Mass public shootings...."Active Shooter," "Terror at the Mall," the Kenya attack are must see documentaries to understand these events...

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Active Shooter...saw this series on Showtime.....it covered some of the major mass public shootings....Terror at the Mall covered the terrorist attack in Kenya...

If you want to understand mass public shootings, really understand them.....catch these shows....

you will see that an armed group of citizens would have saved lives in every one of these situations...from the Pulse night club shooting, to the Colorado theater shooting, to the Kenya mall attack..

The Active Shooter show talks to the survivors who were in the buildings at the time of the attack.....and what you hear from their own accounts is the amount of time they would have had to shoot the attacker if they had only been armed....

The Pulse Night club shooter walked into a bathroom, set his weapons down and washed his face....knowing that inside each stall were multiple people hiding from him........one of the witnesses in that bathroom fell off the toilet seat onto the floor..her back was to the stall door exposed under the door. The shooter walked up, and touched her back...and then left...

Another victim stated he was wounded on the floor of the night club....as the shooter walked around killing the wounded, he watched him......at any point, had he had a guy, he could have shot the killer...

If you want to understand how insane the anti-gun extremists are......how uninformed and clueless they are...catch these shows...........the Terror at the Mall has the attack on video footage...where you see exactly where armed people could have stopped the attack..but instead, were shot to death, calmly and without haste by the terrorists....
 
The Navy Yard shooting.......

A woman in the building trying to escape was going down stairs....and ran into the shooter......they stared at each other, he raised his shotgun and shot her in the shoulder, almost tearing off her arm....then he moved on......you can see from what she relates, that had she had a gun, she likely could have driven off, wounded or killed the attacker...........but she didn't have a gun...
 
That one on the Kenyan shopping mall was excellent.

I don't know if an armed citizen could've done much. It depends on the citizen, I guess. Some are more capable than others.

And if everyone in the shopping mall had a gun, there probably would've been a lot of friendly fire incidents with innocent people mistaking each other for the terrorists.
 
That one on the Kenyan shopping mall was excellent.

I don't know if an armed citizen could've done much. It depends on the citizen, I guess. Some are more capable than others.

And if everyone in the shopping mall had a gun, there probably would've been a lot of friendly fire incidents with innocent people mistaking each other for the terrorists.


Yeah...except those friendly fire incidents don't happen........

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
 
I started to watch it when it said a mass shooting occurs everyday in America. Stopped right there.
 

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