Many in government are worried about Trump’s return. At DOJ, they’re terrified.

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Many in government are worried about Trump’s return. At DOJ, they’re terrified.

Trump blames DOJ for much of his torment over the past four years. Lawyers there fear what’s next.
10 Nov 2024 ~~ By Josh Gerstein

A collective sense of dread has taken hold at the Department of Justice, which drew Donald Trump’s rage like no other part of the federal government during his campaign.
Some career attorneys at DOJ are already considering heading for the exits rather than sticking around to find out whether threats from Trump and his allies are real or campaign bluster. Those threats range from mass firings of “deep state” lawyers to expelling special counsel Jack Smith from the country.
“Everyone I’ve talked to, mostly lawyers, are losing their minds,” said one DOJ attorney, who like most of the people interviewed for this article was granted anonymity to speak freely about colleagues and avoid retribution from the president-elect and his allies. “The fear is that career leadership and career employees everywhere are either going to leave or they’re going to be driven out.” While alarm over Trump’s return is widespread throughout the federal bureaucracy, it is perhaps most acute at the Justice Department, which was at the center of many of the major controversies of his first term.

Most of the department’s 115,000 employees were around for those controversies. Critics believed the Trump White House meddled in some of the department’s high-profile prosecutions. Both of Trump’s attorneys general, Jeff Sessions and William Barr, eventually lost the president’s confidence. And his first term ended with a stunning showdown between Trump and nearly all of his DOJ appointees as they resisted his attempts to cling to power.
But department veterans say those events pale in comparison to what they expect when Trump gets a second chance to try to remake the DOJ in his vision. They also know Trump’s anger at the department has only deepened in the past four years as it launched two unprecedented criminal prosecutions against him.
“Many federal employees are terrified that we’ll be replaced with partisan loyalists — not just because our jobs are on the line, but because we know that our democracy and country depend on a government supported by a merit-based, apolitical civil service,” said Stacey Young, a trial attorney in the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division who won an award from Barr in 2020 and is president and co-founder of the DOJ Gender Equality Network.
It all adds up to a feeling of trepidation for many of the department’s rank and file.
“We’ve all seen this movie before and it’s going to be worse,” said one former DOJ official who served under Trump and several of his predecessors. “It will be worse. It’s just a question of how much worse it’s going to be.”

Commentary:
Machevelli wrote:
"If an injury has to be done to a man, it should be so severe that his vengeance need not to be feared".​
The FBI, DOJ, DHS and IRS allowed Obama to turn them into the Ne-Marxist Democrat secret police and mob lawyers.
They spent years getting dirt on Trump in case he ran for office, and the last eight years failing to bring him down. The entire DNC machine, Hillary's influence, Biden and Obama, cannot cover for them anymore.
Instead of being terrified, they should think about lawyering up and turning state's evidence.
It's not shocking that Politico is expressing the fears of Federal Employees that used their positions to push their political ideologiies in weaponizing their positions on others.
A prime example is the FEMA agent that refused to help families in Florida that had Trump signs on their lawn.
You have to wonder if that happened in North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia?
It's not just employees of FEMA that are fearful, every Federal agency will now be scrutinized and if necessarry purged of the politically biased and DEI employees that have been plced there by Obama and Biden.
They have nothing to fear of if they’ve done nothing wrong.
I'd venture to say that shredders and Bleach-Bit programs in DC are running full blast 24/7, contributing to global warming, since it was confirmed that Trump won the presidential election.
 
We are adults and know the lack of wisdom of a wholesale revenge tour.
We won’t go after everyone but let’s just say the top 10-20% of the witch hunters , impeachers. Russia Russia , liars and cheaters will receive consequences
Try snd be grown up libs and act grateful it’s not higher. If you Dont and continue on your same path then adults will have to put more in the time out big house😁
 
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Many in government are worried about Trump’s return. At DOJ, they’re terrified.

Trump blames DOJ for much of his torment over the past four years. Lawyers there fear what’s next.
10 Nov 2024 ~~ By Josh Gerstein

A collective sense of dread has taken hold at the Department of Justice, which drew Donald Trump’s rage like no other part of the federal government during his campaign.
Some career attorneys at DOJ are already considering heading for the exits rather than sticking around to find out whether threats from Trump and his allies are real or campaign bluster. Those threats range from mass firings of “deep state” lawyers to expelling special counsel Jack Smith from the country.
“Everyone I’ve talked to, mostly lawyers, are losing their minds,” said one DOJ attorney, who like most of the people interviewed for this article was granted anonymity to speak freely about colleagues and avoid retribution from the president-elect and his allies. “The fear is that career leadership and career employees everywhere are either going to leave or they’re going to be driven out.” While alarm over Trump’s return is widespread throughout the federal bureaucracy, it is perhaps most acute at the Justice Department, which was at the center of many of the major controversies of his first term.

Most of the department’s 115,000 employees were around for those controversies. Critics believed the Trump White House meddled in some of the department’s high-profile prosecutions. Both of Trump’s attorneys general, Jeff Sessions and William Barr, eventually lost the president’s confidence. And his first term ended with a stunning showdown between Trump and nearly all of his DOJ appointees as they resisted his attempts to cling to power.
But department veterans say those events pale in comparison to what they expect when Trump gets a second chance to try to remake the DOJ in his vision. They also know Trump’s anger at the department has only deepened in the past four years as it launched two unprecedented criminal prosecutions against him.
“Many federal employees are terrified that we’ll be replaced with partisan loyalists — not just because our jobs are on the line, but because we know that our democracy and country depend on a government supported by a merit-based, apolitical civil service,” said Stacey Young, a trial attorney in the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division who won an award from Barr in 2020 and is president and co-founder of the DOJ Gender Equality Network.
It all adds up to a feeling of trepidation for many of the department’s rank and file.
“We’ve all seen this movie before and it’s going to be worse,” said one former DOJ official who served under Trump and several of his predecessors. “It will be worse. It’s just a question of how much worse it’s going to be.”

Commentary:
Machevelli wrote:
"If an injury has to be done to a man, it should be so severe that his vengeance need not to be feared".​
The FBI, DOJ, DHS and IRS allowed Obama to turn them into the Ne-Marxist Democrat secret police and mob lawyers.
They spent years getting dirt on Trump in case he ran for office, and the last eight years failing to bring him down. The entire DNC machine, Hillary's influence, Biden and Obama, cannot cover for them anymore.
Instead of being terrified, they should think about lawyering up and turning state's evidence.
It's not shocking that Politico is expressing the fears of Federal Employees that used their positions to push their political ideologiies in weaponizing their positions on others.
A prime example is the FEMA agent that refused to help families in Florida that had Trump signs on their lawn.
You have to wonder if that happened in North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia?
It's not just employees of FEMA that are fearful, every Federal agency will now be scrutinized and if necessarry purged of the politically biased and DEI employees that have been plced there by Obama and Biden.
They have nothing to fear of if they’ve done nothing wrong.
I'd venture to say that shredders and Bleach-Bit programs in DC are running full blast 24/7, contributing to global warming, since it was confirmed that Trump won the presidential election.
As well they should be. Anyone of those who can be proven to have broken the law needs to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

Abuse of power needs to be punished to the extreme.
 
"I mean...yeah, we tried to jail you, bankrupt you, remove you from the ballots, and ultimately kill you...twice...but maybe you could give us a second chance? No hard feelings?" harhar
Trump broke the damn law. Trump tried to incite an insurrection. A republican and a Trump voter tried to kill him. Trump is no victim and your acceptance of his authoritarianism is going to come back to bite you.
 

Many in government are worried about Trump’s return. At DOJ, they’re terrified.

Trump blames DOJ for much of his torment over the past four years. Lawyers there fear what’s next.
10 Nov 2024 ~~ By Josh Gerstein

A collective sense of dread has taken hold at the Department of Justice, which drew Donald Trump’s rage like no other part of the federal government during his campaign.
Some career attorneys at DOJ are already considering heading for the exits rather than sticking around to find out whether threats from Trump and his allies are real or campaign bluster. Those threats range from mass firings of “deep state” lawyers to expelling special counsel Jack Smith from the country.
“Everyone I’ve talked to, mostly lawyers, are losing their minds,” said one DOJ attorney, who like most of the people interviewed for this article was granted anonymity to speak freely about colleagues and avoid retribution from the president-elect and his allies. “The fear is that career leadership and career employees everywhere are either going to leave or they’re going to be driven out.” While alarm over Trump’s return is widespread throughout the federal bureaucracy, it is perhaps most acute at the Justice Department, which was at the center of many of the major controversies of his first term.

Most of the department’s 115,000 employees were around for those controversies. Critics believed the Trump White House meddled in some of the department’s high-profile prosecutions. Both of Trump’s attorneys general, Jeff Sessions and William Barr, eventually lost the president’s confidence. And his first term ended with a stunning showdown between Trump and nearly all of his DOJ appointees as they resisted his attempts to cling to power.
But department veterans say those events pale in comparison to what they expect when Trump gets a second chance to try to remake the DOJ in his vision. They also know Trump’s anger at the department has only deepened in the past four years as it launched two unprecedented criminal prosecutions against him.
“Many federal employees are terrified that we’ll be replaced with partisan loyalists — not just because our jobs are on the line, but because we know that our democracy and country depend on a government supported by a merit-based, apolitical civil service,” said Stacey Young, a trial attorney in the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division who won an award from Barr in 2020 and is president and co-founder of the DOJ Gender Equality Network.
It all adds up to a feeling of trepidation for many of the department’s rank and file.
“We’ve all seen this movie before and it’s going to be worse,” said one former DOJ official who served under Trump and several of his predecessors. “It will be worse. It’s just a question of how much worse it’s going to be.”

Commentary:
Machevelli wrote:
"If an injury has to be done to a man, it should be so severe that his vengeance need not to be feared".​
The FBI, DOJ, DHS and IRS allowed Obama to turn them into the Ne-Marxist Democrat secret police and mob lawyers.
They spent years getting dirt on Trump in case he ran for office, and the last eight years failing to bring him down. The entire DNC machine, Hillary's influence, Biden and Obama, cannot cover for them anymore.
Instead of being terrified, they should think about lawyering up and turning state's evidence.
It's not shocking that Politico is expressing the fears of Federal Employees that used their positions to push their political ideologiies in weaponizing their positions on others.
A prime example is the FEMA agent that refused to help families in Florida that had Trump signs on their lawn.
You have to wonder if that happened in North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia?
It's not just employees of FEMA that are fearful, every Federal agency will now be scrutinized and if necessarry purged of the politically biased and DEI employees that have been plced there by Obama and Biden.
They have nothing to fear of if they’ve done nothing wrong.
I'd venture to say that shredders and Bleach-Bit programs in DC are running full blast 24/7, contributing to global warming, since it was confirmed that Trump won the presidential election.
Don't 'worry too much. The pretending by Trump for election purposes is over.

Now he's going to make the switch to reality, and that's what is risky for him.
 
That’s how wishful children operate
The thing with intelligence agencies is that often, they aren't very intelligent.

Trump broke the damn law. Trump tried to incite an insurrection. A republican and a Trump voter tried to kill him. Trump is no victim and your acceptance of his authoritarianism is going to come back to bite you.
I think they just tossed all of the charges recently. Basically confirming that it was all really an attempt to try and use lawfare against the opposition (very democratic). This country was founded as a result of insurrection. And the rest of that shit you just made up. Please don't talk at me again.
 
Trump broke the damn law. Trump tried to incite an insurrection. A republican and a Trump voter tried to kill him. Trump is no victim and your acceptance of his authoritarianism is going to come back to bite you.
Yet your ilk complains that he's going to seek "revenge". The only way there can be revenge is if you guys did something first.
 
Biden, then after he resigns, Harris will pardon everyone in and out of government for whom Trump has a hard on.
 
Yet your ilk complains that he's going to seek "revenge". The only way there can be revenge is if you guys did something first.
He says he's going to seek revenge. And he's seeking revenge for things he perceived.
 
Biden, then after he resigns, Harris will pardon everyone in and out of government for whom Trump has a hard on.
She won’t get one damn thing within light years of being able to osrdon
More hopes and wishes for Dem bright new tomorrow, all sap and thoroughly defeated
 
He says he's going to seek revenge. And he's seeking revenge for things he perceived.
If y'all hadn't so wildly overplayed your hand and convinced the American people that you were going after him simply to keep him out of the White House, you might have gotten somewhere. Now, you've poked the bear a whole bunch of times and he's been let out of the cage. Will you keep poking at him or run away?
 
The thing with intelligence agencies is that often, they aren't very intelligent.


I think they just tossed all of the charges recently. Basically confirming that it was all really an attempt to try and use lawfare against the opposition (very democratic). This country was founded as a result of insurrection. And the rest of that shit you just made up. Please don't talk at me again.
They tossed the charges because they can't convict a setting presidentnot because the charges were what you idiots call lawfare. This country was not founded upon a ex president trying to take power after losing an election.You elected a criminal to the presidency. I will talk at you when necessary because you're stupid.
 
Leroy you deserve revenge but will get a mere 10-20% of what’s deserved
Jethro, what is going to happen is that America wi be punished for this choice. So go fish in the cement pond.
 

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