Mass shooting deaths up 239% since assault weapon ban revoked

Tell people what it is and why it's good. The more people who talk about it, the more people notice it.

Well, better to change the country through laws, than guns.
only tyrants change a country though guns, no we have laws but it's not that simple

you would need a large amount of people on the same page to even come close to
challenging our two party system

R's are generally older and wiser, D's are younger and dumb and want free stuff

not sure that's going to change in our lifetimes
 
only tyrants change a country though guns, no we have laws but it's not that simple

you would need a large amount of people on the same page to even come close to
challenging our two party system

R's are generally older and wiser, D's are younger and dumb and want free stuff

not sure that's going to change in our lifetimes

Yes, you do. How do you change the minds of a large number of people? You need a movement. You need to convince people that what you want, is what they want.

Right now people are like "we want a corrupt system where the rich tell us what to do and how to think".

Why?

Because they rich are telling them that this is what they want.

Change that. Or complain about it and be a slave. Your choice. You might not succeed by telling people about PR. I haven't. Most people tell me "We already have PR" or "we're not Europeans" or "I'm so stupid I have no idea what you're talking about" or "you're an idiot." But I do it anyway. Some people see the light. If I change 10 people's views, and they change 10 people's views, and those people change 10 people's views, it's a start.
 
Yes, you do. How do you change the minds of a large number of people? You need a movement. You need to convince people that what you want, is what they want.

Right now people are like "we want a corrupt system where the rich tell us what to do and how to think".

Why?

Because they rich are telling them that this is what they want.

Change that. Or complain about it and be a slave. Your choice. You might not succeed by telling people about PR. I haven't. Most people tell me "We already have PR" or "we're not Europeans" or "I'm so stupid I have no idea what you're talking about" or "you're an idiot." But I do it anyway. Some people see the light. If I change 10 people's views, and they change 10 people's views, and those people change 10 people's views, it's a start.
it would to be a grand movement that could take decades and a uphill battle

you don't reverse status quo of 250 years in a year, that's just the reality of it

we have a coin with 2 sides, there is no space for another major party at this time
 
it would to be a grand movement that could take decades and a uphill battle

you don't reverse status quo of 250 years in a year, that's just the reality of it

we have a coin with 2 sides, there is no space for another major party at this time

Is it better to start a movement that might be difficult, might not succeed, or is it better to just sit back and do nothing knowing there's a 0% chance of success?

Your choice.
 
Is it better to start a movement that might be difficult, might not succeed, or is it better to just sit back and do nothing knowing there's a 0% chance of success?

Your choice.
I don't have 250 years, the last major party was the whigs and that was a special time in our history
independents, libertarians, fringe groups with 3%

nice you want to rewrite history but it's a mute point, we have blue and red, there is no green and
you and me will be long dead before there is even a sniff of any 3rd party to challenge

what would they bring to the table that both red and blue like? fat chance......they don't agree on anything!

you want black and white to form a grey party......it's just not realistic, not with our system

just being realistic here
 
I don't have 250 years, the last major party was the whigs and that was a special time in our history
independents, libertarians, fringe groups with 3%

nice you want to rewrite history but it's a mute point, we have blue and red, there is no green and
you and me will be long dead before there is even a sniff of any 3rd party to challenge

what would they bring to the table that both red and blue like? fat chance......they don't agree on anything!

you want black and white to form a grey party......it's just not realistic, not with our system

just being realistic here

And look at all the people who changed things who weren't realistic. Look at the blacks in the US who fought and won. Or the US revolution.
 
This might be a good time to mention that Bill Clinton’s assault weapons ban reduced mass shooting deaths by 43% - but after George W Bush & Republicans let it expire, mass shooting deaths spiked by 239%.

20,000 gun murders a year . . . GOP opposes gun control laws. 2 cases of voter fraud a year . . . GOP passes 361 new voter suppression laws.

Let's get something straight. Every item (rifle, pistol, knife, hammer, bat, etc.) you use to attack someone with, is an "assault weapon." Period. The left deliberately began calling semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines, "assault weapons," to make them seem scarier than other weapons. They were NEVER referred to as assault weapons until the leftist Democrats coined them as this to get the public to agree to take them away from everybody, even though millions, upon millions of people who own these rifles aren't harming anyone.
Now, on to the increase in violent crime....in the leftist run cities. The reason for the increase in crime falls on the "soft-on-crime" prosecutors and judges that are being elected. The violent criminal, robs or shoots someone and the soft-on-crime prosecutor and/or judge, releases the douchebag on his own recognizance or on an ankle bracelet, only for him to get another "stolen" gun and commit other crimes. Then he/she gets caught again and is again let out after spending a night or two in jail. He/she then gets out and carjacks someone with an again stolen firearm (rifle, pistol). All the while, laughing at the ridiculous so-called justice system. The same douchebag racks up page after page after page of crimes, until such time as he/she actually kills people. What happens next can actually and does happen. The douchebag get bonded out until the trial, or by some miracle, they actually hold him/her until the trial.
If you want less deaths, once the douchebag commits his/her first deliberate crime using a firearm, declare him/her a danger to society and you keep him/her in jail until the trial. No more releasing on their own recognizance or bonding out until the results of the trial.
Bottom line. No more electing of so-called soft-on-crime prosecutors or judges.
On a somewhat separate issue: I just watched the case of an ex-con who murdered four of his family members. His reason: He couldn't find work and they weren't feeding him and since living on the "outside" was hard, he wanted to go back in the "box," and never come out again. These criminals need to learn to really hate being in prison, not miss it. Prison systems need to change and to hell with the "bleeding-hearts" who want the prisoners pampered.
 
HGs are used up to 78% of the Time in Mass Shootings in the last 50 years
 
This might be a good time to mention that Bill Clinton’s assault weapons ban reduced mass shooting deaths by 43% - but after George W Bush & Republicans let it expire, mass shooting deaths spiked by 239%.

20,000 gun murders a year . . . GOP opposes gun control laws. 2 cases of voter fraud a year . . . GOP passes 361 new voter suppression laws.

The majority of mass shootings are committed with a handgun.

You idiots would happily give up every single right we have as US citizens just because you where told you have to for some vague common good.
 
Let's get something straight. Every item (rifle, pistol, knife, hammer, bat, etc.) you use to attack someone with, is an "assault weapon." Period. The left deliberately began calling semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines, "assault weapons," to make them seem scarier than other weapons. They were NEVER referred to as assault weapons until the leftist Democrats coined them as this to get the public to agree to take them away from everybody, even though millions, upon millions of people who own these rifles aren't harming anyone.
Now, on to the increase in violent crime....in the leftist run cities. The reason for the increase in crime falls on the "soft-on-crime" prosecutors and judges that are being elected. The violent criminal, robs or shoots someone and the soft-on-crime prosecutor and/or judge, releases the douchebag on his own recognizance or on an ankle bracelet, only for him to get another "stolen" gun and commit other crimes. Then he/she gets caught again and is again let out after spending a night or two in jail. He/she then gets out and carjacks someone with an again stolen firearm (rifle, pistol). All the while, laughing at the ridiculous so-called justice system. The same douchebag racks up page after page after page of crimes, until such time as he/she actually kills people. What happens next can actually and does happen. The douchebag get bonded out until the trial, or by some miracle, they actually hold him/her until the trial.
If you want less deaths, once the douchebag commits his/her first deliberate crime using a firearm, declare him/her a danger to society and you keep him/her in jail until the trial. No more releasing on their own recognizance or bonding out until the results of the trial.
Bottom line. No more electing of so-called soft-on-crime prosecutors or judges.
On a somewhat separate issue: I just watched the case of an ex-con who murdered four of his family members. His reason: He couldn't find work and they weren't feeding him and since living on the "outside" was hard, he wanted to go back in the "box," and never come out again. These criminals need to learn to really hate being in prison, not miss it. Prison systems need to change and to hell with the "bleeding-hearts" who want the prisoners pampered.
Game. Set. Match.
Total dominance. It's amazing what logic and facts can do, isn't it? 👍
 
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