The fascist mass murderer Lenin stands proud.
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Meanwhile in Seattle
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Bet the cops would have you in handcuffs inside two minutes if you dared to try and deface or topple it.
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They think he was one of the Beatles.
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Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
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This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
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Of course you defend statues of mass murdering fascists. Yes, fascists.
Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
Mr Webster:
Definition of fascism
1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
DOTR
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Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
The statue was commissioned by the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia to glorify Lenin. Communists do that.
Of course! these are college kids educated by liberal professors who idealize the Lennins
of the world. Now we are getting to see how Communists negotiate, as they take things over, burn it loot it, tear it down, shout people down and make demands.
Text book Communist negotiation tactics here and like little children getting their way because of overly lax parents, they leave a cesspool in their wake.
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Of course! these are college kids educated by liberal professors who idealize the Lennins
of the world. Now we are getting to see how Communists negotiate, as they take things over, burn it loot it, tear it down, shout people down and make demands.
Text book Communist negotiation tactics here and like little children getting their way because of overly lax parents, they leave a cesspool in their wake.
The press and academia, two protected and unelected power bases, believe they have a Divine Right of Deep State or something. Time to purge them.
Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
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Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
If Seattle and Minneapolis want to do that, I have no problem. I was applying your logic, asking you a question and you failed to answer, funny how you avoided the question.
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Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
History is not strong with you is it, the Confederates made it all the way to Minnesota?????
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Why’s FDR statue in DC standing after what he did to Americans of Asian decent? Woodrow Wilson? Huge segregationist.
Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
Oh yeah. Modern era Democrats so statues are safe.
Rye Catcher
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Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
If Seattle and Minneapolis want to do that, I have no problem. I was applying your logic, asking you a question and you failed to answer, funny how you avoided the question.
I see your point, each of those used violence as a means to the end they hoped to achieve, in the case of Lenin, he had no legal process at his disposal.
The slave states has such a recourse, one example was the Great Compromise and Sen. Webster's 17th of March three hour speech in the Senate seeking a moderate acceptance of slavery to save the Union. With the election of Lincoln the course was set.
Considering the current issue I looked into the Life of Gen. Lee, see: Making Sense of Robert E. Lee
"During the postbellum century, when Americans North and South decided to embrace R. E. Lee as a national as well as a Southern hero, he was generally described as antislavery. This assumption rests not on any public position he took but on a passage in an 1856 letter to his wife. The passage begins: “In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages.” But he goes on: “I think it however a greater evil to the white than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.”
Maybe these words engraved below the Statute of so much controversy today would be a better solution than to its destruction.
Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
If Seattle and Minneapolis want to do that, I have no problem. I was applying your logic, asking you a question and you failed to answer, funny how you avoided the question.
I see your point, each of those used violence as a means to the end they hoped to achieve, in the case of Lenin, he had no legal process at his disposal.
The slave states has such a recourse, one example was the Great Compromise and Sen. Webster's 17th of March three hour speech in the Senate seeking a moderate acceptance of slavery to save the Union. With the election of Lincoln the course was set.
Considering the current issue I looked into the Life of Gen. Lee, see: Making Sense of Robert E. Lee
"During the postbellum century, when Americans North and South decided to embrace R. E. Lee as a national as well as a Southern hero, he was generally described as antislavery. This assumption rests not on any public position he took but on a passage in an 1856 letter to his wife. The passage begins: “In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages.” But he goes on: “I think it however a greater evil to the white than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.”
Maybe these words engraved below the Statute of so much controversy today would be a better solution than to its destruction.
Times and people change,I appreciate your use of compromise. I believe we need discourse to come to an agreement. Today, the answer seems to dig our heels in. I was hoping for a candidate that would use common sense in these tense moments. I see no leaders that are willing to go that route.
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Agreement? The only objective of the Left has no objective to agree with except you dying.
Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
If Seattle and Minneapolis want to do that, I have no problem. I was applying your logic, asking you a question and you failed to answer, funny how you avoided the question.
I see your point, each of those used violence as a means to the end they hoped to achieve, in the case of Lenin, he had no legal process at his disposal.
The slave states has such a recourse, one example was the Great Compromise and Sen. Webster's 17th of March three hour speech in the Senate seeking a moderate acceptance of slavery to save the Union. With the election of Lincoln the course was set.
Considering the current issue I looked into the Life of Gen. Lee, see: Making Sense of Robert E. Lee
"During the postbellum century, when Americans North and South decided to embrace R. E. Lee as a national as well as a Southern hero, he was generally described as antislavery. This assumption rests not on any public position he took but on a passage in an 1856 letter to his wife. The passage begins: “In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages.” But he goes on: “I think it however a greater evil to the white than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.”
Maybe these words engraved below the Statute of so much controversy today would be a better solution than to its destruction.
Times and people change,I appreciate your use of compromise. I believe we need discourse to come to an agreement. Today, the answer seems to dig our heels in. I was hoping for a candidate that would use common sense in these tense moments. I see no leaders that are willing to go that route.
Rye Catcher
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Agreement? The only objective of the Left has no objective to agree with except you dying.
Good grief man, Lenin was not a fascist and herein is the story of how and why this got to Fremont, Seattle:
Lenin Statue - Fremont, Seattle
Fremont Seattle, Center of the Universe. Lenin Statue. This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique.
This cast bronze sculpture of Vladimir Lenin was created by Emil Venkov. Weighing over 7 tons and 16 feet tall, the sculpture took ten years to complete and is truly unique. It is believed to be the only representation portraying Lenin surrounded by guns and flames instead of holding a book or waving his hat. The sculptor was able to express his vision of Lenin as a violent revolutionary.
An American veteran teaching in Poprad, Lewis Carpenter, found the sculpture lying face down after it was toppled in the 1989 Revolution. He recognized Venkov’s skill and craftsmanship and the boldness of his portrayal. It was brought to Fremont in 1996 and sits in the heart of downtown Fremont at the intersection of Fremont Place North, North 36th Street and Evanston Avenue North.
Like the Fremont Troll and the Waiting for the Interurban sculpture, the Lenin statue is often decorated, appropriated, or vandalized with various intentions, both whimsical and serious.
This is one more example of a lie by omission, intended to not only upset the fools (see Odd Dude, above), but to claim Communism is alive and well in Seattle, and support for violence and arson.
What about the statues of civil war participants? Shouldn’t the same logic of keeping Lenin be applied to Civil War leaders?
Pies and Porpoises ^^^.
Given current events, those who riot and violently destroy large portions of American Cities are no different than Confederate Generals - should they too have Statutes Placed in Seattle, Minneapolis and other large cities?
If Seattle and Minneapolis want to do that, I have no problem. I was applying your logic, asking you a question and you failed to answer, funny how you avoided the question.
I see your point, each of those used violence as a means to the end they hoped to achieve, in the case of Lenin, he had no legal process at his disposal.
The slave states has such a recourse, one example was the Great Compromise and Sen. Webster's 17th of March three hour speech in the Senate seeking a moderate acceptance of slavery to save the Union. With the election of Lincoln the course was set.
Considering the current issue I looked into the Life of Gen. Lee, see: Making Sense of Robert E. Lee
"During the postbellum century, when Americans North and South decided to embrace R. E. Lee as a national as well as a Southern hero, he was generally described as antislavery. This assumption rests not on any public position he took but on a passage in an 1856 letter to his wife. The passage begins: “In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages.” But he goes on: “I think it however a greater evil to the white than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.”
Maybe these words engraved below the Statute of so much controversy today would be a better solution than to its destruction.
Times and people change,I appreciate your use of compromise. I believe we need discourse to come to an agreement. Today, the answer seems to dig our heels in. I was hoping for a candidate that would use common sense in these tense moments. I see no leaders that are willing to go that route.
Define "The Left".
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