Massie has a great idea for getting the names of miscreants out there from the Epstein files

[Alicia J]

LOL.... been a member here for 13 days spreading lies and misinformation and call long term members trolls without supporting any of your allegations with facts.

Your talking points are failing you.

I don't care if I'm a member for only 13 minutes.

I know how to debate. All you do is ignore facts and troll, like all Trump supporters.

 

[Nobody911]

I have read that Rep. Thomas Massie says he has a major move in mind regarding the Epstein files.

He stated that if the Department of Justice, under Pam Bondi, does not release unredacted names linked to Epstein, he could take the issue to the House floor and read the names publicly under congressional immunity.

Under that protection, such statements would be part of the official Congressional Record.

Rep. Thomas Massie says he has a major move in mind regarding the Epstein files.
He stated that if the Department of Justice, under Pam Bondi, does not release unredacted names linked to Epstein, he could take the issue to the House floor and read the names publicly under congressional immunity.
Under that protection, such statements would be part of the official Congressional Record.

This is genius.

In the Yahoo News report, Massie states that he is willing to use the constitutional protections afforded to members of Congress to “publicly read a list of Epstein’s clients” that is being compiled by victims. This is a direct acknowledgment that he may release names on the House floor, where he cannot be prosecuted or sued for doing so.

Members of Congress are protected by the Speech and Debate Clause of the U.S. Constitution.This means:

• They cannot be prosecuted for statements made during official legislative activity.
• They cannot be sued for defamation for what they say on the floor.
• They can introduce documents into the Congressional Record with legal immunity.

So if Massie chose to read names aloud, he would be shielded from legal consequences.

Redactions tango, papers in piles,
Congress whispers, then Massie smiles.
Gavel taps and the records rile,
Secrets dance — one messy file.

Yes — for speech made on the floor the Speech or Debate Clause (Art. I, §6) gives members of Congress virtually absolute immunity for their legislative acts, including statements entered into the Congressional Record. That means a representative who reads names on the House floor would generally be protected from criminal prosecution and from civil suits (including defamation claims) for those floor statements.

Limitations and practical risks:

• Immunity covers only official legislative acts on the floor or in committee; repeating the same names elsewhere is not protected.
• The House itself could discipline a member (ethics or other sanctions).
• If the names involve classified information or ongoing criminal investigations, other legal and practical complications could follow even if prosecution for the floor speech is barred.

So legally, reading the names on the House floor is ordinarily protected; other consequences remain possible.

source:

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Navigate through pivotal First Amendment cases by date on MTSU, gaining insights into legal battles that shaped free speech and press rights.

firstamendment.mtsu.edu

 

[Delldude]

I don't care if I'm a member for only 13 minutes.

I know how to debate. All you do is ignore facts and troll, like all Trump supporters.

Yet you can't backup your lame claims.

 

[Alicia J]

Yet you can't backup your lame claims.

I did earlier. You are just a troll and you ignore everything that you don't like. If you don't like it, then it just ain't true.

A MAGA cry baby. That's how you roll.

 

[Delldude]

I did earlier. You are just a troll and you ignore everything that you don't like. If you don't like it, then it just ain't true.

A MAGA cry baby. That's how you roll.

You claimed Trump forced a 13yr old to give Him a blowjob.

Ok, back it up with facts.

You've failed to do that.

You claimed the only redactions under the EFTA were for victims only.

Ok, back it up with facts.

You've failed to do that.

Keep on trolling.

 

[Alicia J]

You claimed Trump forced a 13yr old to give Him a blowjob.

Ok, back it up with facts.

You've failed to do that.

You claimed the only redactions under the EFTA were for victims only.

Ok, back it up with facts.

You've failed to do that.

Keep on trolling.

You and your deranged MAGA buddies claim that the Epstein Transparency Act prevents them from releasing all of the files.

That is an epic LIE. That is what I'm referring to. And that is why Bondi was scolded by members of Congress recently. You are a child.


Evidence exists that Trump received a blow job from a 13 year old girl. She was interviewed by the FBI 4 times, so they obviously considered her a credible witness.

Now, you can argue about the credibility of the evidence....but you can't argue that the evidence doesn't exist.

 

[leftwinger]

They are all rekeased a Trump guy came out and said so. Anything else is redundant nonsense of already released. There is no there there. Nothing of value. You want more pictures of slick in a swimming pool in Morroco? Is that illegal? SHUP crazy stain//

 

[Delldude]

You and your deranged MAGA buddies claim that the Epstein Transparency Act prevents them from releasing all of the files.

That is an epic LIE. That is what I'm referring to. And that is why Bondi was scolded by members of Congress recently. You are a child.


Evidence exists that Trump received a blow job from a 13 year old girl. She was interviewed by the FBI 4 times, so they obviously considered her a credible witness.

Now, you can argue about the credibility of the evidence....but you can't argue that the evidence doesn't exist.

Ok...... provide irrefutable evidence that support both of your claims you just pointed out.

Not any hyperbole just supportive evidence to totally back up your assertions.

Troll on.....

 

[YoursTruly]

I don't care if I'm a member for only 13 minutes.

I know how to debate. All you do is ignore facts and troll, like all Trump supporters.

Defend and embellish Trump is all they know. It's their life goal. They couldn't breathe without Trump.

He owns them.

 

[Alicia J]

Ok...... provide irrefutable evidence that support both of your claims you just pointed out.

Why? You don't care about "irrefutable evidence" when a Democrat is involved.

Which obviously makes you a shameless hypocrite....who can't debate.

 

[Delldude]

Why? You don't care about "irrefutable evidence" when a Democrat is involved.

Which obviously makes you a shameless hypocrite....who can't debate.

So you are publicly admitting that you can't back up your assertions with facts?

C'mon.....back your claims up.

I thought you were a Master Debater.

It looks like you're actually a Master something else:

 

[YoursTruly]

Why? You don't care about "irrefutable evidence" when a Democrat is involved.

Which obviously makes you a shameless hypocrite....who can't debate.

The Trump Tribe doesn't care about anything except defending and embellishing Trump.

FFS, Alicia, Trump has them supporting wars, bombing 7 countries in 1 year, hiding Epsteins pdf's, high gas/grocery prices, socialism, warrantless spying on Americans, massive spending increases. And a whole lot of other things we'd expect from the democrats.

And they don't even care.

One might say they don't have the backbone to stand up against leftist policies like that. But Trump owns them so much, they can't even see how far left he's taken them and the GOP. They're sheep.

 

[Alicia J]

So you are publicly admitting that you can't back up your assertions with facts?

You said "irrefutable evidence". Are we in a court of law?

A better question -- Why do you hold Democrats to a higher standard than Trump? You don't care about "irrefutable evidence" when you think a Democrat does something wrong. So why does Trump get special treatment?

Like I said....you are a child and you can't debate.

And you still can't show me where it states in the Epstein Transparency Law that all of the files related to Trump can't be released. As long as the victims' names aren't revealed, ALL of the files can be released.

You made that up because you are a troll.

 

[Alicia J]

The Trump Tribe doesn't care about anything except defending and embellishing Trump.

FFS, Alicia, Trump has them supporting wars, bombing 7 countries in 1 year, hiding Epsteins pdf's, high gas/grocery prices, socialism, warrantless spying on Americans, massive spending increases. And a whole lot of other things we'd expect from the democrats.

And they don't even care.

One might say they don't have the backbone to stand up against leftist policies like that. But Trump owns them so much, they can't even see how far left he's taken them and the GOP. They're sheep.

I'm enjoying showing him what a total hypocrite he is.

He demands "irrefutable evidence" that Trump is guilty of having sex with underage girls. However, I doubt he cares at all about "irrefutable evidence" when it comes to Democrats.

 

[Delldude]

And you still can't show me where it states in the Epstein Transparency Law that all of the files related to Trump can't be released.

I never said that. Please provide a direct quote where I said that.

Dare you.

As long as the victims' names aren't revealed, ALL of the files can be released.

Ok, prove it then.... I dare you.

He demands "irrefutable evidence" that Trump is guilty of having sex with underage girls. However, I doubt he cares at all about "irrefutable evidence" when it comes to Democrats.

It doesn't matter what party.

Ok, just back up your claims about Trump and feel free to include any other politician.

This is getting comical.

It's obvious that you can't back up your claims.

 

[Alicia J]

I never said that. Please provide a direct quote where I said that.

Dare you.



Ok, prove it then.... I dare you.

You "never said" that about the law.....but you want me to prove that it's in the law, anyway. That makes sense.

A total troll who just plays games. A total child who is not interested in a meaningful debate.

 

[Alicia J]

It doesn't matter what party.

Oh, yes....that is all you care about.

If you were a decent, objective person, then you would haven't voted for a guy who was willing to let his own vice president die on Jan 6 because his vice president wouldn't help him steal the election.

 

[Delldude]

You "never said" that about the law.....but you want me to prove that it's in the law, anyway. That makes sense.

A total troll who just plays games. A total child who is not interested in a meaningful debate.

So you still can't back up your claims. You made the claim not me.

Back it up or shut up.

If you were a decent, objective person, then you would haven't voted for a guy who was willing to let his own vice president die on Jan 6 because his vice president wouldn't help him steal the election.

What does that have to do with backing up your claims?

You're admitting that you can't back up your claims by now changing the debate.

Fingerprints of a true failed democrat Internet troll.

Thanks for playing..... unless you can back up your claims.

 

[Alicia J]

What does that have to do with backing up your claims?

What I'm saying is that you are not an objective, honest, decent person....so debating someone like you is pointless.

You're admitting that you can't back up your claims by now changing the debate.

Fingerprints of a true failed democrat Internet troll.

Thanks for playing..... unless you can back up your claims.

I already did back up my claims. Everyone knows what is in the damn law. Congress certainly knows, which is why they ripped into Bondi a couple of weeks ago.

I told you about the FBI interview evidence and I posted the video of Ted Lieu questioning Bondi and showing her evidence against Trump. You might not agree with the evidence against Trump.....But the evidence still exists, whether you think it is weak or not.

Trolling incessantly since 2014. How truly pathetic.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Yet you can't backup your lame claims.

Sure can. People read your posts and laugh, saying, "That boy just ain't right."