McDonalds Introduces Self Serving Kiosks in Response to Min Wage Increase

[hadit]

Again, you're ignoring reality. The law says you can be employed or not employed, either by your employer's choice or your own choice. A different law also specifies that you can receive unemployment compensation under certain circumstances. You are apparently unable to understand that those are separate laws. You hear the words "at will" and think that they apply to UE. They don't.

Unemployment compensation is compensation for being unemployed. It really is that simple.

Only under defined circumstances. Not because you quit or refused to even find a job in the first place.

The LAW is employment at the Will of either party.

And the LAW is you get UE under certain circumstances. Two different things.

the point is about equal protection of the law.

And that's what we have. You are basically arguing that you should be allowed to park in a handicapped parking space without the proper designation on your vehicle. IOW, you're being absurd.

 

[danielpalos]

neither can the poor; yet, we have a "work or starve" regime coming from the fantastical, right wing, still stuck in the past.

Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight?

special pleading much? Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages.

are you claiming capitalists cannot save up to become more efficient?

Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight because you realize that your positions are contradictory?

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs.

That's a diversion. Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight?

And while you're trying to find a banal nonsense question to duck out of that, consider as well that, if society wants a guaranteed income, it should come from welfare, not by turning companies into welfare distribution centers so you can pretend that we're not spending huge money on welfare.

that was not my previous stance; you are merely working too hard and producing red herrings.

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs

 

[danielpalos]

Unemployment compensation is compensation for being unemployed. It really is that simple.

Only under defined circumstances. Not because you quit or refused to even find a job in the first place.

The LAW is employment at the Will of either party.

And the LAW is you get UE under certain circumstances. Two different things.

the point is about equal protection of the law.

And that's what we have. You are basically arguing that you should be allowed to park in a handicapped parking space without the proper designation on your vehicle. IOW, you're being absurd.

false analogies much? the law is employment at the will of either party.

 

[hadit]

Only under defined circumstances. Not because you quit or refused to even find a job in the first place.

The LAW is employment at the Will of either party.

And the LAW is you get UE under certain circumstances. Two different things.

the point is about equal protection of the law.

And that's what we have. You are basically arguing that you should be allowed to park in a handicapped parking space without the proper designation on your vehicle. IOW, you're being absurd.

false analogies much? the law is employment at the will of either party.

And the law is also that you only get UE under certain circumstances. You have yet to demonstrate that the two are the same. They are not.

 

[hadit]

Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight?

special pleading much? Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages.

are you claiming capitalists cannot save up to become more efficient?

Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight because you realize that your positions are contradictory?

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs.

That's a diversion. Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight?

And while you're trying to find a banal nonsense question to duck out of that, consider as well that, if society wants a guaranteed income, it should come from welfare, not by turning companies into welfare distribution centers so you can pretend that we're not spending huge money on welfare.

that was not my previous stance; you are merely working too hard and producing red herrings.

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs

Here is what you said.

"Why don't all capitalists accumulate capital to do what Henry Ford did?"

I've answered that question and now you want to abandon it. I can see why you would, can you?

 

[danielpalos]

The LAW is employment at the Will of either party.

And the LAW is you get UE under certain circumstances. Two different things.

the point is about equal protection of the law.

And that's what we have. You are basically arguing that you should be allowed to park in a handicapped parking space without the proper designation on your vehicle. IOW, you're being absurd.

false analogies much? the law is employment at the will of either party.

And the law is also that you only get UE under certain circumstances. You have yet to demonstrate that the two are the same. They are not.

State law supersedes administrative law.

 

[danielpalos]

special pleading much? Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages.

are you claiming capitalists cannot save up to become more efficient?

Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight because you realize that your positions are contradictory?

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs.

That's a diversion. Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight?

And while you're trying to find a banal nonsense question to duck out of that, consider as well that, if society wants a guaranteed income, it should come from welfare, not by turning companies into welfare distribution centers so you can pretend that we're not spending huge money on welfare.

that was not my previous stance; you are merely working too hard and producing red herrings.

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs

Here is what you said.

"Why don't all capitalists accumulate capital to do what Henry Ford did?"

I've answered that question and now you want to abandon it. I can see why you would, can you?

All capitalists can do what Henry Ford did, with enough capital.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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the law is employment at will. why be illegal to the law?

You clearly have no grasp of what "At Will" employment means.

At-will employment - Wikipedia

 

[Uncensored2008]

All capitalists can do what Henry Ford did, with enough capital.

Your ignorance is overwhelming.

 

[Silhouette]

Another flame war? Really?

 

[Silhouette]

McDonalds Introduces Self Serving Kiosks in Response to Min Wage Increase

And in related news, workers chagrined at jobs being siphoned away by rich corporations, start eating at Wendys & Whitecastle instead...

 

[hadit]

And the LAW is you get UE under certain circumstances. Two different things.

the point is about equal protection of the law.

And that's what we have. You are basically arguing that you should be allowed to park in a handicapped parking space without the proper designation on your vehicle. IOW, you're being absurd.

false analogies much? the law is employment at the will of either party.

And the law is also that you only get UE under certain circumstances. You have yet to demonstrate that the two are the same. They are not.

State law supersedes administrative law.

Define "administrative law" and explain how "state law" supersedes it. While you're at it, explain how "state law" lets you get paid if you quit a job.

 

[hadit]

Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight because you realize that your positions are contradictory?

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs.

That's a diversion. Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight?

And while you're trying to find a banal nonsense question to duck out of that, consider as well that, if society wants a guaranteed income, it should come from welfare, not by turning companies into welfare distribution centers so you can pretend that we're not spending huge money on welfare.

that was not my previous stance; you are merely working too hard and producing red herrings.

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs

Here is what you said.

"Why don't all capitalists accumulate capital to do what Henry Ford did?"

I've answered that question and now you want to abandon it. I can see why you would, can you?

All capitalists can do what Henry Ford did, with enough capital.

That's like saying all people can live like Donald Trump does, with enough money. The fact remains, most companies CANNOT do what Ford did, because they don't have the means. Next.

 

[hadit]

McDonalds Introduces Self Serving Kiosks in Response to Min Wage Increase

And in related news, workers chagrined at jobs being siphoned away by rich corporations, start eating at Wendys & Whitecastle instead...

Be sure to let us know when that happens. Also be sure to let us know when Wendy's and Whitecastle follow suit and install their own kiosks.

 

[danielpalos]

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the law is employment at will. why be illegal to the law?

You clearly have no grasp of what "At Will" employment means.

At-will employment - Wikipedia

yes, i do. you merely appeal to ignorance, like usual.

 

[danielpalos]

All capitalists can do what Henry Ford did, with enough capital.

Your ignorance is overwhelming.

Your lack of True Faith in Capitalism, is underwhelming.

 

[danielpalos]

McDonalds Introduces Self Serving Kiosks in Response to Min Wage Increase

And in related news, workers chagrined at jobs being siphoned away by rich corporations, start eating at Wendys & Whitecastle instead...

i prefer a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed.

 

[danielpalos]

the point is about equal protection of the law.

And that's what we have. You are basically arguing that you should be allowed to park in a handicapped parking space without the proper designation on your vehicle. IOW, you're being absurd.

false analogies much? the law is employment at the will of either party.

And the law is also that you only get UE under certain circumstances. You have yet to demonstrate that the two are the same. They are not.

State law supersedes administrative law.

Define "administrative law" and explain how "state law" supersedes it. While you're at it, explain how "state law" lets you get paid if you quit a job.

they are already defined. you need to do your own homework.

unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is equal protection of that very same law, for Labor.

 

[danielpalos]

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs.

That's a diversion. Are you abandoning your previous stance that every company can and should double their labor costs overnight?

And while you're trying to find a banal nonsense question to duck out of that, consider as well that, if society wants a guaranteed income, it should come from welfare, not by turning companies into welfare distribution centers so you can pretend that we're not spending huge money on welfare.

that was not my previous stance; you are merely working too hard and producing red herrings.

we are discussing the minimum wage. and, yes; social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. there is no reason to socialize those costs

Here is what you said.

"Why don't all capitalists accumulate capital to do what Henry Ford did?"

I've answered that question and now you want to abandon it. I can see why you would, can you?

All capitalists can do what Henry Ford did, with enough capital.

That's like saying all people can live like Donald Trump does, with enough money. The fact remains, most companies CANNOT do what Ford did, because they don't have the means. Next.

there is no right earn a profit. no right to work, either.

 

[hadit]

And that's what we have. You are basically arguing that you should be allowed to park in a handicapped parking space without the proper designation on your vehicle. IOW, you're being absurd.

false analogies much? the law is employment at the will of either party.

And the law is also that you only get UE under certain circumstances. You have yet to demonstrate that the two are the same. They are not.

State law supersedes administrative law.

Define "administrative law" and explain how "state law" supersedes it. While you're at it, explain how "state law" lets you get paid if you quit a job.

they are already defined. you need to do your own homework.

unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is equal protection of that very same law, for Labor.

You only get paid to not work under certain circumstances. That won't change.

You can't park in a handicapped parking space without a handicapped designation on your car. That won't change, no matter how many times you yell "equal protection under the law".

You can't claim a mortgage interest deduction on your taxes unless you pay interest on a mortgage. That won't change, no matter how many times you yell "equal protection under the law".

Are you starting to get the picture? Are you starting to understand? You just keep dully repeating the same mantra over and over again, but you're no closer to making it true than when you started. Being paid for voluntarily not working is not UE, it's welfare.