Masculinity on the Decline

[Tilly]

Speak for yourselves. This old lib is 72 years old, and preparing for another 12 hour day as a millwright in a steel mill. In the meantime, I see you fellows as the kind that takes a couple of days off for a paper cut. All flap yap, no real substance. You talk about masculinity, and have no idea of what that is.

That's kind of the point of the op, isn't it? Here you are at 72 preparing for what sounds like a 12 hour physically demanding day (kudos, btw) and at the same time so many young men seem to be a bit wussy, gay or gender confused/ambiguous. I say 'seem to be' because I think the media tends to find such men 'interesting' and vice versa, and that they are probably way over represented in the media.

 

[Tilly]

Has traditional masculinity gone out of style? Personally, I hope it makes a comeback.


Masculinity is on the decline in the United States, especially within the younger generation. See Pajama Boy, male millennial who swears he gets his period, and the rise of the male feminist as evidence.

Now, a recent survey conducted by YouGov in mid-May seems to confirm the same. The survey asked American men to rate their own masculinity on a scale from 0 to 6; 0 being “completely masculine” and 6 being “completely feminine.” The results showed major differences between generations and their own perceived masculinity.

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Poll: Only 30 Percent of Young Men Identify As Completely ‘Masculine’

Interesting. Explains why Millennial "men" intimidate so easily around completely masculine males.

And need safe spaces

 

[there4eyeM]

Personal preference has always been more for feminine than 'masculine' company. Men are often too abrasive, rash and dominance oriented. Women find me more than 'masculine' enough.

 

[Auld Phart]

It's gotten so bad that some wingnuts think that fancy-man Donald Trump is masculine.

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expect to see him in spandex with a 6-pack?

Be like expecting to see Hillary in a bikini to prove she's feminine

 

[Wry Catcher]

Has traditional masculinity gone out of style? Personally, I hope it makes a comeback.


Masculinity is on the decline in the United States, especially within the younger generation. See Pajama Boy, male millennial who swears he gets his period, and the rise of the male feminist as evidence.

Now, a recent survey conducted by YouGov in mid-May seems to confirm the same. The survey asked American men to rate their own masculinity on a scale from 0 to 6; 0 being “completely masculine” and 6 being “completely feminine.” The results showed major differences between generations and their own perceived masculinity.

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Poll: Only 30 Percent of Young Men Identify As Completely ‘Masculine’

Define masculine.

It's good question. You have to wonder if men who do not see themselves as masculine have a different definition of it. I am female so I can't take the poll. I define masculinity in the traditional way. Including but not limited to these examples. Masculine men act, they don't sit around and complain. Masculine men protect the less strong.

Thank you.

I'd define the term in another way. Masculine men are not Machismo

the definition of machismo

I ran my agencies domestic violence unit, many of the violent abusers fit the mold as defined in the link above.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

There has been a war on men for quite some time. We have gone from "Father Knows Best" to "The Simpsons." The reason, in my opinion, is that woman can't be made stronger so in order to have equality men must be made weaker.

Doesn't help that if a man asserts his masculinity they are condemned as being a caveman.

I think you are right. Sad, isn't it? The price of "equality" as morphed many men into wimps.

not trolling, just a serious question

So do you consider this manly?

Is this a manly example?

You can always count on a liberal to be a Bigot. They hate anyone who is happy with their religion.

 

[mdk]

Older people think the younger generation is less masculine then their generation!? A thought that is as old as the hills.

 

[Tilly]

So most, not all, military men are conservative. We go out every day knowing that at some point it could be the last time we see our family. Yet you say we take days off for a paper cut. You bitch how you have to work a 12 hour day, and boo hoo for you, while many of US had to deal with 16 hours a day, sometimes less if some insurgent decided to lob a few RBG's. Yep you liberals really know US quite well, and because of US, you can sit in your cushy job worrying that you might get splinter and then get 30 days off for disability. Don't mess with REAL MEN bub, since we have been at war, with those who wish to kill US, I will get down and dirty and throw insults right back at your liberal sorry ass.

Woah. That's a bit harsh. This gentleman is 72 yrs old and still working 12 hr shifts in a steel mill. And you don't know what he's done before in his life. I don't expect he was referring to men who have served or are serving (bless you, btw) as the ones crying over paper cuts, either. Just sayin'.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So most, not all, military men are conservative. We go out every day knowing that at some point it could be the last time we see our family. Yet you say we take days off for a paper cut. You bitch how you have to work a 12 hour day, and boo hoo for you, while many of US had to deal with 16 hours a day, sometimes less if some insurgent decided to lob a few RBG's. Yep you liberals really know US quite well, and because of US, you can sit in your cushy job worrying that you might get splinter and then get 30 days off for disability. Don't mess with REAL MEN bub, since we have been at war, with those who wish to kill US, I will get down and dirty and throw insults right back at your liberal sorry ass.

Woah. That's a bit harsh. This gentleman is 72 yrs old and still working 12 hr shifts in a steel mill. And you don't know what he's done before in his life. I don't expect he was referring to men who have served or are serving (bless you, btw) as the ones crying over paper cuts, either. Just sayin'.

Then he shouldn't cast a stone in a glass house? What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. He wants to compare US to sissies, without knowing what we did before. I served my country proudly , am a REAL man, and wont take shit from a liberal. They have ruined this great country, and then try to blame US for their screw up. This is another reason why Trump(a real man) will be the next president.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So most, not all, military men are conservative. We go out every day knowing that at some point it could be the last time we see our family. Yet you say we take days off for a paper cut. You bitch how you have to work a 12 hour day, and boo hoo for you, while many of US had to deal with 16 hours a day, sometimes less if some insurgent decided to lob a few RBG's. Yep you liberals really know US quite well, and because of US, you can sit in your cushy job worrying that you might get splinter and then get 30 days off for disability. Don't mess with REAL MEN bub, since we have been at war, with those who wish to kill US, I will get down and dirty and throw insults right back at your liberal sorry ass.

Woah. That's a bit harsh. This gentleman is 72 yrs old and still working 12 hr shifts in a steel mill. And you don't know what he's done before in his life. I don't expect he was referring to men who have served or are serving (bless you, btw) as the ones crying over paper cuts, either. Just sayin'.

Do you wonder why he is still working at 72 years old in Obama's wonderful economy? I mean since he probably voted for hope and change, fundamental transformation of America, the redistribution of wealth, that he would of been totally happy with the 7 1/2 years of economic prosperity that Obama's administration has brought to the US(SARCASM). I fought against Communism/Socialism/Marxism/Progressivism/Liberalism to keep this country free, and then idiots voted in the very Socialist I tried to stop from happening. Yes, I am a little harsh, I have a good reason to be.

 

[Moonglow]

Has traditional masculinity gone out of style? Personally, I hope it makes a comeback.


Masculinity is on the decline in the United States, especially within the younger generation. See Pajama Boy, male millennial who swears he gets his period, and the rise of the male feminist as evidence.

Now, a recent survey conducted by YouGov in mid-May seems to confirm the same. The survey asked American men to rate their own masculinity on a scale from 0 to 6; 0 being “completely masculine” and 6 being “completely feminine.” The results showed major differences between generations and their own perceived masculinity.

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Poll: Only 30 Percent of Young Men Identify As Completely ‘Masculine’

30% of men ask, which is usually around 1000 men..So out of 1000 30% identify as not being butch..Oh my..Yet, everyday I see young men being the brutes they were meant to be...

 

[Moonglow]

So most, not all, military men are conservative. We go out every day knowing that at some point it could be the last time we see our family. Yet you say we take days off for a paper cut. You bitch how you have to work a 12 hour day, and boo hoo for you, while many of US had to deal with 16 hours a day, sometimes less if some insurgent decided to lob a few RBG's. Yep you liberals really know US quite well, and because of US, you can sit in your cushy job worrying that you might get splinter and then get 30 days off for disability. Don't mess with REAL MEN bub, since we have been at war, with those who wish to kill US, I will get down and dirty and throw insults right back at your liberal sorry ass.

Woah. That's a bit harsh. This gentleman is 72 yrs old and still working 12 hr shifts in a steel mill. And you don't know what he's done before in his life. I don't expect he was referring to men who have served or are serving (bless you, btw) as the ones crying over paper cuts, either. Just sayin'.

Then he shouldn't cast a stone in a glass house? What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. He wants to compare US to sissies, without knowing what we did before. I served my country proudly , am a REAL man, and wont take shit from a liberal. They have ruined this great country, and then try to blame US for their screw up. This is another reason why Trump(a real man) will be the next president.

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So a real man is a real idiot and blames his problems on a select few..What a maroon...

 

[Moonglow]

So most, not all, military men are conservative. We go out every day knowing that at some point it could be the last time we see our family. Yet you say we take days off for a paper cut. You bitch how you have to work a 12 hour day, and boo hoo for you, while many of US had to deal with 16 hours a day, sometimes less if some insurgent decided to lob a few RBG's. Yep you liberals really know US quite well, and because of US, you can sit in your cushy job worrying that you might get splinter and then get 30 days off for disability. Don't mess with REAL MEN bub, since we have been at war, with those who wish to kill US, I will get down and dirty and throw insults right back at your liberal sorry ass.

Woah. That's a bit harsh. This gentleman is 72 yrs old and still working 12 hr shifts in a steel mill. And you don't know what he's done before in his life. I don't expect he was referring to men who have served or are serving (bless you, btw) as the ones crying over paper cuts, either. Just sayin'.

Do you wonder why he is still working at 72 years old in Obama's wonderful economy? I mean since he probably voted for hope and change, fundamental transformation of America, the redistribution of wealth, that he would of been totally happy with the 7 1/2 years of economic prosperity that Obama's administration has brought to the US(SARCASM). I fought against Communism/Socialism/Marxism/Progressivism/Liberalism to keep this country free, and then idiots voted in the very Socialist I tried to stop from happening. Yes, I am a little harsh, I have a good reason to be.

Almost every old man I knew from the Great Depression worked into their 70's, what makes you think that working till 70 is bad? Some people don't want to retire. My mother in law is 87 and still wishes she could work...

 

[Moonglow]

There has been a war on men for quite some time. We have gone from "Father Knows Best" to "The Simpsons." The reason, in my opinion, is that woman can't be made stronger so in order to have equality men must be made weaker.

Doesn't help that if a man asserts his masculinity they are condemned as being a caveman.

I think you are right. Sad, isn't it? The price of "equality" as morphed many men into wimps.

not trolling, just a serious question

So do you consider this manly?

Is this a manly example?

You can always count on a liberal to be a Bigot. They hate anyone who is happy with their religion.

They are well paid for their wearing of costumes and passion plays..

 

[Tilly]

So most, not all, military men are conservative. We go out every day knowing that at some point it could be the last time we see our family. Yet you say we take days off for a paper cut. You bitch how you have to work a 12 hour day, and boo hoo for you, while many of US had to deal with 16 hours a day, sometimes less if some insurgent decided to lob a few RBG's. Yep you liberals really know US quite well, and because of US, you can sit in your cushy job worrying that you might get splinter and then get 30 days off for disability. Don't mess with REAL MEN bub, since we have been at war, with those who wish to kill US, I will get down and dirty and throw insults right back at your liberal sorry ass.

Woah. That's a bit harsh. This gentleman is 72 yrs old and still working 12 hr shifts in a steel mill. And you don't know what he's done before in his life. I don't expect he was referring to men who have served or are serving (bless you, btw) as the ones crying over paper cuts, either. Just sayin'.

Then he shouldn't cast a stone in a glass house? What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. He wants to compare US to sissies, without knowing what we did before. I served my country proudly , am a REAL man, and wont take shit from a liberal. They have ruined this great country, and then try to blame US for their screw up. This is another reason why Trump(a real man) will be the next president.

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They are busy destroying Europe too, so I'm with you on that. I just doubt he was referring to people like you, that's all.

 

[Fang]

As long as women remain feminine I don't care what other males do.

Seriously, I'm not surprised at men becoming less masculine. We've become a video playing, iPhone texting, technologically advanced, hire the Hispanic to cut the lawn, to hot to play outside, overweight culture.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So most, not all, military men are conservative. We go out every day knowing that at some point it could be the last time we see our family. Yet you say we take days off for a paper cut. You bitch how you have to work a 12 hour day, and boo hoo for you, while many of US had to deal with 16 hours a day, sometimes less if some insurgent decided to lob a few RBG's. Yep you liberals really know US quite well, and because of US, you can sit in your cushy job worrying that you might get splinter and then get 30 days off for disability. Don't mess with REAL MEN bub, since we have been at war, with those who wish to kill US, I will get down and dirty and throw insults right back at your liberal sorry ass.

Woah. That's a bit harsh. This gentleman is 72 yrs old and still working 12 hr shifts in a steel mill. And you don't know what he's done before in his life. I don't expect he was referring to men who have served or are serving (bless you, btw) as the ones crying over paper cuts, either. Just sayin'.

Then he shouldn't cast a stone in a glass house? What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. He wants to compare US to sissies, without knowing what we did before. I served my country proudly , am a REAL man, and wont take shit from a liberal. They have ruined this great country, and then try to blame US for their screw up. This is another reason why Trump(a real man) will be the next president.

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So a real man is a real idiot and blames his problems on a select few..What a maroon...

No a sissy pansy ass white black man is a real idiot who blames his problems for the past 7 1/2 years of failure on everyone but himself. Didn't take the liberal bitch long to show up when his/her/its president is pointed out as a little whiny bitch that he/she/its is.

 

[Compost]

There has been a war on men for quite some time. We have gone from "Father Knows Best" to "The Simpsons." The reason, in my opinion, is that woman can't be made stronger so in order to have equality men must be made weaker.

Doesn't help that if a man asserts his masculinity they are condemned as being a caveman.

I think you are right. Sad, isn't it? The price of "equality" as morphed many men into wimps.

not trolling, just a serious question

So do you consider this manly?

Is this a manly example?

You can always count on a liberal to be a Bigot. They hate anyone who is happy with their religion.

They are well paid for their wearing of costumes and passion plays..

Catholic clergy have very little of their own in the way of possesions. They serve the Church and take a vow of poverty. Typically, someone volunteers their time and skill to sew the vestments.

 

[there4eyeM]

A real man doesn't say, "I'm a real man". Knowing it is more than enough; saying it casts doubt.

 

[Tilly]

I expect the following has an impact, particularly for boys growing up without a constant male role model:

....Start paying attention to how men are portrayed in the media. In particular, pay attention to how they are portrayed in our commercials. Our boys and young men are exposed to thousands upon thousands of hours of this "programming", and it has a dramatic affect on them.

Our system beats up our boys and young men so badly that only a relatively small percentage of them emerge into adulthood as strong, independent young men that are able to take care of themselves and start families of their own.

In America today, the percentage of men in prison is at an all-time high, the percentage of men with a job is near an all-time low and the percentage of children living without a father is at an all-time high....

32 Facts That Show How Men Are Being Systematically Emasculated In America Today | Zero Hedge