March 6, 2008 at 17:24:219/11 TRUTH Issues EXPLODE onto CBS National Radio Yesterday

[eots]

9/11 Truth (& False Flag Terror) FINALLY on CBS NATIONAL Radio - Jim Bohannan Show !!

STUNNING National CBS Radio Interview!



Bohannan is a right wing pro-military radio voice, who's audience has probably NEVER been exposed to 9/11 truth issues. "The Shell Game" author, Steve Alten, came on after an Oil Executive's interview, at about 39:50 in the 1.5 hour show. At about 54:56 it gets REALLY interesting when a caller calls in to discuss 9/11 as a false flag attack. Which unleashes Alten into a deep discussion of 9/11 truth issues.


All hell brakes loose in the next few minutes, as Alten enters the realms of 9/11 truth, explaining to the stunned Bohanan and and his virgin (9/11 truth issue) audience that there is a mass 9/11 truth movement in America that involves engineers, police, private investigators, and many other experts challenging the official 9/11 story.


Alten gives Bohannan some rope at the beginning, before he yanks it to give Bohannan's virgin audience some powerful new issues to chew on. Alten takes on the BIG OIL guest (and big energy's lies) that preceded him on the show, as well as the rational for war in Iraq, BUT spends most of his time TAKING ON THE 9/11 COVER UP, War Games, Evidence Destruction at the WTC, and WTC BUILDING 7's MYSTERIOUS and UNINVESTIGATED COLLAPSE!


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bill_dou_080306_9_2f11_truth_issues_ex.htm

 

[Taomon]

9/11 Truth (& False Flag Terror) FINALLY on CBS NATIONAL Radio - Jim Bohannan Show !!

STUNNING National CBS Radio Interview!



Bohannan is a right wing pro-military radio voice, who's audience has probably NEVER been exposed to 9/11 truth issues. "The Shell Game" author, Steve Alten, came on after an Oil Executive's interview, at about 39:50 in the 1.5 hour show. At about 54:56 it gets REALLY interesting when a caller calls in to discuss 9/11 as a false flag attack. Which unleashes Alten into a deep discussion of 9/11 truth issues.


All hell brakes loose in the next few minutes, as Alten enters the realms of 9/11 truth, explaining to the stunned Bohanan and and his virgin (9/11 truth issue) audience that there is a mass 9/11 truth movement in America that involves engineers, police, private investigators, and many other experts challenging the official 9/11 story.


Alten gives Bohannan some rope at the beginning, before he yanks it to give Bohannan's virgin audience some powerful new issues to chew on. Alten takes on the BIG OIL guest (and big energy's lies) that preceded him on the show, as well as the rational for war in Iraq, BUT spends most of his time TAKING ON THE 9/11 COVER UP, War Games, Evidence Destruction at the WTC, and WTC BUILDING 7's MYSTERIOUS and UNINVESTIGATED COLLAPSE!


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bill_dou_080306_9_2f11_truth_issues_ex.htm

So basically, the only way a discussion like that will make it onto a media source is when it is live and the speaker does not let censors know in advance.

I find that shameful. It should be news and it should be covered.

If 9/11 is not a cover-up, then release classified documents pertaining to it, allow investigative reporting and put it to rest. The American public, by large, does not buy the official report nor do we believe the dogs that bark it down every time it is brought up.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So basically, the only way a discussion like that will make it onto a media source is when it is live and the speaker does not let censors know in advance.

I find that shameful. It should be news and it should be covered.

If 9/11 is not a cover-up, then release classified documents pertaining to it, allow investigative reporting and put it to rest. The American public, by large, does not buy the official report nor do we believe the dogs that bark it down every time it is brought up.

LOL, yup the thousands of people required to have made this a "false flag" operation have all been murdered or remained silent for almost 7 years now. These nutters can not even answer basic question. Where did the planes go from Washington and Pennsylvania? Where are the passengers and crew? Where did the aircraft land? Who hijacked all 4 air craft and why did 2 sets of hijackers agree to commit suicide for the US Government? How were the buildings prepared for demolition with out anyone seeing it? How were the explosives laid on several floors without anyone noticing the required packages, wiring and runs needed to coordinate those explosives? How did people keep working in buildings weakened by extensive demolition to pillars and columns need to bring the buildings down in a controlled explosion? How did the buildings survive the impact of the air craft if those columns had been weakened? The one I really like is how did people in the basement of these buildings know the exact instant the planes hit so as to know that explosives occurred before or after the plane strikes?

Anyone with a brain can see the mass of idiotic claims by the nutters is just that idiotic. I really enjoy the two completely opposite stories EOTS has told about the reason he knows no plane struck the Pentagon. In the first one there is no plane debris in the second there is LOADS of plane debris, just all from the wrong type aircraft and airline. Come on, which is it? Can not be both.

Then there are the two completely opposite stories about Pennsylvania, in one the US shots down the aircraft in the other no aircraft ever crashed. All ignoring the phone calls and personal testimony of family members of people ON the aircraft, plus the black boxes.

Do a little research on the "quotes" EOTS provides, you will find the vast majority of those people DO NOT support nor claim a Government "false flag" operation. The quotes are cherry picked to give that impression.

 

[Taomon]

LOL, yup the thousands of people required to have made this a "false flag" operation have all been murdered or remained silent for almost 7 years now. These nutters can not even answer basic question. Where did the planes go from Washington and Pennsylvania? Where are the passengers and crew? Where did the aircraft land? Who hijacked all 4 air craft and why did 2 sets of hijackers agree to commit suicide for the US Government? How were the buildings prepared for demolition with out anyone seeing it? How were the explosives laid on several floors without anyone noticing the required packages, wiring and runs needed to coordinate those explosives? How did people keep working in buildings weakened by extensive demolition to pillars and columns need to bring the buildings down in a controlled explosion? How did the buildings survive the impact of the air craft if those columns had been weakened? The one I really like is how did people in the basement of these buildings know the exact instant the planes hit so as to know that explosives occurred before or after the plane strikes?

Anyone with a brain can see the mass of idiotic claims by the nutters is just that idiotic. I really enjoy the two completely opposite stories EOTS has told about the reason he knows no plane struck the Pentagon. In the first one there is no plane debris in the second there is LOADS of plane debris, just all from the wrong type aircraft and airline. Come on, which is it? Can not be both.

Then there are the two completely opposite stories about Pennsylvania, in one the US shots down the aircraft in the other no aircraft ever crashed. All ignoring the phone calls and personal testimony of family members of people ON the aircraft, plus the black boxes.

Do a little research on the "quotes" EOTS provides, you will find the vast majority of those people DO NOT support nor claim a Government "false flag" operation. The quotes are cherry picked to give that impression.

Actually, there is a growing constituency that believes that we do not have all of the facts about 9/11, that Bush and his administration is culpable, and that certainly our nation has taken a turn towards fascism as a result.

 

[Paulie]

Actually, there is a growing constituency that believes that we do not have all of the facts about 9/11, that Bush and his administration is culpable, and that certainly our nation has taken a turn towards fascism as a result.

I'll definitely get behind at least THAT.

How could anyone NOT?

 

[eots]

RetiredGySgt;655608]LOL, yup the thousands of people required to have made this a "false flag" operation have all been murdered or remained silent for almost 7 years now.

this is just your made up number you have no idea how many people it would take..and repeatedly ignore the fact that there are people with impressive creditals claiming direct knowledge and are willing to testify

These nutters can not even answer basic question. Where did the planes go from Washington and Pennsylvania? Where are the passengers and crew? Where did the aircraft land? Who hijacked all 4 air craft

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release the cockpit recordings and black boxes and we will know ...so why don't they?

why did 2 sets of hijackers agree to commit suicide for the US Government? How were the buildings prepared for demolition with out anyone seeing it? How were the explosives laid on several floors without anyone noticing the required packages, wiring and runs needed to coordinate those explosives? How did people keep working in buildings weakened by extensive demolition to pillars and columns need to bring the buildings down in a controlled explosion? How did the buildings survive the impact of the air craft if those columns had been weakened? The one I really like is how did people in the basement of these buildings know the exact instant the planes hit so as to know that explosives occurred before or after the plane strikes?

a lot of assumptions..a bigger question is why do so many with vast knowledge of physics and structures see it so differently like how can a building fall at free fall...how can a carbon based fire melt metal..etc etc

Anyone with a brain can see the mass of idiotic claims by the nutters is just that idiotic. I really enjoy the two completely opposite stories EOTS has told about the reason he knows no plane struck the Pentagon. In the first one there is no plane debris in the second there is LOADS of plane debris, just all from the wrong type aircraft and airline. Come on, which is it? Can not be both.

i never made any claims ..i reported the claims of wittinesses and pointed out
the statements in context makes it clear from several sources that by no debris ..it was meant as a inappropriate amount to be a passenger plane IE; no luggage no miles of wire no visible bodies..eyewittness top gun fighter pilots words not mine




Then there are the two completely opposite stories about Pennsylvania, in one the US shots down the aircraft in the other no aircraft ever crashed. All ignoring the phone calls and personal testimony of family members of people ON the aircraft, plus the black boxes.

no cockpit recordings released..no black box info released..no serial numbers on black boxes reported to be found

Do a little research on the "quotes" EOTS provides, you will find the vast majority of those people DO NOT support nor claim a Government "false flag" operation. The quotes are cherry picked to give that impression.[/

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this is a completely false claim..please do research i have repeatedly asked for even one example of this ..but it is never provided the false claim is simply repeated..yes please do a little research..the statements are very clear and precise and documented

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

 

[RetiredGySgt]

LOL, yes PLEASE do research the actual words, all of them, of the people EOTS quotes, You will be suprised by what he does not provide. Further he claims a "vast" number of educated people make claims. Yet he can not provide a single person with a degree in the field that supports the claims made about the twin towers or building 7. Not one that actually says what he claims that actually can be found to exist by a google search.

The only one he does provide that we can prove exists does not claim what he says. He disagrees just in small detail with the Government position. Well unles you just cherry pick his statement.

DO the research like EOTS asks. FIND the actual statements he quotes and READ ALL of what those people say. Not just the small sound bytes he provides.

Further do not confuse the fact the Government may have not told us EVERY thing they know with his claim the Government did it. And do not equate that people think there might be more information available with the concept that means the Government did it. Again read the sources he provides in their entirety not just the small pieces he wants you to see.

As to numbers for a "false flag" operation? You would need 4 hijack teams, you would need construct teams for at least 3 buildings. You would need a goodly portion of the security force of those 3 buildings to be in on the plan as well as the Mayor and parts of his Staff. You would need Officers and enlisted in the US Airforce and Air National Guard in on the plan, every pilot and air crew on duty that day. All of the air traffic controllers on the Northern Eastern Coast. You would need a crew to fire the "missile" that hit the Pentagon. You would need a large number of security forces ( secret service and FBI) to rush out even before the missile was fired to "seize" all the tapes seconds and minutes, as he has claimed, after the attack. You would need a large, nearly complete coperation of every investigator in all locations, New York, Pennsylvania, Washington DC and the Airports where the planes took off to be in on the plan. You would need a secure airfield with staff and security and air crew to receive the planes that did not "crash", you would need some people to either hold all these people from those planes and to murder them and dispose of the bodies and air craft. You would need the cooperation of a lrage part of the Presidents staff involved and or the Vice Presidents staff.

Those are just the easy to identify people you would need to run a false flag operation like this. I have missed a lot of support and others that would need to be in on the plan.

Could the Government know more than it is telling us, sure could. Does that even come close to equaling they planned or aided in the plan to carry out the attacks? Not a shred of a chance in hell.

 

[eots]

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QUOTE=RetiredGySgt;655727]LOL, yes PLEASE do research the actual words, all of them, of the people EOTS quotes, You will be suprised by what he does not provide. Further he claims a "vast" number of educated people make claims. Yet he can not provide a single person with a degree in the field that supports the claims made about the twin towers or building 7. Not one that actually says what he claims that actually can be found to exist by a google search.

did you ever think that its because your inept?

The only one he does provide that we can prove exists does not claim what he says. He disagrees just in small detail with the Government position. Well unles you just cherry pick his statement

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whats this we shit and can you ever be specific who cant you find ?
or verifie..and are you suggesting a site like patriots question 911 could post top level government and military personal with quotes and petitions they are signatory's to and its just a fake site that has remained up for years without question or challenge from anyone thats a real conspiracy theory

DO the research like EOTS asks. FIND the actual statements he quotes and READ ALL of what those people say. Not just the small sound bytes he provides.

defiantly do it it is pretty hard to misinterpret their very bold statements

i have no idea what this man is talking about he has clearly never read it himself

Further do not confuse the fact the Government may have not told us EVERY thing they know with his claim the Government did it. And do not equate that people think there might be more information available with the concept that means the Government did it. Again read the sources he provides in their entirety not just the small pieces he wants you to see.

it would be great if you supplied a single example to back your crazy allegations

As to numbers for a "false flag" operation? You would need 4 hijack teams, you would need construct teams for at least 3 buildings. You would need a goodly portion of the security force of those 3 buildings to be in on the plan as well as the Mayor and parts of his Staff. You would need Officers and enlisted in the US Airforce and Air National Guard in on the plan, every pilot and air crew on duty that day. All of the air traffic controllers on the Northern Eastern Coast. You would need a crew to fire the "missile" that hit the Pentagon. You would need a large number of security forces ( secret service and FBI) to rush out even before the missile was fired to "seize" all the tapes seconds and minutes, as he has claimed, after the attack. You would need a large, nearly complete coperation of every investigator in all locations, New York, Pennsylvania, Washington DC and the Airports where the planes took off to be in on the plan. You would need a secure airfield with staff and security and air crew to receive the planes that did not "crash", you would need some people to either hold all these people from those planes and to murder them and dispose of the bodies and air craft. You would need the cooperation of a lrage part of the Presidents staff involved and or the Vice Presidents staff.

there are top level Intel, CIA ,FBI counter terrorism experts that completely disagree with your ASSUMTIONS..and state very clearly...inside job
i believe their expertise in these areas to be far greater than yours

Those are just the easy to identify people you would need to run a false flag operation like this. I have missed a lot of support and others that would need to be in on the plan

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coming from someone with zero knowledge of Intel and black ops

Could the Government know more than it is telling us, sure could. Does that even come close to equaling they planned or aided in the plan to carry out the attacks? Not a shred of a chance in hell

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think again...

 

[Lookout]

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did you ever think that its because your inept?






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whats this we shit and can you ever be specific who cant you find ?
or verifie..and are you suggesting a site like patriots question 911 could post top level government and military personal with quotes and petitions they are signatory's to and its just a fake site that has remained up for years without question or challenge from anyone thats a real conspiracy theory





defiantly do it it is pretty hard to misinterpret their very bold statements

i have no idea what this man is talking about he has clearly never read it himself




it would be great if you supplied a single example to back your crazy allegations







there are top level Intel, CIA ,FBI counter terrorism experts that completely disagree with your ASSUMTIONS..and state very clearly...inside job
i believe their expertise in these areas to be far greater than yours




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coming from someone with zero knowledge of Intel and black ops

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think again...[/QUOTE]

He is too LAZY to go and do actual research for himself. He wants you to supply all the research material so he can fine comb it and complain and bitch and whine and poke holes in anything you bring to him...He is the Devils butt paste!

The reason why people like us are convinced is because we have done hours and hours of research into history, law, physics, etc,etc,etc. We have compiled the list of believers and the evidence and taken a real hard look at all those involved that made it happen. All the puzzle pieces fit so perfectly into the puzzle, you couldn't ask for a tighter fit.

It is NOT OUR JOB to convince you of the truth. Stay ignorant and die a dumbass I could care less. You are not worth spending and wasting anymore effort or time on. There are those who want to know and help and be part of and those who just want to be a road block like a big fat donut computer in the middle of the freeway, and to you I say good riddence and farewell, or fare however you wish. In the time I have stopped trying to convince you about the TRUTH, I have presented the material to 5 other people who have looked it over and accepted it and are on board. That is the purpose of a MOVEMENT...get all the ones you can get to see and care and join and leave all the dead weight donut suckers in the dust behind to be swallowed by the big machine. At some point, as we are walking or running away from certain areas, we will be able to hear the screams of those who took your side and didn't believe it...in the distance at that time I will bow my head and shake it a few times then look up and begin moving foreward once again and bust out laughing with the comment...STUPID FUCKING SHEEPLE!!!!

 

[jillian]

No... you're convinced because you want to be convinced and find others who equally want to be convinced...and you feed off of each others' little conspiracy theories.

You'd be better off understanding the actual problems that exist and addressing them.

 

[eots]

No... you're convinced because you want to be convinced and find others who equally want to be convinced...and you feed off of each others' little conspiracy theories.

You'd be better off understanding the actual problems that exist and addressing them.

so you honestly belive these men are convinced because they want to be
and are feeding off each others little conspiracy theorys ... does this seem sound ?


Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."
... I implore my fellow physicists and engineers who may have the time, expertise, and (ideally) supercomputer access to get to work on the physics of the World Trade Center collapses and publish their findings in refereed journals like, say, the Journal of Applied Physics.

The issue of knowing who was really behind the 9/11 attacks is of paramount importance to the future of our country, because the "official" assumption that it was the work of 19 Arab amateurs (1) does not match the available facts and (2) has led directly to the deplorable Patriot Act, the illegal Iraq war, NSA spying on ordinary Americans, repudiation of the Geneva Conventions, and the repeal of habeas corpus (a fundamental point of law that has been with us since the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215).

Surely these Orwellian consequences of public ignorance constitute more than sufficient motivation for any patriotic American physicist or engineer to join the search for 9/11 Truth!" http://impactglassman


Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Bio: http://www.impactglassresearchinternational.com/index.html


Dwain Deets, MS Eng

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." http://www.ae911truth.org


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 280 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov





William Christison – Former National Intelligence Officer and Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis. 29-year CIA veteran.

Endorsement of Debunking 9/11 Debunking 3/30/07: "David Ray Griffin’s Debunking 9/11 Debunking is a superb compendium of the strong body of evidence showing the official U.S. Government story of what happened on September 11, 2001 to be almost certainly a monstrous series of lies. Tragically, the entire course of U.S. foreign and domestic policies since that date has grown out of these almost certain falsehoods. This single book could (and should) provide the basis for the United Nations‚ International Court of Justice, or some specially constituted global body (independent of the U.S.) to investigate with highest priority, and publicly report its findings about, the charge that unknown elements within the U.S. Government, and possibly some individuals elsewhere closely allied to the U.S., caused or contributed to causing the events of September 11 to happen." http://www.amazon.com?tag=usmb-20


Essay Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11 8/14/06: "I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. … An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. … The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them." http://www.dissidentvoice.org


Article 9/7/06: "David Griffin believes this all was totally an inside job - I've got to say I think that it was too. … I have since decided that....at least some elements in this US government had contributed in some way or other to causing 9/11 to happen or at least allowing it to happen. … The reason that the two towers in New York actually collapsed and fell all the way to the ground was controlled explosions rather than just being hit by two airplanes. … All of the characteristics of these demolitions show that they almost had to have been controlled explosions." http://www.prisonplanet.com


Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."


Audio interview 9/29/06: "We very seriously need an entirely new very high level and truly independent investigation of the events of 9/11. I think you almost have to look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a joke and not a serious piece of analysis at all. It gave the administration what it wanted to support their official story on what happened on the date of September 11 and that's all they cared about. ... It's a monstrous crime. Absolutely a monstrous crime." http://www.electricpolitics.com


Bio: http://www.amalpress.com/

think about ..i mean really think about it... and rgs if you cant google these gentlmen..or you think what they said is not what they said then there is no hope for you

 

[Taomon]

No... you're convinced because you want to be convinced and find others who equally want to be convinced...and you feed off of each others' little conspiracy theories.

You'd be better off understanding the actual problems that exist and addressing them.

One of those issues that we need to address is what causes terrorism. We know clerics use the Koran and money to influence very poor and desperate people to commit atrocities.

But what causes those people to throw away reason and compassion? Culturally, martyrdom is held in high esteem to Muslims, which we do not completely understand...and that causes a barrier.

Secondly, Muslims do not America because of our morals, they do not hate Americans in general...they hate our policies. Our policies destroy lives.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

One of those issues that we need to address is what causes terrorism. We know clerics use the Koran and money to influence very poor and desperate people to commit atrocities.

But what causes those people to throw away reason and compassion? Culturally, martyrdom is held in high esteem to Muslims, which we do not completely understand...and that causes a barrier.

Secondly, Muslims do not America because of our morals, they do not hate Americans in general...they hate our policies. Our policies destroy lives.

Yes we should cow tow to 12th century morals and codes of conduct because if we do ot they will kill us. Aren't you arguing against religion running this country in other threads?

 

[Bern80]

He is too LAZY to go and do actual research for himself. He wants you to supply all the research material so he can fine comb it and complain and bitch and whine and poke holes in anything you bring to him...He is the Devils butt paste!

The reason why people like us are convinced is because we have done hours and hours of research into history, law, physics, etc,etc,etc. We have compiled the list of believers and the evidence and taken a real hard look at all those involved that made it happen. All the puzzle pieces fit so perfectly into the puzzle, you couldn't ask for a tighter fit.

It is NOT OUR JOB to convince you of the truth. Stay ignorant and die a dumbass I could care less. You are not worth spending and wasting anymore effort or time on. There are those who want to know and help and be part of and those who just want to be a road block like a big fat donut computer in the middle of the freeway, and to you I say good riddence and farewell, or fare however you wish. In the time I have stopped trying to convince you about the TRUTH, I have presented the material to 5 other people who have looked it over and accepted it and are on board. That is the purpose of a MOVEMENT...get all the ones you can get to see and care and join and leave all the dead weight donut suckers in the dust behind to be swallowed by the big machine. At some point, as we are walking or running away from certain areas, we will be able to hear the screams of those who took your side and didn't believe it...in the distance at that time I will bow my head and shake it a few times then look up and begin moving foreward once again and bust out laughing with the comment...STUPID FUCKING SHEEPLE!!!!

No the reason people like and eots are convinced is because of mindset that was in place well before 9/11. You aren't any less of a sheep than anyone else who believes what fits into his agenda and doesn't believe what doesn't

 

[hjmick]

Do you know why there is no 9/11 cover up? No governmental conspiracy in the events of that day? Do you know why we all know that the government had nothing to do with the events of that day? Not because the number of people who would have been involved would have inherently led to a leak. Not because it as been proven time and again that this administration finds it damn near impossible to keep a secret. Not because this administration seems to reach new heights of incompetence at each turn. No, none of these reasons. The proof is simple. The reason is this: If the government had been involved in the heinous murder of nearly 3,000 American people, on national television, in this day and age when any and all information is available instantaneously, 24 hours a day, do you think for one second they would hesitate to silence or eliminate any one of these 9/11 truthers? Really? If it was so easy for the government to murder 3,000 of it's own citizens, then the 9/11 conspiracy nutters are nothing more than a gnat on the ass of a gazelle to them and easily dispatched.

 

[Taomon]

Yes we should cow tow to 12th century morals and codes of conduct because if we do ot they will kill us. Aren't you arguing against religion running this country in other threads?

You are trying to put words into my mouth. No RGS, we need to change our foreign policies. First and foremost, we should eliminate our reliance on oil & natural gas.

It is time to stop stepping on the necks of the poor in the world to secure profit & resources. It is spelling out our inevitable doom.

In case you did not realize it, we are a rogue state. Our empirialism makes us the largest terrorist state in the world. How long do you suppose that will last?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You are trying to put words into my mouth. No RGS, we need to change our foreign policies. First and foremost, we should eliminate our reliance on oil & natural gas.

It is time to stop stepping on the necks of the poor in the world to secure profit & resources. It is spelling out our inevitable doom.

In case you did not realize it, we are a rogue state. Our empirialism makes us the largest terrorist state in the world. How long do you suppose that will last?

Sure thing. I suggest you get out before the "world" attacks us.

 

[eots]

Do you know why there is no 9/11 cover up? No governmental conspiracy in the events of that day? Do you know why we all know that the government had nothing to do with the events of that day? Not because the number of people who would have been involved would have inherently led to a leak. Not because it as been proven time and again that this administration finds it damn near impossible to keep a secret. Not because this administration seems to reach new heights of incompetence at each turn. No, none of these reasons. The proof is simple. The reason is this: If the government had been involved in the heinous murder of nearly 3,000 American people, on national television, in this day and age when any and all information is available instantaneously, 24 hours a day, do you think for one second they would hesitate to silence or eliminate any one of these 9/11 truthers? Really? If it was so easy for the government to murder 3,000 of it's own citizens, then the 9/11 conspiracy nutters are nothing more than a gnat on the ass of a gazelle to them and easily dispatched.

this is the stupidest logic i have ever heard...ya they are going to one by one start to murder hundreds top level military and Intel and if they did then guys like you might catch on ...best to leave them alone so morons like you can conclude..its not true because your alive....what a idiot

 

[hjmick]

this is the stupidest logic i have ever heard...ya they are going to one by one start to murder hundreds top level military and Intel and if they did then guys like you might catch on ...best to leave them alone so morons like you can conclude..its not true because your alive....what a idiot

Ah yes, the personal insult. The last refuge of a weak and defenseless intellect. It seems as if you failed to recognize the humor of my post, eots, and I thought it was too obvious. But I suppose that's just the way it sometimes goes.

 

[eots]

Ah yes, the personal insult. The last refuge of a weak and defenseless intellect. It seems as if you failed to recognize the humor of my post, eots, and I thought it was too obvious. But I suppose that's just the way it sometimes goes.

your the one who likes to refer to top level Intel and military patriots with PhDs, purple hearts and bronze stars as nutters..so that makes calling you a idiot a matter of fact not a insult...