Media: we're deeply concerned about the cost of mass deportations!Also the media: never once ever asked how much mass immigration costs taxpayers

[JGalt]

Not all of them, but many of them. My oldest son is a research scientist. A project manager. Engineering, in the energy field. The poor boy is in the middle of a month long stint where he will be home, in the country, all of three days. Away from his wife and kids. Why? Because he has a staff of about twelve people, not a damn one of them an American citizen. That significantly impacts their ability to travel abroad, he has to do it.

He is absolutely desperate to find a qualified American citizen to hire. And that is just so ironic. Immigrants fill a void at both ends of the spectrum. How many college graduation ceremonies have you attended? In the Engineering field especially. I have attended quite a few. You get a program, it names every graduate and their home. China, Saudi Arabia, India, they top the list. Finding an American is like finding hen's teeth.

I have about a dozen employees as well. One of them is a senior, same major as my son's degree, same college. He works every other weekend and he is a damn beast. I asked him about his job search, he said he is going to really get on it next semester. I told him, "You know you are going to be a DEI hire". He gave me a puzzled look. I then asked him, "How many Americans are in your class right now"? The light bulb went off, "Very few" was his response. India, China, Saudi Arabia, right, I responded. He nodded in agreement.

Then there is the other end of the spectrum. The field workers, the construction workers. Don't even ask me to give the bricklayer example of how immigrants provide a benefit to us all. My son's first job was working as a field worker in the tomato fields during the summer while he was in High School. Him and his buddy, both of them at least six foot four and as white as snow, full blown American citizens. Comical to see, them in the field with a bunch of five foot nothing Mexicans. Made damn good money too, cash, off the books.

Thing is, they were the only Americans working those fields. And now, some ten years later, both he and his friend are making six figures. Americans, for the most part, are not going to do those jobs no matter what the pay is. His mom picked him up one day, early in, when he first started working. After he had gotten off work. He was covered in mud, it had been raining, and she was crying her eyes out.

I told her, with complete confidence, it would make him a man. And it did, so sad people can't realize that intuitively. To this day, he will tell you, that was the best thing he ever did.

Ask your son how many of that staff of about twelve people paid drug cartels to sneak them into the country illegally.

 

[Winston]

No, I'm saying Biden/Harris made a mistake, and they paid for it big time. We could have easily handled the number of illegals we had before they started welcoming them in wholesale. Now it's going to take a considerable effort to identify them, locate them, and deport them out of the country.
We could have saved the country a lot of time, money, and lives had the Biden/Harris regime not thought it was a good idea to import 10-20 million more than we had in 2020. And because of their idiotic immigration policies, they lost the election. Which is always the case when the adults leave the room and the children take over. But that shit stopped on November 5, 2024. The adults are now back in the room.

The jury is still out on that. Time will tell. But I got to wonder, going back, looking at history, how as that work out?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Naturally.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

Perfect!

They are so full of shit.

How much does it take to provide for 21 million illegals?

 

[struth]

Not all of them, but many of them. My oldest son is a research scientist. A project manager. Engineering, in the energy field. The poor boy is in the middle of a month long stint where he will be home, in the country, all of three days. Away from his wife and kids. Why? Because he has a staff of about twelve people, not a damn one of them an American citizen. That significantly impacts their ability to travel abroad, he has to do it.

He is absolutely desperate to find a qualified American citizen to hire. And that is just so ironic. Immigrants fill a void at both ends of the spectrum. How many college graduation ceremonies have you attended? In the Engineering field especially. I have attended quite a few. You get a program, it names every graduate and their home. China, Saudi Arabia, India, they top the list. Finding an American is like finding hen's teeth.

I have about a dozen employees as well. One of them is a senior, same major as my son's degree, same college. He works every other weekend and he is a damn beast. I asked him about his job search, he said he is going to really get on it next semester. I told him, "You know you are going to be a DEI hire". He gave me a puzzled look. I then asked him, "How many Americans are in your class right now"? The light bulb went off, "Very few" was his response. India, China, Saudi Arabia, right, I responded. He nodded in agreement.

Then there is the other end of the spectrum. The field workers, the construction workers. Don't even ask me to give the bricklayer example of how immigrants provide a benefit to us all. My son's first job was working as a field worker in the tomato fields during the summer while he was in High School. Him and his buddy, both of them at least six foot four and as white as snow, full blown American citizens. Comical to see, them in the field with a bunch of five foot nothing Mexicans. Made damn good money too, cash, off the books.

Thing is, they were the only Americans working those fields. And now, some ten years later, both he and his friend are making six figures. Americans, for the most part, are not going to do those jobs no matter what the pay is. His mom picked him up one day, early in, when he first started working. After he had gotten off work. He was covered in mud, it had been raining, and she was crying her eyes out.

I told her, with complete confidence, it would make him a man. And it did, so sad people can't realize that intuitively. To this day, he will tell you, that was the best thing he ever did.

You make an excellent point, our education system has failed Americans. We spend the most per student, with horrible results and now our colleges are educating engineers for foreign countries

Hopefully, besides illegal immigrants, the White House will look at the Dept of Education

 

[22lcidw]

The jury is still out on that. Time will tell. But I got to wonder, going back, looking at history, how as that work out?

To Democrats Hamilton is a Progressive Socialist Communist play on Broadway.

 

[Marener]

The debate is over

The obama/Biden/harris open border policy was soundly defeated by the 2024 election of donald trump

Now all we have to do is get on with the business of deportation

Bring on the inflation!

 

[Mac-7]

Bring on the inflation!

Fewer migrants means more jobs for Americans

 

[Marener]

Fewer migrants means more jobs for Americans

Have you see our birth rates lately? Fewer Americans means less economic output.

 

[Mac-7]

Have you see our birth rates lately? Fewer Americans means less economic output.

Not as our productivity increases

Remember AI?

 

[Marener]

Not as our productivity increases

Remember AI?

I do remember AI. How does that improve productivity of the jobs vacated by illegal immigrants?

 

[Mac-7]

I do remember AI. How does that improve productivity of the jobs vacated by illegal immigrants?

Maybe not much

But with fewer migrants there will be more jobs for Americans

 

[Marener]

Maybe not much

But with fewer migrants there will be more jobs for Americans

You can’t fill real jobs with imaginary Americans.

Are you looking for a job ?

 

[Mac-7]

You can’t fill real jobs with imaginary Americans.

Are you looking for a job ?

Yes, we also need welfare reform to “encourage” able bodied people to find work

 

[Foxfyre]

Naturally.

The corrupt, useless MSM is all about backing Demcrtas and pushing a Soviet ideology on America.

BINGO!!! And not only do they not address the cost in resources that tens of millions of migrants drain from our economy, the media also never addresses the cost of threats to national security or the vandalism, theft, burglary, assault, rape, murder etc. that comes with allowing unvetted migrants over run our country.

Sending the migrants back home cannot possibly be more than keeping them here and encouraging more to come.

 

[Marener]

Yes, we also need welfare reform to “encourage” able bodied people to find work

There’s millions of job openings, why are you unemployed? Is it because of the welfare?

 

[Mac-7]

There’s millions of job openings, why are you unemployed? Is it because of the welfare?

Dont get personal

 

[Marener]

Sending the migrants back home cannot possibly be more than keeping them here and inviting more to come.

It’ll hurt the country, no doubt. Illegals immigrants represent a significant part of the labor force, and their removal will undoubtedly hurt many industries in many locations, resulting in contraction of GDP and rising inflation as labor costs increase as employers compete for a smaller labor pool with fewer skills.

 

[Marener]

Dont get personal

Don’t be delusional.

 

[Mac-7]

It’ll hurt the country, no doubt. Illegals immigrants represent a significant part of the labor force, and their removal will undoubtedly hurt many industries in many locations, resulting in contraction of GDP and rising inflation as labor costs increase as employers compete for a smaller labor pool with fewer skills.

You mean slave labor is good for the economy?

I dont agree

 

[Mac-7]

Don’t be delusional.

You post nonsense such as in #37 and call me delusionsl?

Sheesh