Marco Rubio: Medicare, Social Security ‘Weakened Us As People,’ Made Us Lazy

[Ravi]

I guess our liberal immigration policies weakened us, too?



Are his parents collecting SS or Medicare?

I find it hard to believe he's from Florida.

Why? We have an overabundance of Republicans that spit on the very things that let them succeed in life. As long as he spits he'll be their hero.

 

[Ravi]

I guess our liberal immigration policies weakened us, too?



Are his parents collecting SS or Medicare?

Yes... they do.


Those liberal policies let illegals run amuck!

Yeah, well he benefited from them.

 

[Lakhota]

Floridians seem unfairly cursed with Republican assholes: Governor Rick Scott, Congressman Allen West, and Senator Marco Rubio. I'll be curious to see if these clowns are reelected.

 

[dcbl]

I guess Rubio plans to support his parents, including paying their medical expenses.

the good news??

if YOU work really hard AND invest your money, you'll be able to support your parents as well!

Um..no.

Thanks for playing.

um yes

but ya couldn't know unless ya tried it...

thank YOU for playing

 

[The Infidel]

I guess our liberal immigration policies weakened us, too?



Are his parents collecting SS or Medicare?

Yes... they do.


Those liberal policies let illegals run amuck!

Yeah, well he benefited from them.

How....? They did it legally.


His parents actually know what socialism and comunism bring. I know folks who came here from Cuba and they dont like what they see going on in DC.

 

[Sallow]

the good news??

if YOU work really hard AND invest your money, you'll be able to support your parents as well!

Um..no.

Thanks for playing.

um yes

but ya couldn't know unless ya tried it...

thank YOU for playing

There was no real middle class in this country until after 1950. Crack open a history book.

It's a true story.

 

[Ravi]

Yes... they do.


Those liberal policies let illegals run amuck!

Yeah, well he benefited from them.

How....? They did it legally.


His parents actually know what socialism and comunism bring. I know folks who came here from Cuba and they dont like what they see going on in DC.

I didn't say they did it illegally. I said they benefited from liberal immigration policies, as did he.

 

[ladyliberal]

The substance of Senator Rubio's has nothing to do with the solvency of entitlement programs. Rather, he objects to the government rather than private citizens caring for the elderly. His argument is that if people know the government will take care of the elderly they will not, and that therefore the people are weakened because they are ceding to the government their traditional role. I disagree:

1) Social Security greatly reduces senior poverty. That strengthens us as a people. Social Security wasn't implemented arbitrarily-- it was implemented because communities weren't doing enough to care for the elderly.

2) With Social Security now well established, people still believe that it is their job to care for elderly parents. If an elderly parent needs help, no one tells them to call their Social Security office.

 

[Sallow]

Yes... they do.


Those liberal policies let illegals run amuck!

Yeah, well he benefited from them.

How....? They did it legally.


His parents actually know what socialism and comunism bring. I know folks who came here from Cuba and they dont like what they see going on in DC.

Did what legally?

Cubans have a weird relationship with this country. If you come from Cuba "illegally" and make it to shore..you are in. Simple as that.

By the way..I am 1/4 Cuban..and my Grandfather was pretty good friends with Batista.

 

[McDowell's]

Rubio is a typical Republican asshole...

Actually, Rubio is a typical conservative ideologue. As I’ve mentioned in other threads, this is classic rightist dogma – ‘social programs’ make us ‘weak,’ act as a ‘disincentive.’ It’s predicated on the fallacy of Social Darwinism and the belief that humans are motivated only by fear and greed.

...or maybe it's predicated on the belief that human beings are generally rational and when it comes to retirement planning they incorporate social security into their expected benefits. If you have someone subsidizing your retirement income, then you don't need to make as much or save as much money as you would otherwise. It's called common sense to most people.

 

[Ravi]

The substance of Senator Rubio's has nothing to do with the solvency of entitlement programs. Rather, he objects to the government rather than private citizens caring for the elderly. His argument is that if people know the government will take care of the elderly they will not, and that therefore the people are weakened because they are ceding to the government their traditional role. I disagree:

1) Social Security greatly reduces senior poverty. That strengthens us as a people. Social Security wasn't implemented arbitrarily-- it was implemented because communities weren't doing enough to care for the elderly.

2) With Social Security now well established, people still believe that it is their job to care for elderly parents. If an elderly parent needs help, no one tells them to call their Social Security office.

Someone should ask him the question. Do his parents, or did they, benefit from SS or Medicare? Or has he personally cared for them in their old age?

 

[dcbl]

Um..no.

Thanks for playing.

um yes

but ya couldn't know unless ya tried it...

thank YOU for playing

There was no real middle class in this country until after 1950. Crack open a history book.

It's a true story.

you mean back before the federal gub-mint had turned the income tax into a tool that prevents working Americans from getting a leg up & getting ahead?

Good point!

 

[shintao]

The substance of Senator Rubio's has nothing to do with the solvency of entitlement programs. Rather, he objects to the government rather than private citizens caring for the elderly. His argument is that if people know the government will take care of the elderly they will not, and that therefore the people are weakened because they are ceding to the government their traditional role. I disagree:

1) Social Security greatly reduces senior poverty. That strengthens us as a people. Social Security wasn't implemented arbitrarily-- it was implemented because communities weren't doing enough to care for the elderly.

2) With Social Security now well established, people still believe that it is their job to care for elderly parents. If an elderly parent needs help, no one tells them to call their Social Security office.

Someone should ask him the question. Do his parents, or did they, benefit from SS or Medicare? Or has he personally cared for them in their old age?

The LAZY welfare bum is paid $174,000. witha COLA from taxpayers, plus SS and health benefits, and his average retirement pension is $35,952.00 a year, all paid for by the taxpayers. The LAZY bum. (wiki) If he wants to return to the golden age, cut his pay to $6. a day, and no retirement or health benefits or pension.

LEAD BY EXAMPLE Mr. Rubio!!!

 

[shintao]

Rubio is a typical Republican asshole...

Actually, Rubio is a typical conservative ideologue. As I’ve mentioned in other threads, this is classic rightist dogma – ‘social programs’ make us ‘weak,’ act as a ‘disincentive.’ It’s predicated on the fallacy of Social Darwinism and the belief that humans are motivated only by fear and greed.

...or maybe it's predicated on the belief that human beings are generally rational and when it comes to retirement planning they incorporate social security into their expected benefits. If you have someone subsidizing your retirement income, then you don't need to make as much or save as much money as you would otherwise. It's called common sense to most people.

So Americans are not only lazy, they are also stupid to be using failed capitalism.

 

[dcbl]

Actually, Rubio is a typical conservative ideologue. As I’ve mentioned in other threads, this is classic rightist dogma – ‘social programs’ make us ‘weak,’ act as a ‘disincentive.’ It’s predicated on the fallacy of Social Darwinism and the belief that humans are motivated only by fear and greed.

...or maybe it's predicated on the belief that human beings are generally rational and when it comes to retirement planning they incorporate social security into their expected benefits. If you have someone subsidizing your retirement income, then you don't need to make as much or save as much money as you would otherwise. It's called common sense to most people.

So Americans are not only lazy, they are also stupid to be using failed capitalism.

right.

since socialism, communism & wealth distribution have worked out sooooo well everywhere they have been tried...

 

[Lakhota]

Douglas McGregor - Theory X and Y

Theory X and Theory Y

Republicans are definitely Theory X types.

 

[McDowell's]

Actually, Rubio is a typical conservative ideologue. As I’ve mentioned in other threads, this is classic rightist dogma – ‘social programs’ make us ‘weak,’ act as a ‘disincentive.’ It’s predicated on the fallacy of Social Darwinism and the belief that humans are motivated only by fear and greed.

...or maybe it's predicated on the belief that human beings are generally rational and when it comes to retirement planning they incorporate social security into their expected benefits. If you have someone subsidizing your retirement income, then you don't need to make as much or save as much money as you would otherwise. It's called common sense to most people.

So Americans are not only lazy, they are also stupid to be using failed capitalism.

Do you want to actually address what I said? I never mentioned anything about laziness or 'failed capitalism'. But you like to infer unrelated, unintended meaning in order to obfuscate, so I'm not suprised to get a response like that from you.

 

[shintao]

...or maybe it's predicated on the belief that human beings are generally rational and when it comes to retirement planning they incorporate social security into their expected benefits. If you have someone subsidizing your retirement income, then you don't need to make as much or save as much money as you would otherwise. It's called common sense to most people.

So Americans are not only lazy, they are also stupid to be using failed capitalism.

right.

since socialism, communism & wealth distribution have worked out sooooo well everywhere they have been tried...

Yea, that is why you are able to borrow & spend a trillion of Communist money. And where has your failed capitalism succeeded? India? LMAO!! It failed in Venezuela & Russia of late, so check your own track record dude,,,,,,, You keep getting your faced buttered here over Germany & the EURO states as well. Where is your 100% health care? Full wage retirement benefits? Since capitalism has worked soooooooooo goooooood, I am sure you can show us. The USD is a joke. Even Iraq is on the Euro dollar.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

SocSecurity is broke and Medicare ended house calls and spiraled costs out of control just like it was supposed to

How in the hell can Social Security be broke when it currently has a $2.5 trillion surplus?

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it" Barack "Social Security Really is Bankrupt" Obama, the Downgraded President

 

[CrusaderFrank]

SocSecurity is broke and Medicare ended house calls and spiraled costs out of control just like it was supposed to

How in the hell can Social Security be broke when it currently has a $2.5 trillion surplus?

Don't bother. You'll just get more BS.

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it" Barack "Social Security Really is Bankrupt" Obama, the Downgraded President