Massive anti Israel rallies all in several US cities


Chicago had massive rallies as did several other cities
You wonder why the USA is a dying nation.??? Just look at the filth who is demonstrating

With puppet master Barack Hussein Ovomit directing this Biden's circus behind the curtain, it's only natural to watch all these anti-Israel shit going on.
 
WE Americans the British & Russians Gave the land to the Jewish people. ( the WW2 victors) Because of the guilt for how we allowed Jewish people to be treated. The pre 1948 British rule is much more difficult to unravel.
What guilt? How did "we" "allow" Jews to be treated prior to 1948? "We" did allow Jews to commit genocide against at least 20 million Russian Christians between 1917 and 1929, so our guilt toward the Jews, then, would be in the Socratic sense of "it is better to suffer an injustice than to commit one"? I would think a more worthy guilt would be toward the Russian Christians.
I exonerate neither the Russian Czars for torturing the Jews for 1,000 years not the Jews who retaliated in a most violent fashion.
Only an ignoramus would state that Russia was a wonderland.
First of all, the vast majority of Jews in Russia in 1917 we Russian only by the acquisition of Polish territory, meaning they had only been under Tsarist government for fewer than two hundred years. Moreover, while there were degrees of tolerance between the different monarchs, in general, Tsarist treatment of the Jews was an outgrowth of official efforts to relieve the suffering of the Russian peasantry on whom the Jews preyed.

I read a letter by a young Jewish woman who described her experience in Soviet Russia. The Jews in her community had learned that some official action was in the offing that would render one currency in circulation worthless and greatly amplify the value of another. So, with that inside knowledge the young woman travelled to some medium-sized village somewhere and found a Russian woman who would sell something or other so that she would be able to stick the woman with the bad currency. She describes how overwhelmingly sweet the Christian woman was, how she kept calling her honey, and invited her to her home where she made her tea and told her about her dead sons and on and on. The transaction was effected and the Jewish woman got back on the train for her village, knowing she had just stolen this woman's life savings. She was surprised that she felt guilty and considered finding a different victim but the train was leaving and, what could she do? Return to her village having cheated no one? Of course not.

How did the Jews in her village come by that special information? Did a Jew in the Soviet money-printing bureaucracy feed that insider knowledge to fellow Jews, thus allowing the Jews in Russia to dispossess in a despicable manner their Christian neighbors? Is this an example of the superior work ethic you like to claim is the reason for Jewish success? Do you think this weakens your claim that anti-Semitism is the irrational product of gentile envy and resentment? Did this kind of behavior by the Jews justify the Tsarist efforts to "repress" the Jews, taking measure like forbidding Jews from owning liquor establishments and what have you, as a means to curtail Jewish depredations?

Yes there was a lot of violence between Jews and Christians in pre-1917 Russia, i.e., before the Jewish Revolution, as the Russians call it. Lots of hatred and ill will. What's mind-boggling about Jews is their insistence that it was 100 percent the fault of Christians.
The Bolsheviks were 10-15 percent Jewish only .
Most Jews were forced into ghettos under the Russian tsars
"The Bolsheviks were 10-15 percent Jewish only ."

So you are a Holocaust denier. The Russians, themselves, refer to the Bolshevik Revolution as the "Jewish Revolution"

On September 16, 1918, the British ambassador to Norway, Sir Mansfeldt Findlay, who oversaw the shipment of arms and supplies from the Allies to Russia during the First World War, sent a message by telegraph to British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour in London containing the report of the Dutch ambassador to Russia on the conditions inside Russia under the Bolsheviks. Sir Findlay ends the message with:

I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the greatest issue now before the world, not even excluding the war which is still raging, and unless, as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world, as it is organised and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things. 1

The February 8, 1920, edition of the Illustrated Sunday Herald (London) carried an article by Winston Churchill in which the future prime minister wrote:

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses...

The Russian common man, too, saw Bolshevism as Jewish. On March 13, 1919, as the Red Terror was just reaching cruising altitude, Lenin went personally to address striking workers at a factory in St Petersburg. He was confronted by a hostile crowd shouting, "Down with the Jews, down with the Commissars!"2 (Later, two hundred strikers were shot.)

In the Russian civil war, the military and political leaders on all sides saw Bolshevism as a Jewish enterprise. The Whites, who fought the Reds, systematically and routinely conflated Jew and Bolshevik, subjecting tens of thousands of Russian Jews to mass executions on those grounds. In an anti-Bolshevik backlash, independent Ukrainian militia units also brutally slaughtered Jewish civilians, as did the Greens—local militias comprised of farmers and peasants.

The city of Minsk had the largest population of Jews in the Soviet Union. Bolshevism had never really taken hold there because leftist Jewish political energy had long been absorbed by the Jewish Workers Bund. Once in power, the Bolsheviks outlawed all other parties, so the Jewish Workers Bund became the Minsk Bolshevik party”3 The Bund had held some of its meetings in synagogues before the revolution. After assuming the mantle of the Bolsheviks, they simply made the arrangement permanent and ruled the city from synagogues renamed workers' cultural centers, leaving the rest of the synagogues to continue operating as usual. Of the 657 synagogues in Minsk in 1917, 547 were still functioning in 1930”, even receiving state funding to run Yiddish language schools.4

By contrast, here is a report from a British subject who left Petrograd in November, 1918:
The foreign press has, as I understand, published some details about the September massacres in Petrograd, when more than one thousand men were shot in Kronstadt and at the Peter-Paul Fortress indiscriminately, without any trial, not even the pretence of a court-martial; shot, or drowned, as was the case with Father Ornatsky, the well-known priest of the Kazan Cathedral in Petrograd, who was drowned with his two young sons, who were officers, along with many others. Whereas the shooting in big towns has during the last months decreased owing to Lenin's personal dislike of Red terrorism, it is continuing in the provinces, where priests, landowners, physicians, rich merchants, lawyers, are indiscriminately shot in cold blood, without any trial and without any reason besides a general pretext of being counter-revolutionists. Arrests and domestic searches are going on as before. There are some thousands of men and women starving in the prisons of Petrograd — professors of universities, eminent lawyers, priests, generals, officers, ladies of society, bankers, &c. There are towns and districts where all the priests who have to wear their hair long in accordance with religious custom now have been forced to have it cut short, in other towns churches have been desecrated and bishops arrested or shot.5

So, is Judeo-Bolshevism just a canard as the SPLC claims? On the one hand we have the foreign diplomats who dealt with them, the political and military entities who battled them, the common people who lived under them, and the damning evidence of their own actions all affirming Bolshevism was Jewish. On the other hand we have the SPLC, a century after the fact, denying it.

But, one hundred years ago, Jews themselves said Bolshevism was Jewish as, for example, this, among many other examples, from The American Hebrew, September, 10, 1920.

That achievement [the Bolshevik takeover], destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of the World War, was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent, of Jewish effort to reconstruct...What Jewish idealism and Jewish discontent have so powerfully contributed to accomplish in Russia, the same historic qualities of the Jewish mind and heart are tending to promote in other countries.

1"A collection of reports on Bolshevism in Russia", British Foreign Office, London, April 1919
2 Vladimir Brovkin, Behind the Front Lines of the Civil War: Political parties and Social movements in Russia: 1918 – 1922; 1994: 69-72
3 Peter Drucker, reviewing Becoming Soviet Jews: The Bolshevik Experiment in Minsk by Elissa Bemporad
4 Ibid.
5 A collection of reports on Bolshevism in Russia : Great Britain. Foreign Office., April 1919
If you lived in Russia back then you would have joined the Bolshevicks.
"If you lived in Russia back then you would have joined the Bolshevicks."

Not even the Mensheviks. I would have been a Junker and doomed.
 
WE Americans the British & Russians Gave the land to the Jewish people. ( the WW2 victors) Because of the guilt for how we allowed Jewish people to be treated. The pre 1948 British rule is much more difficult to unravel.
What guilt? How did "we" "allow" Jews to be treated prior to 1948? "We" did allow Jews to commit genocide against at least 20 million Russian Christians between 1917 and 1929, so our guilt toward the Jews, then, would be in the Socratic sense of "it is better to suffer an injustice than to commit one"? I would think a more worthy guilt would be toward the Russian Christians.
I exonerate neither the Russian Czars for torturing the Jews for 1,000 years not the Jews who retaliated in a most violent fashion.
Only an ignoramus would state that Russia was a wonderland.
First of all, the vast majority of Jews in Russia in 1917 we Russian only by the acquisition of Polish territory, meaning they had only been under Tsarist government for fewer than two hundred years. Moreover, while there were degrees of tolerance between the different monarchs, in general, Tsarist treatment of the Jews was an outgrowth of official efforts to relieve the suffering of the Russian peasantry on whom the Jews preyed.

I read a letter by a young Jewish woman who described her experience in Soviet Russia. The Jews in her community had learned that some official action was in the offing that would render one currency in circulation worthless and greatly amplify the value of another. So, with that inside knowledge the young woman travelled to some medium-sized village somewhere and found a Russian woman who would sell something or other so that she would be able to stick the woman with the bad currency. She describes how overwhelmingly sweet the Christian woman was, how she kept calling her honey, and invited her to her home where she made her tea and told her about her dead sons and on and on. The transaction was effected and the Jewish woman got back on the train for her village, knowing she had just stolen this woman's life savings. She was surprised that she felt guilty and considered finding a different victim but the train was leaving and, what could she do? Return to her village having cheated no one? Of course not.

How did the Jews in her village come by that special information? Did a Jew in the Soviet money-printing bureaucracy feed that insider knowledge to fellow Jews, thus allowing the Jews in Russia to dispossess in a despicable manner their Christian neighbors? Is this an example of the superior work ethic you like to claim is the reason for Jewish success? Do you think this weakens your claim that anti-Semitism is the irrational product of gentile envy and resentment? Did this kind of behavior by the Jews justify the Tsarist efforts to "repress" the Jews, taking measure like forbidding Jews from owning liquor establishments and what have you, as a means to curtail Jewish depredations?

Yes there was a lot of violence between Jews and Christians in pre-1917 Russia, i.e., before the Jewish Revolution, as the Russians call it. Lots of hatred and ill will. What's mind-boggling about Jews is their insistence that it was 100 percent the fault of Christians.
The Bolsheviks were 10-15 percent Jewish only .
Most Jews were forced into ghettos under the Russian tsars
"The Bolsheviks were 10-15 percent Jewish only ."

So you are a Holocaust denier. The Russians, themselves, refer to the Bolshevik Revolution as the "Jewish Revolution"

On September 16, 1918, the British ambassador to Norway, Sir Mansfeldt Findlay, who oversaw the shipment of arms and supplies from the Allies to Russia during the First World War, sent a message by telegraph to British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour in London containing the report of the Dutch ambassador to Russia on the conditions inside Russia under the Bolsheviks. Sir Findlay ends the message with:

I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the greatest issue now before the world, not even excluding the war which is still raging, and unless, as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world, as it is organised and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things. 1

The February 8, 1920, edition of the Illustrated Sunday Herald (London) carried an article by Winston Churchill in which the future prime minister wrote:

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses...

The Russian common man, too, saw Bolshevism as Jewish. On March 13, 1919, as the Red Terror was just reaching cruising altitude, Lenin went personally to address striking workers at a factory in St Petersburg. He was confronted by a hostile crowd shouting, "Down with the Jews, down with the Commissars!"2 (Later, two hundred strikers were shot.)

In the Russian civil war, the military and political leaders on all sides saw Bolshevism as a Jewish enterprise. The Whites, who fought the Reds, systematically and routinely conflated Jew and Bolshevik, subjecting tens of thousands of Russian Jews to mass executions on those grounds. In an anti-Bolshevik backlash, independent Ukrainian militia units also brutally slaughtered Jewish civilians, as did the Greens—local militias comprised of farmers and peasants.

The city of Minsk had the largest population of Jews in the Soviet Union. Bolshevism had never really taken hold there because leftist Jewish political energy had long been absorbed by the Jewish Workers Bund. Once in power, the Bolsheviks outlawed all other parties, so the Jewish Workers Bund became the Minsk Bolshevik party”3 The Bund had held some of its meetings in synagogues before the revolution. After assuming the mantle of the Bolsheviks, they simply made the arrangement permanent and ruled the city from synagogues renamed workers' cultural centers, leaving the rest of the synagogues to continue operating as usual. Of the 657 synagogues in Minsk in 1917, 547 were still functioning in 1930”, even receiving state funding to run Yiddish language schools.4

By contrast, here is a report from a British subject who left Petrograd in November, 1918:
The foreign press has, as I understand, published some details about the September massacres in Petrograd, when more than one thousand men were shot in Kronstadt and at the Peter-Paul Fortress indiscriminately, without any trial, not even the pretence of a court-martial; shot, or drowned, as was the case with Father Ornatsky, the well-known priest of the Kazan Cathedral in Petrograd, who was drowned with his two young sons, who were officers, along with many others. Whereas the shooting in big towns has during the last months decreased owing to Lenin's personal dislike of Red terrorism, it is continuing in the provinces, where priests, landowners, physicians, rich merchants, lawyers, are indiscriminately shot in cold blood, without any trial and without any reason besides a general pretext of being counter-revolutionists. Arrests and domestic searches are going on as before. There are some thousands of men and women starving in the prisons of Petrograd — professors of universities, eminent lawyers, priests, generals, officers, ladies of society, bankers, &c. There are towns and districts where all the priests who have to wear their hair long in accordance with religious custom now have been forced to have it cut short, in other towns churches have been desecrated and bishops arrested or shot.5

So, is Judeo-Bolshevism just a canard as the SPLC claims? On the one hand we have the foreign diplomats who dealt with them, the political and military entities who battled them, the common people who lived under them, and the damning evidence of their own actions all affirming Bolshevism was Jewish. On the other hand we have the SPLC, a century after the fact, denying it.

But, one hundred years ago, Jews themselves said Bolshevism was Jewish as, for example, this, among many other examples, from The American Hebrew, September, 10, 1920.

That achievement [the Bolshevik takeover], destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of the World War, was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent, of Jewish effort to reconstruct...What Jewish idealism and Jewish discontent have so powerfully contributed to accomplish in Russia, the same historic qualities of the Jewish mind and heart are tending to promote in other countries.

1"A collection of reports on Bolshevism in Russia", British Foreign Office, London, April 1919
2 Vladimir Brovkin, Behind the Front Lines of the Civil War: Political parties and Social movements in Russia: 1918 – 1922; 1994: 69-72
3 Peter Drucker, reviewing Becoming Soviet Jews: The Bolshevik Experiment in Minsk by Elissa Bemporad
4 Ibid.
5 A collection of reports on Bolshevism in Russia : Great Britain. Foreign Office., April 1919
Ideology Is a Spitball Fight at a Prep School

Once again, the hereditary ruling class blames the Jews as scapegoats for what it itself is doing. Bootlickers of the Plutes Who Wear the Boots are easy to convince that the Jews are the real problem; the Masters they so gutlessly worship could never be guilty of mistreating them unless forced to do so by a Higher Power, the fictional transnationalist and omnipotent Jewish conspiracy.

After the French Revolution almost succeeded in destroying aristocracy forever and moving forward to democracy, the upper class was split into two factions with different approaches on how to prevent that from ever happening. One was reactionary; the other, the Preppy Progressives, decided to take over the democratic movements and opportunistically make themselves dictators over them. Karl Marx, a nerdy professor dominated by his countess wife, offered a seductive philosophy designed specifically for control freaks. So its real appeal was not class conflict but that it offered absolute power to any clique that desperately needed it to fill their hollow souls.
 
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WE Americans the British & Russians Gave the land to the Jewish people. ( the WW2 victors) Because of the guilt for how we allowed Jewish people to be treated. The pre 1948 British rule is much more difficult to unravel.
What guilt? How did "we" "allow" Jews to be treated prior to 1948? "We" did allow Jews to commit genocide against at least 20 million Russian Christians between 1917 and 1929, so our guilt toward the Jews, then, would be in the Socratic sense of "it is better to suffer an injustice than to commit one"? I would think a more worthy guilt would be toward the Russian Christians.
I exonerate neither the Russian Czars for torturing the Jews for 1,000 years not the Jews who retaliated in a most violent fashion.
Only an ignoramus would state that Russia was a wonderland.
First of all, the vast majority of Jews in Russia in 1917 we Russian only by the acquisition of Polish territory, meaning they had only been under Tsarist government for fewer than two hundred years. Moreover, while there were degrees of tolerance between the different monarchs, in general, Tsarist treatment of the Jews was an outgrowth of official efforts to relieve the suffering of the Russian peasantry on whom the Jews preyed.

I read a letter by a young Jewish woman who described her experience in Soviet Russia. The Jews in her community had learned that some official action was in the offing that would render one currency in circulation worthless and greatly amplify the value of another. So, with that inside knowledge the young woman travelled to some medium-sized village somewhere and found a Russian woman who would sell something or other so that she would be able to stick the woman with the bad currency. She describes how overwhelmingly sweet the Christian woman was, how she kept calling her honey, and invited her to her home where she made her tea and told her about her dead sons and on and on. The transaction was effected and the Jewish woman got back on the train for her village, knowing she had just stolen this woman's life savings. She was surprised that she felt guilty and considered finding a different victim but the train was leaving and, what could she do? Return to her village having cheated no one? Of course not.

How did the Jews in her village come by that special information? Did a Jew in the Soviet money-printing bureaucracy feed that insider knowledge to fellow Jews, thus allowing the Jews in Russia to dispossess in a despicable manner their Christian neighbors? Is this an example of the superior work ethic you like to claim is the reason for Jewish success? Do you think this weakens your claim that anti-Semitism is the irrational product of gentile envy and resentment? Did this kind of behavior by the Jews justify the Tsarist efforts to "repress" the Jews, taking measure like forbidding Jews from owning liquor establishments and what have you, as a means to curtail Jewish depredations?

Yes there was a lot of violence between Jews and Christians in pre-1917 Russia, i.e., before the Jewish Revolution, as the Russians call it. Lots of hatred and ill will. What's mind-boggling about Jews is their insistence that it was 100 percent the fault of Christians.
The Bolsheviks were 10-15 percent Jewish only .
Most Jews were forced into ghettos under the Russian tsars
"The Bolsheviks were 10-15 percent Jewish only ."

So you are a Holocaust denier. The Russians, themselves, refer to the Bolshevik Revolution as the "Jewish Revolution"

On September 16, 1918, the British ambassador to Norway, Sir Mansfeldt Findlay, who oversaw the shipment of arms and supplies from the Allies to Russia during the First World War, sent a message by telegraph to British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour in London containing the report of the Dutch ambassador to Russia on the conditions inside Russia under the Bolsheviks. Sir Findlay ends the message with:

I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the greatest issue now before the world, not even excluding the war which is still raging, and unless, as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world, as it is organised and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things. 1

The February 8, 1920, edition of the Illustrated Sunday Herald (London) carried an article by Winston Churchill in which the future prime minister wrote:

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses...

The Russian common man, too, saw Bolshevism as Jewish. On March 13, 1919, as the Red Terror was just reaching cruising altitude, Lenin went personally to address striking workers at a factory in St Petersburg. He was confronted by a hostile crowd shouting, "Down with the Jews, down with the Commissars!"2 (Later, two hundred strikers were shot.)

In the Russian civil war, the military and political leaders on all sides saw Bolshevism as a Jewish enterprise. The Whites, who fought the Reds, systematically and routinely conflated Jew and Bolshevik, subjecting tens of thousands of Russian Jews to mass executions on those grounds. In an anti-Bolshevik backlash, independent Ukrainian militia units also brutally slaughtered Jewish civilians, as did the Greens—local militias comprised of farmers and peasants.

The city of Minsk had the largest population of Jews in the Soviet Union. Bolshevism had never really taken hold there because leftist Jewish political energy had long been absorbed by the Jewish Workers Bund. Once in power, the Bolsheviks outlawed all other parties, so the Jewish Workers Bund became the Minsk Bolshevik party”3 The Bund had held some of its meetings in synagogues before the revolution. After assuming the mantle of the Bolsheviks, they simply made the arrangement permanent and ruled the city from synagogues renamed workers' cultural centers, leaving the rest of the synagogues to continue operating as usual. Of the 657 synagogues in Minsk in 1917, 547 were still functioning in 1930”, even receiving state funding to run Yiddish language schools.4

By contrast, here is a report from a British subject who left Petrograd in November, 1918:
The foreign press has, as I understand, published some details about the September massacres in Petrograd, when more than one thousand men were shot in Kronstadt and at the Peter-Paul Fortress indiscriminately, without any trial, not even the pretence of a court-martial; shot, or drowned, as was the case with Father Ornatsky, the well-known priest of the Kazan Cathedral in Petrograd, who was drowned with his two young sons, who were officers, along with many others. Whereas the shooting in big towns has during the last months decreased owing to Lenin's personal dislike of Red terrorism, it is continuing in the provinces, where priests, landowners, physicians, rich merchants, lawyers, are indiscriminately shot in cold blood, without any trial and without any reason besides a general pretext of being counter-revolutionists. Arrests and domestic searches are going on as before. There are some thousands of men and women starving in the prisons of Petrograd — professors of universities, eminent lawyers, priests, generals, officers, ladies of society, bankers, &c. There are towns and districts where all the priests who have to wear their hair long in accordance with religious custom now have been forced to have it cut short, in other towns churches have been desecrated and bishops arrested or shot.5

So, is Judeo-Bolshevism just a canard as the SPLC claims? On the one hand we have the foreign diplomats who dealt with them, the political and military entities who battled them, the common people who lived under them, and the damning evidence of their own actions all affirming Bolshevism was Jewish. On the other hand we have the SPLC, a century after the fact, denying it.

But, one hundred years ago, Jews themselves said Bolshevism was Jewish as, for example, this, among many other examples, from The American Hebrew, September, 10, 1920.

That achievement [the Bolshevik takeover], destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of the World War, was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent, of Jewish effort to reconstruct...What Jewish idealism and Jewish discontent have so powerfully contributed to accomplish in Russia, the same historic qualities of the Jewish mind and heart are tending to promote in other countries.

1"A collection of reports on Bolshevism in Russia", British Foreign Office, London, April 1919
2 Vladimir Brovkin, Behind the Front Lines of the Civil War: Political parties and Social movements in Russia: 1918 – 1922; 1994: 69-72
3 Peter Drucker, reviewing Becoming Soviet Jews: The Bolshevik Experiment in Minsk by Elissa Bemporad
4 Ibid.
5 A collection of reports on Bolshevism in Russia : Great Britain. Foreign Office., April 1919
Very interesting and odd but Jews were the minority - so it’s not correct
The Russian Tsars placed all Jews in horrible conditions to live and die on the Pale
Jew haters don’t want to hear that.
 

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