Man. Where evolution went tragically wrong.

[Woodznutz]

Would we ever say, "This is where gravity went wrong!"

No, that is absurd on its face.

As is the thread title.

Evolution doesn't operate with any purpose, any more than than electricity does.

Then why do the products of evolution seem so purposeful?

 

[ReinyDays]

According to evolution theory a changing environment forces changes in organisms, changes that will provide a better chance of surviving those changes. Man, under evolutionary pressure changed from an organism well suited to survive in harmony with the environment to one that must destroy his environment in order to survive.

This is the fallacy of Darwin's Philosophy ... what modern evolutionary theory rejected 100 years ago ... it's not about Darwin's "Survival of the Fittest", today we focus solely on reproduction ... changing environment usually causes extinctions ... the lack of reproduction ... rats and their cousins reproduce successfully in all environments, whether changing or not ... even Antarctica saw the births of 11 humans ... and these are without any evolutionary mutations ... the rat family is just that good already ...

The environment didn't change in China during 2019 ... yet still a dangerous rodent pathogen evolved ... another counter-example ...

Are you suggesting we change to suit our machines? ... I believe we change our machines to suit ourselves ... thus ... it is the machines that evolve, not the semi-evolved hairless awful-tasting rats ... did we get smarter and just keep using the old computer chips ... or are we the same and use better chips? ...

 

[rightwinger]

Then why do the products of evolution seem so purposeful?

Because those who aren’t purposeful die off

 

[Woodznutz]

What makes you think that evolution has a purpose to create creatures that survive in harmony? All evidence is that evolution is about killing or being killed.

Good point.

 

[ReinyDays]

Then why do the products of evolution seem so purposeful?

Because the human mind is really really good at finding purpose ... even if there is none ... some things just are ... there doesn't have to be a reason ...

 

[Woodznutz]

Intelligent design of course does not exist.

So, why do we have the ability to create intelligent designs?

 

[Woodznutz]

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The 'Frankendog' is the product of science, selective breeding. Something that wouldn't happen in nature.

 

[ReinyDays]

If so, it follows that intelligence itself doesn't exist.

You don't think intelligence among the Rat Family helps with reproduction? ...

Though a very interesting philosophical question ... that's not how evolution works ... it's chemistry, not design ... c.f. Watson/Crick 1954 ...

 

[Mac-7]

According to evolution theory a changing environment forces changes in organisms, changes that will provide a better chance of surviving those changes. Man, under evolutionary pressure changed from an organism well suited to survive in harmony with the environment to one that must destroy his environment in order to survive.

Huh?

Can you explain that a little more?

 

[Woodznutz]

We are even running out of high quality sand. Sand. You’d think we’d never run out of that. But we need it to make bricks I guess. Too many people.

It’s a sad reality. If you give everyone a good income and the opposite sex, we will breed like rabbits. Even poor people breed like rabbits. More. But not if musk, trump and vivik cut them off. No free healthcare and school lunches. Or foodstamps. When you cut poor people off, they’ll wise up and take the pill. Or insist he wear a rubber.

Middle class Americans are more like me than I thought. I always felt like a minority not wanting or having kids. But there’s a lot more like me than I realized. We don’t have job security like our parents and grandparents had. If they worked someplace in their 20s they probably retired there with a pension. I’d have kids too if I ever had job security. But that doesn’t exist today. Who wants to have kids and suddenly be unemployed?

It's the evolution of the Devil's design for us. We abandoned God's plan for us.

 

[Woodznutz]

You don't think intelligence among the Rat Family helps with reproduction? ...

Though a very interesting philosophical question ... that's not how evolution works ... it's chemistry, not design ... c.f. Watson/Crick 1954 ...

So, architects and engineers mix up chemicals in order to decide how to build buildings?

 

[Woodznutz]

Huh?

Can you explain that a little more?

Isn't it self-evident?

 

[sealybobo]

It's the evolution of the Devil's design for us. We abandoned God's plan for us.

God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

God gives bad advice. Or, this is PROOF that the bible was written by ancient men in antiquity. How could God's advice be outdated? How could God not warn us of over population?

 

[Woodznutz]

You don't think intelligence among the Rat Family helps with reproduction? ...

Though a very interesting philosophical question ... that's not how evolution works ... it's chemistry, not design ... c.f. Watson/Crick 1954 ...

Perhaps, if evolution were true.

 

[ReinyDays]

So, architects and engineers mix up chemicals in order to decide how to build buildings?

Of course ... it's called "biochemistry" ... architects and engineers put various plant materials in their mouths, chew the plant material up with their teeth and swallow ... the plant material has proteins which are broken down into component amino acids ... these plant amino acids are then realigned into rodent proteins for the architects' and engineers' use ...

Fighting ignorance ... construction workers decide how buildings are built ... as a carpenter, all I need is the floor plan on a cocktail napkin ... I can do everything else except span more than 8 feet ... typically we get engineered trusses for that ...

19th Century science ... where ya been? ...

 

[sealybobo]

Point taken.

I want to make a point about furs and diamonds.

1. Diamonds, they have so many diamonds it's pathetic. They only pretend that they are rare. They are not. It's a scam.

2. Furs are Green as long as you don't over trap. I watch Mountain Men. The guy traps but never over traps. He wants there to be Martins and Beaver there next year. Bobcat, Coyote, Wolves. All make beautiful warm clothing and there is a never ending supply of it so long was we are responsible. Which humans almost never are.

 

[ReinyDays]

Perhaps, if evolution were true.

What experiment can we conduct that will disproved modern evolution theory? ...

Science is all about the flesh ... which in turn is vanity and vexation of spirit ... don't you read the Bible? ...

 

[Woodznutz]

God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

God gives bad advice. Or, this is PROOF that the bible was written by ancient men in antiquity. How could God's advice be outdated? How could God not warn us of over population?

God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

God gives bad advice. Or, this is PROOF that the bible was written by ancient men in antiquity. How could God's advice be outdated? How could God not warn us of over population?

God prophesied our future and our fate. We can delay it but we can't stop it. He told believers to "come out" so we wouldn't share in the coming disaster, disaster of our own making.

 

[Woodznutz]

What experiment can we conduct that will disproved modern evolution theory? ...

Science is all about the flesh ... which in turn is vanity and vexation of spirit ... don't you read the Bible? ...

Of course I read the Bible. Mortal flesh is our burden to bear. We can fight it or embrace it. I'm almost 85 and ready to go anytime (anything past 80 is a gift).

 

[Mac-7]

Isn't it self-evident?

If it was I would not have asked