Masks Don't Work

[HappyJoy]

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

If you are touching your face more with a mask you have an ill fitting mask... Get a proper fitting one and you don't need to touch it...

Tip: take your mask off with hand sanitiser on, it stops the virus getting on your hands...

You know even if you have antibodies you can still get COVID and pass it on to others?
You won't even free anything, you will be just running around like Typhoid Mary. She didn't think she was harming anyone either.

Look at the CDC excess deaths and explain them... I have a hospital full of patients as evidence...

All this pseudoscientific nonsense and other ignorance brought to you by the side whose “science” asserts that Bruce Jenner is a woman.

So if masks don't work, you don't care if your doctor or dentist wears a mask when operating on you, to prevent infection. You're good with whatever they're breathing on you.

It is likely masks worn by doctors and dentists accomplish nothing at all.
It is just psychological.

They wear them to protect patients from saliva. You're wrong. But not from viruses, there you're correct.

Saliva has a mild disinfectant.
If saliva were so bad, then humans would not kiss and animals would not lick themselves clean.

Diseases are spread through saliva.

Diseases are spread by spores, and those travel even better once the saliva dries out.
Saliva kills or inhibits pathogen growth more than it aids it.
When you cough or sneeze, that us mucus, NOT saliva.
You don't know what you are talking about.

Someone else's saliva has never been shown to prevent disease in another. It tends to carry it.

You believe in some weird shit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Will leftists accept REAL SCIENCE?

I already know the answer.

This is what REAL science looks like

View attachment 436438

Masks work if you replace it after every use and or wash it and wash your hands each and every time before you touch your face. Since no one does that they are more of a hindrance than help. Hence our cases are spiking.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

.

I know you consider yourself a world expert but I will go for a real expert for now..

Oh and screw you.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

FactCheck: Yes, masks, including cloth masks, can help prevent Covid-19 transmission

Studies have shown that masks can help prevent the spread of the virus.

www.thejournal.ie

By the way you are biassing you information on an article written on April the 1st 2020.... The opinion piece very clearly said at the time the information was inconclusive.

The large organisations that have done research since and stated that cloth masks are considerably better than nothing... I personally use a reuseable N95 mask....

Cambridge Mask Review - The Best Reusable Mask?

If you are looking into reusable masks then you will have heard about Cambridge Mask. However, is Cambridge Mask the best reusable mask?

breathesafeair.com

I can find numerous others and none of yours state dirty masks work. Thanks for playing, Cowgirl.

Difference I am using

• WHO
• CDC

Your numerous sites aren't using all the information available... But basic logic should tell you using masks work... Masks of course should be cleaned regularly, that is also in the advice.

No need for insults...

Where do your links state that dirty masks work? Still waiting.....

Where did I say don't wash masks, actually said opposite...

Also, the concept of "work' leads to a 1 or 0... it is not like that, masks reduce transmission... Clean ones are better...

And how many do you believe wash and or replace masks? That was my whole point. Less than 1% I would bet. Actually worn or dirty ones are worse than no mask as they trap bacteria.

I do... All my friends and family do... Maybe you should encourage it. I have a 100 disposable in my car, in case...

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

Now you are making my point... Thanks

You and your family change / wash your masks every single time. You're the only one I know who does it. Catching it twice is a myth.

I also keep a stash in my car and house and regularly swap out for a new one.

You are one of very few. Not one person I know does this and I don't know you. To me you're just a leftist on the web. Most people use the same mask over and over again and touch their face constantly when they take it on and off. Especially in poorer communities where people cannot afford a new mask every hour. Hence the virus keeps spreading.

Gee, face masks are now a multi billion dollar business in the United States alone but you don't know anyone who keeps a stack handy? Maybe you should go out and meet the world (after the pandemic though).

We keep a stack handy but my kids just use the same ones. I wear gaiters. Every single person I know uses the same ones over and over again. Maybe you should stop being such a coward. I had the virus. I am still here.

I'm not sure how swapping out masks is cowardly, it's what you're supposed to do.

Lots of people had the virus and are still here, most of them actually. However we've also lost close to 400k people.

You're a coward because you said I should not go outside and mingle. I do it all the time. We would have lost those people anyway. At least 90% of them. They were either very old and or ill to begin with. The virus is spreading still and people are wearing masks. Hmmmm.....the masks are useless unless your hands are sanitized and the mask is clean. Remember the first rule was DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE. Tough to do so when you're repeatedly taking off and putting on a mask.

And you got COVID too. I haven't and believe it or not the fewer people who do (regardless of plasma donation) the better.

WRONG!
The more people who deliberately get it and then protect the vulnerable, the better.
What is wrong is to slow down the infection rate, giving the virus more time to spread wider and evolve new and more deadly strains.
The quicker you end an epidemic the better.
Since young people are essentially not at risk, they should be volunteering.

Rigby and I never agree but we agree here. The world is ending. He is 100% correct

I agree, you're both not that bright.

Opinions vary. You had to resort to ad hominems. Cool. I may fire back. You're a coward. Go back to your bunker.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

If you are touching your face more with a mask you have an ill fitting mask... Get a proper fitting one and you don't need to touch it...

Tip: take your mask off with hand sanitiser on, it stops the virus getting on your hands...

You know even if you have antibodies you can still get COVID and pass it on to others?
You won't even free anything, you will be just running around like Typhoid Mary. She didn't think she was harming anyone either.

Look at the CDC excess deaths and explain them... I have a hospital full of patients as evidence...

All this pseudoscientific nonsense and other ignorance brought to you by the side whose “science” asserts that Bruce Jenner is a woman.

So if masks don't work, you don't care if your doctor or dentist wears a mask when operating on you, to prevent infection. You're good with whatever they're breathing on you.

It is likely masks worn by doctors and dentists accomplish nothing at all.
It is just psychological.

They wear them to protect patients from saliva. You're wrong. But not from viruses, there you're correct.

Saliva has a mild disinfectant.
If saliva were so bad, then humans would not kiss and animals would not lick themselves clean.

Diseases are spread through saliva.

Diseases are spread by spores, and those travel even better once the saliva dries out.
Saliva kills or inhibits pathogen growth more than it aids it.
When you cough or sneeze, that us mucus, NOT saliva.
You don't know what you are talking about.

Someone else's saliva has never been shown to prevent disease in another. It tends to carry it.

You believe in some weird shit.

Dog saliva has. Don't know about human saliva.

 

[HappyJoy]

Will leftists accept REAL SCIENCE?

I already know the answer.

This is what REAL science looks like

View attachment 436438

Masks work if you replace it after every use and or wash it and wash your hands each and every time before you touch your face. Since no one does that they are more of a hindrance than help. Hence our cases are spiking.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

.

I know you consider yourself a world expert but I will go for a real expert for now..

Oh and screw you.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

FactCheck: Yes, masks, including cloth masks, can help prevent Covid-19 transmission

Studies have shown that masks can help prevent the spread of the virus.

www.thejournal.ie

By the way you are biassing you information on an article written on April the 1st 2020.... The opinion piece very clearly said at the time the information was inconclusive.

The large organisations that have done research since and stated that cloth masks are considerably better than nothing... I personally use a reuseable N95 mask....

Cambridge Mask Review - The Best Reusable Mask?

If you are looking into reusable masks then you will have heard about Cambridge Mask. However, is Cambridge Mask the best reusable mask?

breathesafeair.com

I can find numerous others and none of yours state dirty masks work. Thanks for playing, Cowgirl.

Difference I am using

• WHO
• CDC

Your numerous sites aren't using all the information available... But basic logic should tell you using masks work... Masks of course should be cleaned regularly, that is also in the advice.

No need for insults...

Where do your links state that dirty masks work? Still waiting.....

Where did I say don't wash masks, actually said opposite...

Also, the concept of "work' leads to a 1 or 0... it is not like that, masks reduce transmission... Clean ones are better...

And how many do you believe wash and or replace masks? That was my whole point. Less than 1% I would bet. Actually worn or dirty ones are worse than no mask as they trap bacteria.

I do... All my friends and family do... Maybe you should encourage it. I have a 100 disposable in my car, in case...

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

Now you are making my point... Thanks

You and your family change / wash your masks every single time. You're the only one I know who does it. Catching it twice is a myth.

I also keep a stash in my car and house and regularly swap out for a new one.

You are one of very few. Not one person I know does this and I don't know you. To me you're just a leftist on the web. Most people use the same mask over and over again and touch their face constantly when they take it on and off. Especially in poorer communities where people cannot afford a new mask every hour. Hence the virus keeps spreading.

Gee, face masks are now a multi billion dollar business in the United States alone but you don't know anyone who keeps a stack handy? Maybe you should go out and meet the world (after the pandemic though).

We keep a stack handy but my kids just use the same ones. I wear gaiters. Every single person I know uses the same ones over and over again. Maybe you should stop being such a coward. I had the virus. I am still here.

I'm not sure how swapping out masks is cowardly, it's what you're supposed to do.

Lots of people had the virus and are still here, most of them actually. However we've also lost close to 400k people.

You're a coward because you said I should not go outside and mingle. I do it all the time. We would have lost those people anyway. At least 90% of them. They were either very old and or ill to begin with. The virus is spreading still and people are wearing masks. Hmmmm.....the masks are useless unless your hands are sanitized and the mask is clean. Remember the first rule was DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE. Tough to do so when you're repeatedly taking off and putting on a mask.

And you got COVID too. I haven't and believe it or not the fewer people who do (regardless of plasma donation) the better.

WRONG!
The more people who deliberately get it and then protect the vulnerable, the better.

Nobody serious believes this.

What is wrong is to slow down the infection rate, giving the virus more time to spread wider and evolve new and more deadly strains.

Time is not the factor in mutation it's the number of hosts that creates mutations. So, another reason your anti-science views are wrong.

POV: There’s Another Reason to Flatten the Curve, and It’s One You Haven’t Heard Yet

Social distancing is our best shot at controlling the mutation rate and preventing more virulent strains

www.bu.edu

The quicker you end an epidemic the better.

If you don't mind more people dying then yes.

Since young people are essentially not at risk, they should be volunteering.

Except for a couple of things. One, since I have shown you that the more people who get COVID the more mutations there will be means COVID could become more deadly and a newer strain could kill younger people.

Secondly, we don't have a clear understanding what long lasting effects those who have had COVID will be dealing with. As they age what sort of ailments will they be dealing with?

COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects

Learn about the long-term effects of COVID-19 on the lungs, brain and nervous system.

www.mayoclinic.org

.

Except when you get it you get the antibodies and won't get it again. This isn't the plague. Chill, snowflake. While we don't know we also should not always assume the worst.

I don't know how long the antibodies last. In order to get those antibodies a certain percentage die. So far close to 400k. Secondly, many survivors may be facing long term health issues.

It's not about assuming the best or worst it's about working with the information we have.

 

[HappyJoy]

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

If you are touching your face more with a mask you have an ill fitting mask... Get a proper fitting one and you don't need to touch it...

Tip: take your mask off with hand sanitiser on, it stops the virus getting on your hands...

You know even if you have antibodies you can still get COVID and pass it on to others?
You won't even free anything, you will be just running around like Typhoid Mary. She didn't think she was harming anyone either.

Look at the CDC excess deaths and explain them... I have a hospital full of patients as evidence...

All this pseudoscientific nonsense and other ignorance brought to you by the side whose “science” asserts that Bruce Jenner is a woman.

So if masks don't work, you don't care if your doctor or dentist wears a mask when operating on you, to prevent infection. You're good with whatever they're breathing on you.

It is likely masks worn by doctors and dentists accomplish nothing at all.
It is just psychological.

They wear them to protect patients from saliva. You're wrong. But not from viruses, there you're correct.

Saliva has a mild disinfectant.
If saliva were so bad, then humans would not kiss and animals would not lick themselves clean.

Diseases are spread through saliva.

Diseases are spread by spores, and those travel even better once the saliva dries out.
Saliva kills or inhibits pathogen growth more than it aids it.
When you cough or sneeze, that us mucus, NOT saliva.
You don't know what you are talking about.

Someone else's saliva has never been shown to prevent disease in another. It tends to carry it.

You believe in some weird shit.

Dog saliva has. Don't know about human saliva.

The average domesticated dog saliva doesn't carry as many diseases that affect humans.

 

[HappyJoy]

Will leftists accept REAL SCIENCE?

I already know the answer.

This is what REAL science looks like

View attachment 436438

Masks work if you replace it after every use and or wash it and wash your hands each and every time before you touch your face. Since no one does that they are more of a hindrance than help. Hence our cases are spiking.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

.

I know you consider yourself a world expert but I will go for a real expert for now..

Oh and screw you.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

FactCheck: Yes, masks, including cloth masks, can help prevent Covid-19 transmission

Studies have shown that masks can help prevent the spread of the virus.

www.thejournal.ie

By the way you are biassing you information on an article written on April the 1st 2020.... The opinion piece very clearly said at the time the information was inconclusive.

The large organisations that have done research since and stated that cloth masks are considerably better than nothing... I personally use a reuseable N95 mask....

Cambridge Mask Review - The Best Reusable Mask?

If you are looking into reusable masks then you will have heard about Cambridge Mask. However, is Cambridge Mask the best reusable mask?

breathesafeair.com

I can find numerous others and none of yours state dirty masks work. Thanks for playing, Cowgirl.

Difference I am using

• WHO
• CDC

Your numerous sites aren't using all the information available... But basic logic should tell you using masks work... Masks of course should be cleaned regularly, that is also in the advice.

No need for insults...

Where do your links state that dirty masks work? Still waiting.....

Where did I say don't wash masks, actually said opposite...

Also, the concept of "work' leads to a 1 or 0... it is not like that, masks reduce transmission... Clean ones are better...

And how many do you believe wash and or replace masks? That was my whole point. Less than 1% I would bet. Actually worn or dirty ones are worse than no mask as they trap bacteria.

I do... All my friends and family do... Maybe you should encourage it. I have a 100 disposable in my car, in case...

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

Now you are making my point... Thanks

You and your family change / wash your masks every single time. You're the only one I know who does it. Catching it twice is a myth.

I also keep a stash in my car and house and regularly swap out for a new one.

You are one of very few. Not one person I know does this and I don't know you. To me you're just a leftist on the web. Most people use the same mask over and over again and touch their face constantly when they take it on and off. Especially in poorer communities where people cannot afford a new mask every hour. Hence the virus keeps spreading.

Gee, face masks are now a multi billion dollar business in the United States alone but you don't know anyone who keeps a stack handy? Maybe you should go out and meet the world (after the pandemic though).

We keep a stack handy but my kids just use the same ones. I wear gaiters. Every single person I know uses the same ones over and over again. Maybe you should stop being such a coward. I had the virus. I am still here.

I'm not sure how swapping out masks is cowardly, it's what you're supposed to do.

Lots of people had the virus and are still here, most of them actually. However we've also lost close to 400k people.

You're a coward because you said I should not go outside and mingle. I do it all the time. We would have lost those people anyway. At least 90% of them. They were either very old and or ill to begin with. The virus is spreading still and people are wearing masks. Hmmmm.....the masks are useless unless your hands are sanitized and the mask is clean. Remember the first rule was DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE. Tough to do so when you're repeatedly taking off and putting on a mask.

And you got COVID too. I haven't and believe it or not the fewer people who do (regardless of plasma donation) the better.

WRONG!
The more people who deliberately get it and then protect the vulnerable, the better.
What is wrong is to slow down the infection rate, giving the virus more time to spread wider and evolve new and more deadly strains.
The quicker you end an epidemic the better.
Since young people are essentially not at risk, they should be volunteering.

Rigby and I never agree but we agree here. The world is ending. He is 100% correct

I agree, you're both not that bright.

Opinions vary. You had to resort to ad hominems. Cool. I may fire back. You're a coward. Go back to your bunker.

Call it what you want, you guys are dim.

 

[SavannahMann]

I love you idiots. I really do. You guys grasp at one straw and decide that even a slim chance is more than enough reason. Then you denounce even better odds with masks. Let me explain for the slower members of the doubting turds.

Bullet Proof Vests. They do nothing to stop you from being killed if you are shot in the head. But every single cop wears one. It was a scandal and a half when our Troops did not have enough going into battle. When many of them were left with old fashioned “Flack Jackets” instead of far more modern trauma plate Body Armor. People wearing armor still die, so we should not bother issuing any right? I mean it isn’t 110% effective.

When I go into town. I carry a weapon. It is no guarantee that I will survive if something goes down. It is something that increases the odds, gives me options. But since the odds are not 100% we should just go ahead and surrender out weapons. I mean they may only increase my odds of survival by fifteen percent.

Wearing a Mask: Myths and Facts

There are a lot of myths about wearing a mask. Learn the facts about masks and how they keep you safe.

www.umms.org

.

Masks reduce your odds, not provide 100% protection. They may cut your odds of getting Corona by a half, or a third, or perhaps even a quarter. It might only be a ten percent increase in your odds of getting it. And it may reduce the severity. How sick you get depends on the virus load. Let me explain that.

If you are exposed to a single solitary cell of Corona, you probably won’t even notice it. Chances are it is going to die before it causes you problems. If it does go into your body, chances are that your immune system will fight it off before it can replicate enough to kill you. It isn’t like a Nerve Agent, where a single drop will wipe out a room full of people. It needs a lot of things to go right. And Masks are trying to limit the exposure. You might be one of those who test positive, but are Non Symptomatic. A little bit got in your system, and you have it, and are dangerous to others, but you aren’t really sick. Like Typhoid Mary, you infect others, but aren’t sick yourself. You may not even know you had it.

But the Masks only give you better odds. Like Airbags in your car. They don’t guarantee you will survive an accident. They increase the odds. When it’s your child behind the wheel, you want all the advantage you can get don’t you? No car is a guaranteed survive any accident machine. Some are safer, increase your odds more, than others.

You on the Right use statistics constantly. You think that statistics give you the right to stop and harass Blacks because they are more likely to be criminal. But use the same statistics to show how wearing a mask is a good idea, well anyone who believes that is an idiot.

So idiots, keep the masks off. That is how we identified so many of you during the Capital Raid. ANTIFA wear’s masks for hours before hand. And leaves the area still wearing masks in an effort to reduce the chances they will be identified. The White Wing morons don’t wear a mask, because they aren’t sheep. Then they are identified and later arrested, by pictures they are posting. I’m pretty sure that we know who is smarter at least. The LW at least knows to try and cover their faces during criminal activity. The RW just pretends that they have every right to be kicking in doors and breaking windows and there is no crime against it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Will leftists accept REAL SCIENCE?

I already know the answer.

This is what REAL science looks like

View attachment 436438

Masks work if you replace it after every use and or wash it and wash your hands each and every time before you touch your face. Since no one does that they are more of a hindrance than help. Hence our cases are spiking.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

.

I know you consider yourself a world expert but I will go for a real expert for now..

Oh and screw you.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

FactCheck: Yes, masks, including cloth masks, can help prevent Covid-19 transmission

Studies have shown that masks can help prevent the spread of the virus.

www.thejournal.ie

By the way you are biassing you information on an article written on April the 1st 2020.... The opinion piece very clearly said at the time the information was inconclusive.

The large organisations that have done research since and stated that cloth masks are considerably better than nothing... I personally use a reuseable N95 mask....

Cambridge Mask Review - The Best Reusable Mask?

If you are looking into reusable masks then you will have heard about Cambridge Mask. However, is Cambridge Mask the best reusable mask?

breathesafeair.com

I can find numerous others and none of yours state dirty masks work. Thanks for playing, Cowgirl.

Difference I am using

• WHO
• CDC

Your numerous sites aren't using all the information available... But basic logic should tell you using masks work... Masks of course should be cleaned regularly, that is also in the advice.

No need for insults...

Where do your links state that dirty masks work? Still waiting.....

Where did I say don't wash masks, actually said opposite...

Also, the concept of "work' leads to a 1 or 0... it is not like that, masks reduce transmission... Clean ones are better...

And how many do you believe wash and or replace masks? That was my whole point. Less than 1% I would bet. Actually worn or dirty ones are worse than no mask as they trap bacteria.

I do... All my friends and family do... Maybe you should encourage it. I have a 100 disposable in my car, in case...

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

Now you are making my point... Thanks

You and your family change / wash your masks every single time. You're the only one I know who does it. Catching it twice is a myth.

I also keep a stash in my car and house and regularly swap out for a new one.

You are one of very few. Not one person I know does this and I don't know you. To me you're just a leftist on the web. Most people use the same mask over and over again and touch their face constantly when they take it on and off. Especially in poorer communities where people cannot afford a new mask every hour. Hence the virus keeps spreading.

Gee, face masks are now a multi billion dollar business in the United States alone but you don't know anyone who keeps a stack handy? Maybe you should go out and meet the world (after the pandemic though).

We keep a stack handy but my kids just use the same ones. I wear gaiters. Every single person I know uses the same ones over and over again. Maybe you should stop being such a coward. I had the virus. I am still here.

I'm not sure how swapping out masks is cowardly, it's what you're supposed to do.

Lots of people had the virus and are still here, most of them actually. However we've also lost close to 400k people.

You're a coward because you said I should not go outside and mingle. I do it all the time. We would have lost those people anyway. At least 90% of them. They were either very old and or ill to begin with. The virus is spreading still and people are wearing masks. Hmmmm.....the masks are useless unless your hands are sanitized and the mask is clean. Remember the first rule was DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE. Tough to do so when you're repeatedly taking off and putting on a mask.

And you got COVID too. I haven't and believe it or not the fewer people who do (regardless of plasma donation) the better.

WRONG!
The more people who deliberately get it and then protect the vulnerable, the better.

Nobody serious believes this.

What is wrong is to slow down the infection rate, giving the virus more time to spread wider and evolve new and more deadly strains.

Time is not the factor in mutation it's the number of hosts that creates mutations. So, another reason your anti-science views are wrong.

POV: There’s Another Reason to Flatten the Curve, and It’s One You Haven’t Heard Yet

Social distancing is our best shot at controlling the mutation rate and preventing more virulent strains

www.bu.edu

The quicker you end an epidemic the better.

If you don't mind more people dying then yes.

Since young people are essentially not at risk, they should be volunteering.

Except for a couple of things. One, since I have shown you that the more people who get COVID the more mutations there will be means COVID could become more deadly and a newer strain could kill younger people.

Secondly, we don't have a clear understanding what long lasting effects those who have had COVID will be dealing with. As they age what sort of ailments will they be dealing with?

COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects

Learn about the long-term effects of COVID-19 on the lungs, brain and nervous system.

www.mayoclinic.org

.

Except when you get it you get the antibodies and won't get it again. This isn't the plague. Chill, snowflake. While we don't know we also should not always assume the worst.

I don't know how long the antibodies last. In order to get those antibodies a certain percentage die. So far close to 400k. Secondly, many survivors may be facing long term health issues.

It's not about assuming the best or worst it's about working with the information we have.

May or may not. Are we guessing together? Mine have lasted 10 months thus far.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

If you are touching your face more with a mask you have an ill fitting mask... Get a proper fitting one and you don't need to touch it...

Tip: take your mask off with hand sanitiser on, it stops the virus getting on your hands...

You know even if you have antibodies you can still get COVID and pass it on to others?
You won't even free anything, you will be just running around like Typhoid Mary. She didn't think she was harming anyone either.

Look at the CDC excess deaths and explain them... I have a hospital full of patients as evidence...

All this pseudoscientific nonsense and other ignorance brought to you by the side whose “science” asserts that Bruce Jenner is a woman.

So if masks don't work, you don't care if your doctor or dentist wears a mask when operating on you, to prevent infection. You're good with whatever they're breathing on you.

It is likely masks worn by doctors and dentists accomplish nothing at all.
It is just psychological.

They wear them to protect patients from saliva. You're wrong. But not from viruses, there you're correct.

Saliva has a mild disinfectant.
If saliva were so bad, then humans would not kiss and animals would not lick themselves clean.

Diseases are spread through saliva.

Diseases are spread by spores, and those travel even better once the saliva dries out.
Saliva kills or inhibits pathogen growth more than it aids it.
When you cough or sneeze, that us mucus, NOT saliva.
You don't know what you are talking about.

Someone else's saliva has never been shown to prevent disease in another. It tends to carry it.

You believe in some weird shit.

Dog saliva has. Don't know about human saliva.

The average domesticated dog saliva doesn't carry as many diseases that affect humans.

And?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Will leftists accept REAL SCIENCE?

I already know the answer.

This is what REAL science looks like

View attachment 436438

Masks work if you replace it after every use and or wash it and wash your hands each and every time before you touch your face. Since no one does that they are more of a hindrance than help. Hence our cases are spiking.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

.

I know you consider yourself a world expert but I will go for a real expert for now..

Oh and screw you.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

FactCheck: Yes, masks, including cloth masks, can help prevent Covid-19 transmission

Studies have shown that masks can help prevent the spread of the virus.

www.thejournal.ie

By the way you are biassing you information on an article written on April the 1st 2020.... The opinion piece very clearly said at the time the information was inconclusive.

The large organisations that have done research since and stated that cloth masks are considerably better than nothing... I personally use a reuseable N95 mask....

Cambridge Mask Review - The Best Reusable Mask?

If you are looking into reusable masks then you will have heard about Cambridge Mask. However, is Cambridge Mask the best reusable mask?

breathesafeair.com

I can find numerous others and none of yours state dirty masks work. Thanks for playing, Cowgirl.

Difference I am using

• WHO
• CDC

Your numerous sites aren't using all the information available... But basic logic should tell you using masks work... Masks of course should be cleaned regularly, that is also in the advice.

No need for insults...

Where do your links state that dirty masks work? Still waiting.....

Where did I say don't wash masks, actually said opposite...

Also, the concept of "work' leads to a 1 or 0... it is not like that, masks reduce transmission... Clean ones are better...

And how many do you believe wash and or replace masks? That was my whole point. Less than 1% I would bet. Actually worn or dirty ones are worse than no mask as they trap bacteria.

I do... All my friends and family do... Maybe you should encourage it. I have a 100 disposable in my car, in case...

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

Now you are making my point... Thanks

You and your family change / wash your masks every single time. You're the only one I know who does it. Catching it twice is a myth.

I also keep a stash in my car and house and regularly swap out for a new one.

You are one of very few. Not one person I know does this and I don't know you. To me you're just a leftist on the web. Most people use the same mask over and over again and touch their face constantly when they take it on and off. Especially in poorer communities where people cannot afford a new mask every hour. Hence the virus keeps spreading.

Gee, face masks are now a multi billion dollar business in the United States alone but you don't know anyone who keeps a stack handy? Maybe you should go out and meet the world (after the pandemic though).

We keep a stack handy but my kids just use the same ones. I wear gaiters. Every single person I know uses the same ones over and over again. Maybe you should stop being such a coward. I had the virus. I am still here.

I'm not sure how swapping out masks is cowardly, it's what you're supposed to do.

Lots of people had the virus and are still here, most of them actually. However we've also lost close to 400k people.

You're a coward because you said I should not go outside and mingle. I do it all the time. We would have lost those people anyway. At least 90% of them. They were either very old and or ill to begin with. The virus is spreading still and people are wearing masks. Hmmmm.....the masks are useless unless your hands are sanitized and the mask is clean. Remember the first rule was DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE. Tough to do so when you're repeatedly taking off and putting on a mask.

And you got COVID too. I haven't and believe it or not the fewer people who do (regardless of plasma donation) the better.

WRONG!
The more people who deliberately get it and then protect the vulnerable, the better.
What is wrong is to slow down the infection rate, giving the virus more time to spread wider and evolve new and more deadly strains.
The quicker you end an epidemic the better.
Since young people are essentially not at risk, they should be volunteering.

Rigby and I never agree but we agree here. The world is ending. He is 100% correct

I agree, you're both not that bright.

Opinions vary. You had to resort to ad hominems. Cool. I may fire back. You're a coward. Go back to your bunker.

Call it what you want, you guys are dim.

Smarter and braver than you. Little coward. You on one hand state we need more research and then go and make definitive statements. I ve Had it and still have the antibodies. You idiot.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes we DO want to stop the spread to the young and the healthy, because 20% of them will get REALLY fucking sick, and require tens of thousands of dollars worth of treatment to recover…

I removed your stupid meme. I live in a country where we have mask mandates everywhere, and we got the spread of the virus down to 200 cases a day before re-opening.

None of you conservative idiots every mentions the costs of testing 250 million Americans for covid, or treating the nearly 25 million who have tested positive, or the 400,000 who have died. That's over and above the lost productivity, and the loss of tax revenues for all levels of government. In fact, the only thing conservatives seem concerned about with the stimulus monies, is making sure the corporations get enough, and working people don't get any.

What is collapsing your economy, is the costs of letting the virus rage throughout the country.

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

If you are touching your face more with a mask you have an ill fitting mask... Get a proper fitting one and you don't need to touch it...

Tip: take your mask off with hand sanitiser on, it stops the virus getting on your hands...

You know even if you have antibodies you can still get COVID and pass it on to others?
You won't even free anything, you will be just running around like Typhoid Mary. She didn't think she was harming anyone either.

Look at the CDC excess deaths and explain them... I have a hospital full of patients as evidence...

All this pseudoscientific nonsense and other ignorance brought to you by the side whose “science” asserts that Bruce Jenner is a woman.

So if masks don't work, you don't care if your doctor or dentist wears a mask when operating on you, to prevent infection. You're good with whatever they're breathing on you.

It is likely masks worn by doctors and dentists accomplish nothing at all.
It is just psychological.

They wear them to protect patients from saliva. You're wrong. But not from viruses, there you're correct.

Saliva has a mild disinfectant.
If saliva were so bad, then humans would not kiss and animals would not lick themselves clean.

You are danger to yourself and others, and the best candidate I've seen for a Darwin Award that I've seen in a while.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yes we DO want to stop the spread to the young and the healthy, because 20% of them will get REALLY fucking sick, and require tens of thousands of dollars worth of treatment to recover…

I removed your stupid meme. I live in a country where we have mask mandates everywhere, and we got the spread of the virus down to 200 cases a day before re-opening.

None of you conservative idiots every mentions the costs of testing 250 million Americans for covid, or treating the nearly 25 million who have tested positive, or the 400,000 who have died. That's over and above the lost productivity, and the loss of tax revenues for all levels of government. In fact, the only thing conservatives seem concerned about with the stimulus monies, is making sure the corporations get enough, and working people don't get any.

What is collapsing your economy, is the costs of letting the virus rage throughout the country.

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

If you are touching your face more with a mask you have an ill fitting mask... Get a proper fitting one and you don't need to touch it...

Tip: take your mask off with hand sanitiser on, it stops the virus getting on your hands...

You know even if you have antibodies you can still get COVID and pass it on to others?
You won't even free anything, you will be just running around like Typhoid Mary. She didn't think she was harming anyone either.

Look at the CDC excess deaths and explain them... I have a hospital full of patients as evidence...

All this pseudoscientific nonsense and other ignorance brought to you by the side whose “science” asserts that Bruce Jenner is a woman.

So if masks don't work, you don't care if your doctor or dentist wears a mask when operating on you, to prevent infection. You're good with whatever they're breathing on you.

It is likely masks worn by doctors and dentists accomplish nothing at all.
It is just psychological.

They wear them to protect patients from saliva. You're wrong. But not from viruses, there you're correct.

Saliva has a mild disinfectant.
If saliva were so bad, then humans would not kiss and animals would not lick themselves clean.

You are danger to yourself and others, and the best candidate I've seen for a Darwin Award that I've seen in a while.

Would you please go away already? Your hatred for America is insane like you.

 

[Lesh]

No. I am saying people don't swap out/wash/clean/wash their hands effectively enough to make masks effective.

So because some people act stupidly everyone should? Wear your mask. Wash your fucking hands. It ain't rocket surgery

Poor people especially cannot afford to keep buying masks.

Effective masks can be made out of three layers of old T shirts and dumped in a bucket of soapy water to disenfect. Stop making excuses. That's all they are.

And you have to touch your face every time you take it off and put it on.

You absolutely do not and hey...wash your hands. Boy this is tough stuff huh?

Fucking moron

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No. I am saying people don't swap out/wash/clean/wash their hands effectively enough to make masks effective.

So because some people act stupidly everyone should? Wear your mask. Wash your fucking hands. It ain't rocket surgery

Poor people especially cannot afford to keep buying masks.

Effective masks can be made out of three layers of old T shirts and dumped in a bucket of soapy water to disenfect. Stop making excuses. That's all they are.

And you have to touch your face every time you take it off and put it on.

You absolutely do not and hey...wash your hands. Boy this is tough stuff huh?

Fucking moron

Not some. Most!
Senior Shit, why are you always so stupid. Ask your friends (if you have any) how often they wash their masks and their hands. You are a very stupid person. This is why the virus is still spreading. Otherwise if most people did as you say, it would not be. Dumbass.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The masks, washing of hands, social distancing, staying home & isolating when sick are all meant to mitigate the spread of the virus.

If you truly believe that, then you are exactly the sort of ignorant, gullible, compliant sheep that these tyrannical filth love to rule over.

None of what has been demanded of us in response to the #CoronaHoax2020 is about controlling any virus. It's about controlling •YOU•. And you're stupid enough to let them do so, and to refrain from questioning any of it.

Why would you believe that I haven't questioned any of it? And why would I refuse to do something that causes no hardship to me if it can help in some way no matter how small?

Perspective has a lot to do with things I suppose. How has complying with any of the mandates negatively impacted you or your life?

 

[Lesh]

No. I am saying people don't swap out/wash/clean/wash their hands effectively enough to make masks effective.

So because some people act stupidly everyone should? Wear your mask. Wash your fucking hands. It ain't rocket surgery

Poor people especially cannot afford to keep buying masks.

Effective masks can be made out of three layers of old T shirts and dumped in a bucket of soapy water to disenfect. Stop making excuses. That's all they are.

And you have to touch your face every time you take it off and put it on.

You absolutely do not and hey...wash your hands. Boy this is tough stuff huh?

Fucking moron

Not some. Most!
Senior Shit, why are you always so stupid. Ask your friends (if you have any) how often they wash their masks and their hands. You are a very stupid person. This is why the virus is still spreading. Otherwise if most people did as you say, it would not be. Dumbass.

I know how often they wash and sanitize because I see them do it.I don't hang out with idiots like you do...which is why YOU got covid and I didn't.

Ya fucking piece of shit

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Rep. Cicilline (D-RI), who co-authored the impeachment article against President Donald Trump, was caught on camera removing his mask to sneeze into his hand, then putting his mask back in place, at the Impeachment hearing. The incident happened when Rep. Yvette Clark was speaking at the podium in front of him. Many noted Cicilline did not wash his hands or use santizer.

He obviously doesn't understand the process

 

[jbrownson0831]

Why then did I have to carry a mask in the army for so many years?

Because you were ugly??

 

[HappyJoy]

Will leftists accept REAL SCIENCE?

I already know the answer.

This is what REAL science looks like

View attachment 436438

Masks work if you replace it after every use and or wash it and wash your hands each and every time before you touch your face. Since no one does that they are more of a hindrance than help. Hence our cases are spiking.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

.

I know you consider yourself a world expert but I will go for a real expert for now..

Oh and screw you.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

FactCheck: Yes, masks, including cloth masks, can help prevent Covid-19 transmission

Studies have shown that masks can help prevent the spread of the virus.

www.thejournal.ie

By the way you are biassing you information on an article written on April the 1st 2020.... The opinion piece very clearly said at the time the information was inconclusive.

The large organisations that have done research since and stated that cloth masks are considerably better than nothing... I personally use a reuseable N95 mask....

Cambridge Mask Review - The Best Reusable Mask?

If you are looking into reusable masks then you will have heard about Cambridge Mask. However, is Cambridge Mask the best reusable mask?

breathesafeair.com

I can find numerous others and none of yours state dirty masks work. Thanks for playing, Cowgirl.

Difference I am using

• WHO
• CDC

Your numerous sites aren't using all the information available... But basic logic should tell you using masks work... Masks of course should be cleaned regularly, that is also in the advice.

No need for insults...

Where do your links state that dirty masks work? Still waiting.....

Where did I say don't wash masks, actually said opposite...

Also, the concept of "work' leads to a 1 or 0... it is not like that, masks reduce transmission... Clean ones are better...

And how many do you believe wash and or replace masks? That was my whole point. Less than 1% I would bet. Actually worn or dirty ones are worse than no mask as they trap bacteria.

I do... All my friends and family do... Maybe you should encourage it. I have a 100 disposable in my car, in case...

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

Now you are making my point... Thanks

You and your family change / wash your masks every single time. You're the only one I know who does it. Catching it twice is a myth.

I also keep a stash in my car and house and regularly swap out for a new one.

You are one of very few. Not one person I know does this and I don't know you. To me you're just a leftist on the web. Most people use the same mask over and over again and touch their face constantly when they take it on and off. Especially in poorer communities where people cannot afford a new mask every hour. Hence the virus keeps spreading.

Gee, face masks are now a multi billion dollar business in the United States alone but you don't know anyone who keeps a stack handy? Maybe you should go out and meet the world (after the pandemic though).

We keep a stack handy but my kids just use the same ones. I wear gaiters. Every single person I know uses the same ones over and over again. Maybe you should stop being such a coward. I had the virus. I am still here.

I'm not sure how swapping out masks is cowardly, it's what you're supposed to do.

Lots of people had the virus and are still here, most of them actually. However we've also lost close to 400k people.

You're a coward because you said I should not go outside and mingle. I do it all the time. We would have lost those people anyway. At least 90% of them. They were either very old and or ill to begin with. The virus is spreading still and people are wearing masks. Hmmmm.....the masks are useless unless your hands are sanitized and the mask is clean. Remember the first rule was DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE. Tough to do so when you're repeatedly taking off and putting on a mask.

And you got COVID too. I haven't and believe it or not the fewer people who do (regardless of plasma donation) the better.

WRONG!
The more people who deliberately get it and then protect the vulnerable, the better.

Nobody serious believes this.

What is wrong is to slow down the infection rate, giving the virus more time to spread wider and evolve new and more deadly strains.

Time is not the factor in mutation it's the number of hosts that creates mutations. So, another reason your anti-science views are wrong.

POV: There’s Another Reason to Flatten the Curve, and It’s One You Haven’t Heard Yet

Social distancing is our best shot at controlling the mutation rate and preventing more virulent strains

www.bu.edu

The quicker you end an epidemic the better.

If you don't mind more people dying then yes.

Since young people are essentially not at risk, they should be volunteering.

Except for a couple of things. One, since I have shown you that the more people who get COVID the more mutations there will be means COVID could become more deadly and a newer strain could kill younger people.

Secondly, we don't have a clear understanding what long lasting effects those who have had COVID will be dealing with. As they age what sort of ailments will they be dealing with?

COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects

Learn about the long-term effects of COVID-19 on the lungs, brain and nervous system.

www.mayoclinic.org

.

Except when you get it you get the antibodies and won't get it again. This isn't the plague. Chill, snowflake. While we don't know we also should not always assume the worst.

I don't know how long the antibodies last. In order to get those antibodies a certain percentage die. So far close to 400k. Secondly, many survivors may be facing long term health issues.

It's not about assuming the best or worst it's about working with the information we have.

May or may not. Are we guessing together? Mine have lasted 10 months thus far.

I'm not interested in guessing games.

 

[HappyJoy]

Will leftists accept REAL SCIENCE?

I already know the answer.

This is what REAL science looks like

View attachment 436438

Masks work if you replace it after every use and or wash it and wash your hands each and every time before you touch your face. Since no one does that they are more of a hindrance than help. Hence our cases are spiking.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

.

I know you consider yourself a world expert but I will go for a real expert for now..

Oh and screw you.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

FactCheck: Yes, masks, including cloth masks, can help prevent Covid-19 transmission

Studies have shown that masks can help prevent the spread of the virus.

www.thejournal.ie

By the way you are biassing you information on an article written on April the 1st 2020.... The opinion piece very clearly said at the time the information was inconclusive.

The large organisations that have done research since and stated that cloth masks are considerably better than nothing... I personally use a reuseable N95 mask....

Cambridge Mask Review - The Best Reusable Mask?

If you are looking into reusable masks then you will have heard about Cambridge Mask. However, is Cambridge Mask the best reusable mask?

breathesafeair.com

I can find numerous others and none of yours state dirty masks work. Thanks for playing, Cowgirl.

Difference I am using

• WHO
• CDC

Your numerous sites aren't using all the information available... But basic logic should tell you using masks work... Masks of course should be cleaned regularly, that is also in the advice.

No need for insults...

Where do your links state that dirty masks work? Still waiting.....

Where did I say don't wash masks, actually said opposite...

Also, the concept of "work' leads to a 1 or 0... it is not like that, masks reduce transmission... Clean ones are better...

And how many do you believe wash and or replace masks? That was my whole point. Less than 1% I would bet. Actually worn or dirty ones are worse than no mask as they trap bacteria.

I do... All my friends and family do... Maybe you should encourage it. I have a 100 disposable in my car, in case...

As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...

Now you are making my point... Thanks

You and your family change / wash your masks every single time. You're the only one I know who does it. Catching it twice is a myth.

I also keep a stash in my car and house and regularly swap out for a new one.

You are one of very few. Not one person I know does this and I don't know you. To me you're just a leftist on the web. Most people use the same mask over and over again and touch their face constantly when they take it on and off. Especially in poorer communities where people cannot afford a new mask every hour. Hence the virus keeps spreading.

Gee, face masks are now a multi billion dollar business in the United States alone but you don't know anyone who keeps a stack handy? Maybe you should go out and meet the world (after the pandemic though).

We keep a stack handy but my kids just use the same ones. I wear gaiters. Every single person I know uses the same ones over and over again. Maybe you should stop being such a coward. I had the virus. I am still here.

I'm not sure how swapping out masks is cowardly, it's what you're supposed to do.

Lots of people had the virus and are still here, most of them actually. However we've also lost close to 400k people.

You're a coward because you said I should not go outside and mingle. I do it all the time. We would have lost those people anyway. At least 90% of them. They were either very old and or ill to begin with. The virus is spreading still and people are wearing masks. Hmmmm.....the masks are useless unless your hands are sanitized and the mask is clean. Remember the first rule was DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE. Tough to do so when you're repeatedly taking off and putting on a mask.

And you got COVID too. I haven't and believe it or not the fewer people who do (regardless of plasma donation) the better.

WRONG!
The more people who deliberately get it and then protect the vulnerable, the better.
What is wrong is to slow down the infection rate, giving the virus more time to spread wider and evolve new and more deadly strains.
The quicker you end an epidemic the better.
Since young people are essentially not at risk, they should be volunteering.

Rigby and I never agree but we agree here. The world is ending. He is 100% correct

I agree, you're both not that bright.

Opinions vary. You had to resort to ad hominems. Cool. I may fire back. You're a coward. Go back to your bunker.

Call it what you want, you guys are dim.

Smarter and braver than you. Little coward. You on one hand state we need more research and then go and make definitive statements. I ve Had it and still have the antibodies. You idiot.

Believe it or not the pandemic isn't about you. I'm not interested in you personal story.