Mass shooting deaths up 239% since assault weapon ban revoked

Yeah, why is that? Has nothing to do with the open border and importing a bunch of violent degenerates from the Third World and no cash bail and letting people go even if they’ve committed violent crimes because my Black Lives Matter and a bunch of other left-wing excuses?

Why? Well, it's rather complex, but I get the feeling a lot of people want it to be simple and to be "the other side's fault". And they'll tell you this till the cows come home, but won't provide evidence for it.
 
Ah, like everyone is either Republican or Democrat. Some people aren't either. But you're so blinded by partisan politics, your answer even reflects that.

I would ask you to prove you statement, but we all know you won't.
fine, maybe they are libertarian.....haha, doubt it they are generally conservative
 
please, biden has had his hand in a bunch of illegal stuff over the year, backdoor deals with terrorists I am sure
he just was not caught or his kid

So, Biden being an unconvicted criminal, means Trump is also not a convicted criminal? Where's the logic there?
 
So, Biden being an unconvicted criminal, means Trump is also not a convicted criminal? Where's the logic there?
nice script flip, you claim trump is dirty but biden was dirty as well but you did not bring that up constantly and call him a criminal did you?

if trump was a criminal he would not be president but in jail, oh the dems tried and failed because they had nothing concrete
at all

they figured if they throw enough darts in the dark they might hit the bullseye, they missed
 
92 Fake indictments, 4 Fake trials create fake results.
Ah, "fake" is it?

Trump was a criminal before he became president. The dude gets other people to take the fall.

Trump used to bribe people in the 1980s. They called it "pay to play". An article was written about it in one of the NY newspapers back then.

The way he acts now, as president, shows that's what he's always done. Ignored the law and get his expensive lawyers to make things go away.


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"Back in 1973 when Trump was simply known for his endeavours in New York real estate rather than dividing a nation, he was sued by the US Department of Justice (along with his father, Fred Trump) for discriminating against Black renters who wanted to rent in buildings he owned. The case was settled in 1975 with no admission of guilt, but Trump was required to sign a document agreeing to change his rental practices."

So, Trump is basically found guilty, but he only agrees to the case being settled without any conviction or admittance of guilt.


"Several former Miss USA and Miss Teen USA contestants accused Trump of entering the dressing rooms of beauty pageant contestants while contestants were in various stages of undress. Trump had already referred to this practice during a 2005 interview on The Howard Stern Show, saying he could "get away with things like that" because he owned the Miss Universe franchise."

Literally he did things that are things he could have got in a lot of trouble for, but like his best pal Epstein, he had the money and power to make them go away.

"Ivana Trump and Donald Trump married in 1977. Ivana stated in a deposition taken in 1990, during their divorce proceedings, that Donald had visited her plastic surgeon following which he had expressed anger and ripped out hair from her scalp. Donald said the allegation was "obviously false". The book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald Trump (1993), by Harry Hurt III, described the alleged attack as a "violent assault" during which Donald attacked Ivana sexually. According to the book, Ivana later confided to some of her friends that Donald had raped her."

And Trump got away with it because.... he could.

And everything he's doing as president now, putting his face on coins (only one US living president has even been put on a coin and only five (plus Nancy Reagan, though she was dead when the coin came out) has even been on one).

The same with the East Wing of the White House. **** the law, just do what you want and get some sucker to deal with it later. Or, say "the Supreme Court said I could be the biggest ******* asshole in the world, and there's NOTHING anyone can do about it".
 
Did you notice that the voters ignored the phoney Democrat convictions and elected Trump.

Voters don't really have much of a choice, do they?

If the US had Proportional Representation, a proper electoral system where people get choice, Trump would never have been made President.

The problem with voters is that most are ******* IGNORANT. Just take a look at the majority of this forum. People who couldn't make an argument if their life depended on it.
 
nice script flip, you claim trump is dirty but biden was dirty as well but you did not bring that up constantly and call him a criminal did you?

if trump was a criminal he would not be president but in jail, oh the dems tried and failed because they had nothing concrete
at all

they figured if they throw enough darts in the dark they might hit the bullseye, they missed

No, I didn't, most of the time. I don't bring up lots of things on here.
I don't get into every argument.

HOWEVER I have spent 11 years on here talking about Proportional Representation, because I know that both sides are corrupt. Something I do talk about.


"Both sides have corrupted the justice system."


"Seems both sides like corruption... but each side will attack the other side for it, as if their own side isn't doing it."


"It doesn't matter what the Dems or the Reps are doing. Both sides are messed up, both will try and get as many votes as possible."

The difference between all the other presidents in the last 40 years and Trump is that Trump goes out of his way to be a prick, to ignore the law as president, to throw his weight around. He's an asshole. And he's a convicted criminal.

Which I say because you people don't seem to have a problem with that. As MarathonMike says "fake" every time, because he doesn't want to face the facts that he's been conned by a seasoned con artist.
 
If you support gun control raise your right hand...


Adolf Hitler New Year Diplomatic Reception Editorial Stock Photo ...
I support person control.
 
No, I didn't, most of the time. I don't bring up lots of things on here.
I don't get into every argument.

HOWEVER I have spent 11 years on here talking about Proportional Representation, because I know that both sides are corrupt. Something I do talk about.


"Both sides have corrupted the justice system."


"Seems both sides like corruption... but each side will attack the other side for it, as if their own side isn't doing it."


"It doesn't matter what the Dems or the Reps are doing. Both sides are messed up, both will try and get as many votes as possible."

The difference between all the other presidents in the last 40 years and Trump is that Trump goes out of his way to be a prick, to ignore the law as president, to throw his weight around. He's an asshole. And he's a convicted criminal.

Which I say because you people don't seem to have a problem with that. As MarathonMike says "fake" every time, because he doesn't want to face the facts that he's been conned by a seasoned con artist.
you think it's always going to be 50/50 right down the line? dream on, you also have some fringe parties as well that can mess up the number too

if congress was 50/50 nothing would get done unless one person could be swayed from their party stance, then they are demonized as going to the other side thus they don't want the burden

that's just how it works, you and me and nobody can change this which will be 250 years old here soon

whoever is in charge can dictate the terms but the people are what actually dictate the terms by putting a majority in for their party
 
Voters don't really have much of a choice, do they?

If the US had Proportional Representation, a proper electoral system where people get choice, Trump would never have been made President.

The problem with voters is that most are ******* IGNORANT. Just take a look at the majority of this forum. People who couldn't make an argument if their life depended on it.
Do not wish for PR unless you move more towards direct democracy with referendums.

As for Trump this, Biden that, it's just all petty arguments. The adults have passed that stage, you should consider that too.
 
you think it's always going to be 50/50 right down the line? dream on, you also have some fringe parties as well that can mess up the number too

if congress was 50/50 nothing would get done unless one person could be swayed from their party stance, then they are demonized as going to the other side thus they don't want the burden

that's just how it works, you and me and nobody can change this which will be 250 years old here soon

whoever is in charge can dictate the terms but the people are what actually dictate the terms by putting a majority in for their party
Huh?
 
Handguns are the weapon of choice for a majority of mass shootings.
You can't fight wars with handguns. Anti-gun rights people know why we have the 2A.
It's not so some groid can 'bussa cap n'sheeit'
 
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Proportional Representation, because I know that both sides are corrupt

if both sides are then what other choice is there to be "fair"

it's the system we have, could be worse like a real king/monarch or the UK
 
Proportional Representation, because I know that both sides are corrupt

if both sides are then what other choice is there to be "fair"

it's the system we have, could be worse like a real king/monarch or the UK

With PR, you'd have more parties to choose from. Which means those political parties would have to appeal to people.

Right now both parties attack each other. Aside from the partisans who will ALWAYS vote for their political party, the others are basically voting AGAINST someone.

Trump didn't WIN the last election. Kamala lost it.

Look at Germany, they vote FPTP and PR on the same day. Different results.

This year the CDU/CSU got 32% of the vote with FPTP and 172 seats from 276 seats. That's 62% of the seats.

With PR they got 27.5% of the vote, losing 4.5% of all voters, and 208 seats from 630 seats, or 33% of the seats.

Do you see a difference. EVERY ELECTION the two main parties get more votes with FPTP than with PR, and every election, the smaller parties get more votes with PR than FPTP.

People have a choice in Germany.

Don't like the main conservative party? Vote another conservative party.

In the US the choice you have if you don't like the main conservative party is to A) vote for them anyway, B) vote left wing or C) vote third party and you might as well not vote.

In most cases you're rewarding the main two parties for being SHIT. In Germany, people will "reward" the main parties by voting for someone else, forcing the main parties to actually LISTEN to the people.
 
With PR, you'd have more parties to choose from. Which means those political parties would have to appeal to people.

Right now both parties attack each other. Aside from the partisans who will ALWAYS vote for their political party, the others are basically voting AGAINST someone.

Trump didn't WIN the last election. Kamala lost it.

Look at Germany, they vote FPTP and PR on the same day. Different results.

This year the CDU/CSU got 32% of the vote with FPTP and 172 seats from 276 seats. That's 62% of the seats.

With PR they got 27.5% of the vote, losing 4.5% of all voters, and 208 seats from 630 seats, or 33% of the seats.

Do you see a difference. EVERY ELECTION the two main parties get more votes with FPTP than with PR, and every election, the smaller parties get more votes with PR than FPTP.

People have a choice in Germany.

Don't like the main conservative party? Vote another conservative party.

In the US the choice you have if you don't like the main conservative party is to A) vote for them anyway, B) vote left wing or C) vote third party and you might as well not vote.

In most cases you're rewarding the main two parties for being SHIT. In Germany, people will "reward" the main parties by voting for someone else, forcing the main parties to actually LISTEN to the people.
well we are a two party system with smaller parties like independent and libertarian but they are around 5% at best

no major 3rd party since the whigs

you and me or anybody is not going to change this system anytime soon, it just is
 
well we are a two party system with smaller parties like independent and libertarian but they are around 5% at best

no major 3rd party since the whigs

you and me or anybody is not going to change this system anytime soon, it just is

Great. Imagine a democracy where the people say "nothing we can do to change anything".

That's not democracy.

But then people could, if they had the balls, stand up and fight for it. But you can't be bothered, so, accept your slavedom.
 
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