whitehall
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Pretty benign postcard that sems to elicit episodes of paranoia on certain segments of society. Get some professional help.
Maybe every White Right Winger talking about being slaves to the government should be required to put this picture in their homes.
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Seymour Flops
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My grandmother had picture of slaves on her wall. A set of them, in fact. Pictures of people being forced to do things against their will, give what they worked for to people who did not, and having their lives planned from cradle to grave, "for their own good." Slaveholders were universally Democrats and your party still likes to make people do things against their will, take the fruit of their labor, and plan their lives for them.
You think it kewl now, because they cater to the black vote after spending nearly a century after the 15th amendment was passed trying to nullify it.
It was only when Democrats fully realized that great Republicans would not let them stop blacks from voting that the Democrats dreamed up the modern slavery of welfare and the soft bigotry of low expectations.
Oddball
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They could have employed people to do it. The output would have been better, and they would have ended up making more money.
Slaves are always subpar workers. Like the poor people who live under socialism they have no incentive to work hard.
So they don't.
They're not stupid.
/——/ With so much free land for the taking (Sorry about that Native American tribes) everyone was heading west to be a landowner. It’s not like they could take the buggy down to Home Depot and hire a bunch of Mexicans to pick cotton.
In early colonial times slavery was their solution. And no, I’m not defending slavery, just explaining it.
There were plenty of locals who had no interest in risking their lives going west.
/—-/ And they had their own farms to work. There was such a shortage of workers, slave owners would rent their slaves out to other plantations after their crops were in.
Mushroom
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Under sharecropping, they did not own the crops. Essentially it was a form of lease agreement, where the croppers paid their rent with a share of the crops at harvest. So if they paid somebody to go in and harvest it, that would have been theft.
Mushroom
Gold Member
Actually, in early colonial times the solution was mostly indentured servants. Who at the end of their contract most commonly became employees or tenants.
/—-/ As long as they were White.
Mushroom
Gold Member
What makes you say that? Some in here really need to learn how to actually do research, and not just make things up they want to believe in.
400 Years of Inequality Since Jamestown of 1619 - PMC
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Servants or slaves? How Africans first came to America matters
How the first Africans came to America — whether as slaves or indentured servants — matters,
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Mushroom
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He's a phony troll. He isn't black, and he's been outed already as a fraud. He has other socks here as well.
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/----/ "Some in here really need to learn how to actually do research, and not just make things up they want to believe in."What makes you say that? Some in here really need to learn how to actually do research, and not just make things up they want to believe in.
400 Years of Inequality Since Jamestown of 1619 - PMC
Servants or slaves? How Africans first came to America matters
How the first Africans came to America — whether as slaves or indentured servants — matters,
You need to take your own advice.
Kidnapping of Free People of Color
Kidnapping of Free People of Color
Abolitionist Elisha Tyson wrote to Congress with details on several kidnapping cases of free African Americans in the North who were sold into slavery under the guise of the 1793 Fugitive Slave Act…
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The nature of this crime makes it impossible to know how many free African Americans were kidnapped and enslaved. Many of the kidnapped African Americans were sold “down the river” and, unlike Solomon Northup, no one heard from them again. Today we share a document from the Center for Legislative Archives in the National Archives that illustrates the devastating problem of pre-Civil War kidnapping of free African Americans.
Deplorable Yankee
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Not even close. Hundreds of thousands of Irish immigrated, Dutch, Germans, Italians, all mostly poor, almost all with no farming skills being refugees from the big city.
I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about the slave owning plantation owners.
/----/ And how were these poor immigrants supposed to get to the deep South to work as farmhands for a pittance? They could find work in NY sweatshops and be better off living with their fellow immigrants. New York to South Carolina is about 850 miles.
Are you just going to keep pulling any old excuse out of your ass?
Many of them arrived there. Louisiana received quite a few, as did the Carolinas. Had the plantation owners actually had paid positions there would have been many more.
The reason why the South wasn’t a big destination is precisely because the opportunities were low for a poor person compared to the North.
"If you build it, they will come"
The South never built it.
Seymour Flops
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Freed slave should have been given farmland of their own and allowed to succeed or fail just like any other American. Their former masters should have been forced to pay them a dollar amount for each year of their slavery, i.e. their age, so that they could by the tools, animals, and seeds needed to get started.
Democrats fought such plans and so the overwhelming majority of slaves became sharecroppers on the same plantations on which they worked, leaving them theoretically "free" but in approximately the same economic conditions as before. The former slave masters continued to enrich themselves on the labor of their helpless workers, probably regretting they had made such a big deal about the end of slavery. Nothing much had changed.
They had feared freed negroes would be walking the sidewalks, attending schools, and eating in restaurants alongside whites. Admired Democrats like Robert Byrd worked hard to ensure that did not happen for almost a hundred years.
Democrats fought such plans and so the overwhelming majority of slaves became sharecroppers on the same plantations on which they worked, leaving them theoretically "free" but in approximately the same economic conditions as before. The former slave masters continued to enrich themselves on the labor of their helpless workers, probably regretting they had made such a big deal about the end of slavery. Nothing much had changed.
They had feared freed negroes would be walking the sidewalks, attending schools, and eating in restaurants alongside whites. Admired Democrats like Robert Byrd worked hard to ensure that did not happen for almost a hundred years.
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