Carolina proudly displayed "First in Freedom", to the chagrin of the rest of the nation.

But then, Butcher Tarlton and his dragoons showed up. The Waxhaw massacre happened, Andrew Jackson just a kid witnessing the entire thing. Then, all hell broke loose. They were called the overmountain men. This nation owes them a great debt for without them we would be singing "God Save the King" before every MLB game.

You cannot convince me that the war did not turn in the South, primarily at King's Mountain. And it was not Americans against British, or even German mercenaries. It was Americans against Americans. King's Mountain was the turning point. And there was one British military officer on that field, Fergunson.

History does not give that battle justice, nor does it even paint an accurate picture. Sure, we came out with a victory, but what they don't tell you is that those Overmountainmen marched there with their wives, mostly Native Americans, and their kids, swaddled around their wives' bellies, reloading the muskets. While often disputed, I know precisely who shot Fergunson off his horse, well at least one of the people, he was hit multiple times. That long rifle is on display at a local museum. How that rifle got to the battlefield is a story in itself, borrowed, from the old father, or my great great, damn, I am not going to go to Ancestry.com to find out how many times, grandfather.

Waxhaw massacre, Battle of Ramsuer's Mill, Battle of King's mountain, Biggerstaff's Field. There, there you have the history of this nation, and it is all due to the actions of one governor, all due to completely open borders and a free fresh start.

It appears we have come full circle. Today, it is Americans against Americans, just as divided as we were prior to the Civil War, maybe as divided as we were during the American Revolution. Mark my words, this nation's very beginning, very existence, hinges on Eden's pardons and open borders. Mass deportation and closing the border will signal the end of this nation. It might take fifty or sixty years, but it is coming if we adopt Trump's policies.

Those that forget the mistakes of the past are destined to repeat them.

Immigration of the past is not comparable. Give us an example in the last 20 years where mass immigration in the millions of people unwilling to assimilate has worked out?

 

[JGalt]

Immigration of the past is not comparable. Give us an example in the last 20 years where mass immigration in the millions of people unwilling to assimilate has worked out?

France? Uhhh...no.

Germany? Uhhh...no.

Sweden? Uhhh...no.

The UK? Uhhh...no.

 

[Polishprince]

Unchecked immigration is what led to the fall of the western Roman Empire as well. Illegals crossing the border and spreading their ideology of Vandalism, sacking Roman cities, just didn't work for Rome.

 

[1srelluc]

Whatever it costs will be the "Deal of the Day" by and by.

 

[Winston]

^^^^^^^^^^^

This one still believes the democrat spin they are importing doctors , engineers and IT professionals .

Not all of them, but many of them. My oldest son is a research scientist. A project manager. Engineering, in the energy field. The poor boy is in the middle of a month long stint where he will be home, in the country, all of three days. Away from his wife and kids. Why? Because he has a staff of about twelve people, not a damn one of them an American citizen. That significantly impacts their ability to travel abroad, he has to do it.

He is absolutely desperate to find a qualified American citizen to hire. And that is just so ironic. Immigrants fill a void at both ends of the spectrum. How many college graduation ceremonies have you attended? In the Engineering field especially. I have attended quite a few. You get a program, it names every graduate and their home. China, Saudi Arabia, India, they top the list. Finding an American is like finding hen's teeth.

I have about a dozen employees as well. One of them is a senior, same major as my son's degree, same college. He works every other weekend and he is a damn beast. I asked him about his job search, he said he is going to really get on it next semester. I told him, "You know you are going to be a DEI hire". He gave me a puzzled look. I then asked him, "How many Americans are in your class right now"? The light bulb went off, "Very few" was his response. India, China, Saudi Arabia, right, I responded. He nodded in agreement.

Then there is the other end of the spectrum. The field workers, the construction workers. Don't even ask me to give the bricklayer example of how immigrants provide a benefit to us all. My son's first job was working as a field worker in the tomato fields during the summer while he was in High School. Him and his buddy, both of them at least six foot four and as white as snow, full blown American citizens. Comical to see, them in the field with a bunch of five foot nothing Mexicans. Made damn good money too, cash, off the books.

Thing is, they were the only Americans working those fields. And now, some ten years later, both he and his friend are making six figures. Americans, for the most part, are not going to do those jobs no matter what the pay is. His mom picked him up one day, early in, when he first started working. After he had gotten off work. He was covered in mud, it had been raining, and she was crying her eyes out.

I told her, with complete confidence, it would make him a man. And it did, so sad people can't realize that intuitively. To this day, he will tell you, that was the best thing he ever did.

 

[Mac-7]

The debate is over

The obama/Biden/harris open border policy was soundly defeated by the 2024 election of donald trump

Now all we have to do is get on with the business of deportation