McCarthy to strip Ukrainian aid?

[Donald H]

Here's a link to an entire thread discussing exactly how Russia started this war.

Thanks for that John! It's always worth hearing on side's talking points in a way that can leave no doubt.

It can motivate others to describe the other side's talking points.

I won't do it because it's already been done to my satisfaction.

 

[Donald H]

No...
Vatnick Soup has verified, documented proof that this one is solely the responsibility of Russia.

Yes, if Obama had honored Clinton's promises of military support in 2014 then this would not be the war it is now. And if Bush had honored Clinton's treaty and informed Ukraine and assisted them during his presidency...this wouldn't be an issue either.

So....
Exactly which administration are you blaming other than Russia?

You've at least verified that the trouble was started by America as early as 2014.

With that we are to suppose that Russia could have been defeated. Can you expand your argument?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Maybe if Mc needs Boebert's vote:

 

[JohnDB]

You've at least verified that the trouble was started by America as early as 2014.

With that we are to suppose that Russia could have been defeated. Can you expand your argument?

The Russian settlements and Russian Oligarchs had a strong foothold by 2014. These Russian immigrants were the ones causing all the trouble. They never were Ukranians despite their claims.
The Ukranian Government had been favorable to Russia until they realized that this was a mistake...just like it had been in the past.

When independent farm crops are bought way below market value and then transportation is exorbitantly priced beyond market price....all happening at the point of a gun. Yeah...no wonder the Ukranians have been growing weary of Russia....not to mention all the political instability the Russian immigrants immediately cause...

Ukranians have wanted nothing to do with Russia more and more as early as 2004.

It wasn't until Zelensky won in a landslide that the people actually got what they wanted. Unfortunately it caused Russia to fight...because they began losing what they were salivating for.

 

[bdtex]

Check again:

McCarthy backtracks, says he will keep Ukraine aid in Pentagon funding bill

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on Saturday said he will keep Ukraine aid in the Pentagon funding bill, a reversal from his announcement one day earlier that he would strip the money out due to o…

thehill.com

 

[August West]

While the Dems / Socialists are raging about their demands for taxpayer money to hose down Ukraine, we see why. They don't want money spent on the US military. Wasn't it the Dems / Socialists who were screeching about a $15 minimum wage?

MSN

U.S. Military Gets Bad News From Joe Biden​

The White House has vowed to veto legislation from House Republicans that would grant a 30% pay raise to junior enlisted military personnel in the coming year.

The pay increase would ensure that the lowest-earning service members would make at least $15 an hour for a 40-hour workweek.

In a press release addressing the proposed bill, the White House stated, “If the president were presented with H.R. 4365, he would veto it.”

The military that`s had a blank check since the early 50s? With friendly neighbors to our north and south and 2 large bodies of water east and west, we`re the Suckers of the world.

 

[beautress]

I fully disagree with this. When a smaller sovereign country is invaded by a communist superpower, we should help in protecting innocent civilians.

McCarthy vows to strip Ukraine money from Pentagon bill after Greene ‘no’ vote

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced Friday that he will strip funding for Ukraine out of a Pentagon spending bill after Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) joined conservatives in blocking the legislation from advancing earlier this week. McCarthy said he would remove the $300 million...

news.yahoo.com

It turned into a proxy war with a nuclear-armed carnivore.

 

[The5thHorseman]

McCarthy had better stop giving hard-earned, American tax dollars to that little ***. Our vets, and infrastructure, and southern wall need that money FAR more than Queerzensky does.

I bet you have no idea how much we've sent them.

Ask me why.

 

[SaxonJackson]

I bet you have no idea how much we've sent them.

Ask me why.

When the amount approaching the multi-billions, it's WAY too much. That money could have been used to rebuild the Maui homes or help homeless vets or repair thousands of decaying American bridges. Etc.

 

[wamose]

I wish our representatives would take into account that we're already 33 trillion in debt and we will have to barrow money to pay for all this insane spending. That goes for Ukraine, that goes for student loan forgiveness and that goes for transporting, clothing, feeding, housing, educating and providing medical care for the 10 million + illegal aliens that Democrats have stupidly invited into our country.

 

[beautress]

I wish our representatives would take into account that we're already 33 trillion in debt and we will have to barrow money to pay for all this insane spending. That goes for Ukraine, that goes for student loan forgiveness and that goes for transporting, clothing, feeding, housing, educating and providing medical care for the 10 million + illegal aliens that Democrats have stupidly invited into our country.

You're right, wamose. What I am wondering is how did Conservative Republicans get roped into voting for these trillions of dollars in spending that is more like a wildfire on dry fodder in a wind. I wish the Senate would pay attention to brave firefighters who put out the blaze with a hose and a whole lot of water.

 

[The5thHorseman]

When the amount approaching the multi-billions, it's WAY too much. That money could have been used to rebuild the Maui homes or help homeless vets or repair thousands of decaying American bridges. Etc.

You have no idea....as I suggested.

So why run your mouth?

 

[Moonglow]

America slaughters its own citizens with the importation of fentanyl and other heavy drugs, along with abortion mills. When we clean up our own backyard, then we can become the moral police state for the rest of the world. Until then, America's leaders need to stop pretending to be moral angels and start using America's money in a more disciplined and sensible manner. We have more than enough problems of our own.

When, by the way, are the nations of the world going to start sending aid to the USA? Why is sending aid always the American worker's burden?

Ignorance and short sighted reactions won't work either, the US wouldn't be the US without foreign aid during the Revolutionary War.

 

[Moonglow]

While the Dems / Socialists are raging about their demands for taxpayer money to hose down Ukraine, we see why. They don't want money spent on the US military. Wasn't it the Dems / Socialists who were screeching about a $15 minimum wage?

MSN

U.S. Military Gets Bad News From Joe Biden​

The White House has vowed to veto legislation from House Republicans that would grant a 30% pay raise to junior enlisted military personnel in the coming year.

The pay increase would ensure that the lowest-earning service members would make at least $15 an hour for a 40-hour workweek.

In a press release addressing the proposed bill, the White House stated, “If the president were presented with H.R. 4365, he would veto it.”

What is a forty hour a week job in the military, that would cover about three days of duty.

 

[The5thHorseman]

While the Dems / Socialists are raging about their demands for taxpayer money to hose down Ukraine, we see why. They don't want money spent on the US military. Wasn't it the Dems / Socialists who were screeching about a $15 minimum wage?

MSN

U.S. Military Gets Bad News From Joe Biden​

The White House has vowed to veto legislation from House Republicans that would grant a 30% pay raise to junior enlisted military personnel in the coming year.

The pay increase would ensure that the lowest-earning service members would make at least $15 an hour for a 40-hour workweek.

In a press release addressing the proposed bill, the White House stated, “If the president were presented with H.R. 4365, he would veto it.”

Are these the vets from whom Grifty stole for his wall?

 

[Hollie]

What is a forty hour a week job in the military, that would cover about three days of duty.

Nonsense.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Ignorance and short sighted reactions won't work either, the US wouldn't be the US without foreign aid during the Revolutionary War.

I don't recall Ukraine sending tens-of-billions of dollars in aid and weapons during America's Revolutionary war. Maybe I missed something.

 

[The5thHorseman]

I don't recall Ukraine sending tens-of-billions of dollars in aid and weapons during America's Revolutionary war. Maybe I missed something.

Do you recall America sending aid to any of its sponsors BEFORE the Revolutionary War?

 

[SaxonJackson]

Do you recall America sending aid to any of its sponsors BEFORE the Revolutionary War?

America wasn't a nation before the Revolutionary war.

 

[The5thHorseman]

America wasn't a nation before the Revolutionary war.

Exactly...

So it had not established "credits" with any of the countries which helped it.

We help Ukraine because if they stop the Russians the Europeans and we won't have to.