Man May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

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This is absolutely deplorable. What sort of country is this and what do we want it to be? We have the best criminal justice system in the world , but any system is only as good as the people who administer this. Why did the judge not address this during trial, and who is his appeal noy being heard? Read the whole article before passing judgement.

6 Civil Rights Groups Urge Eighth Circuit to Accept Appeal of Man Who May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

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Six civil rights organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota, Lambda Legal, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, National Center for Lesbian Rights, and National LGBT Bar Association, filed an amici brief today urging the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the appeal of Charles Rhines, a gay man on death row in South Dakota.
According to the filing, new evidence “suggests that at least some members of the jury accepted the notion that life in prison without parole would be fun for a gay person – so much so that they felt it was necessary to impose the death penalty instead. In other words, significant evidence suggests that the jury may have sentenced Mr. Rhines to death based not on the facts of his case, but because he is gay.”
What horseshit! Life in prison fun? !!! And the sex would most likely be rape. Do these fucking morons that a gay man enjoys being raped any more than someone else?

Furthermore:
During jury deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge that indicated that Mr. Rhines’s status as a gay man had become a focal point for deliberations. The note asked whether, if sentenced to life without parole, Mr. Rhines would “be allowed to mix with the general inmate population,” be able to “brag about his crime to other inmates, especially new and/or young men,” enjoy “conjugal visits” and asked other questions about Mr. Rhines’s access to other men while in prison. (Application at p. 6.)
And consider :

At trial, the jury heard through witnesses presented by the state that Mr. Rhines was gay and had relationships with other men. They were asked to choose between life in prison without parole and the death penalty for a murder committed when an employee surprised Mr. Rhines in the course of a commercial burglary. During their deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge indicating that deliberations had become infected with anti-gay stereotypes and prejudices. (Application at p. 6.)

The judge did not address these questions and failed to head off the anti-gay bias that the questions revealed. The same day, about eight hours later, the jury voted to sentence Mr. Rhines to death. (Application at pp. 5-6.)
This says it all:

As Chief Justice Roberts has explained, the core premise of our criminal justice system is that “[o]ur law punishes people for what they do, not who they are.” (Buck v. Davis) Bias based on a characteristic that cannot be changed, such as race or sexual orientation, goes against this foundational principle. Allowing bias to play any role in sentencing is especially alarming when the bias may have made the difference between life and death.
 

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This is absolutely deplorable. What sort of country is this and what do we want it to be? We have the best criminal justice system in the world , but any system is only as good as the people who administer this. Why did the judge not address this during trial, and who is his appeal noy being heard? Read the whole article before passing judgement.

6 Civil Rights Groups Urge Eighth Circuit to Accept Appeal of Man Who May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

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Six civil rights organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota, Lambda Legal, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, National Center for Lesbian Rights, and National LGBT Bar Association, filed an amici brief today urging the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the appeal of Charles Rhines, a gay man on death row in South Dakota.
According to the filing, new evidence “suggests that at least some members of the jury accepted the notion that life in prison without parole would be fun for a gay person – so much so that they felt it was necessary to impose the death penalty instead. In other words, significant evidence suggests that the jury may have sentenced Mr. Rhines to death based not on the facts of his case, but because he is gay.”
What horseshit! Life in prison fun? !!! And the sex would most likely be rape. Do these fucking morons that a gay man enjoys being raped any more than someone else?

Furthermore:
During jury deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge that indicated that Mr. Rhines’s status as a gay man had become a focal point for deliberations. The note asked whether, if sentenced to life without parole, Mr. Rhines would “be allowed to mix with the general inmate population,” be able to “brag about his crime to other inmates, especially new and/or young men,” enjoy “conjugal visits” and asked other questions about Mr. Rhines’s access to other men while in prison. (Application at p. 6.)
And consider :

At trial, the jury heard through witnesses presented by the state that Mr. Rhines was gay and had relationships with other men. They were asked to choose between life in prison without parole and the death penalty for a murder committed when an employee surprised Mr. Rhines in the course of a commercial burglary. During their deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge indicating that deliberations had become infected with anti-gay stereotypes and prejudices. (Application at p. 6.)

The judge did not address these questions and failed to head off the anti-gay bias that the questions revealed. The same day, about eight hours later, the jury voted to sentence Mr. Rhines to death. (Application at pp. 5-6.)
This says it all:

As Chief Justice Roberts has explained, the core premise of our criminal justice system is that “[o]ur law punishes people for what they do, not who they are.” (Buck v. Davis) Bias based on a characteristic that cannot be changed, such as race or sexual orientation, goes against this foundational principle. Allowing bias to play any role in sentencing is especially alarming when the bias may have made the difference between life and death.
All murderers should be executed.

Problem solved.
 

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Since many Gays have a short lifespan because of AIDS or committing suicide.

And because the appeals process usually takes 20+ years.

He will most likely be dead long before his execution date. .... :cool:
 
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That the man was gay had nothing to do with sentencing.

Quash the verdict, pick a new jury, and retry the sentencing phase.

Bunch a damn rednecks.
 

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That the man was gay had nothing to do with sentencing.

Quash the verdict, pick a new jury, and retry the sentencing phase.

Bunch a damn rednecks.
 
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This is absolutely deplorable. What sort of country is this and what do we want it to be? We have the best criminal justice system in the world , but any system is only as good as the people who administer this. Why did the judge not address this during trial, and who is his appeal noy being heard? Read the whole article before passing judgement.

6 Civil Rights Groups Urge Eighth Circuit to Accept Appeal of Man Who May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

Selected Excerpts

Six civil rights organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota, Lambda Legal, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, National Center for Lesbian Rights, and National LGBT Bar Association, filed an amici brief today urging the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the appeal of Charles Rhines, a gay man on death row in South Dakota.
According to the filing, new evidence “suggests that at least some members of the jury accepted the notion that life in prison without parole would be fun for a gay person – so much so that they felt it was necessary to impose the death penalty instead. In other words, significant evidence suggests that the jury may have sentenced Mr. Rhines to death based not on the facts of his case, but because he is gay.”
What horseshit! Life in prison fun? !!! And the sex would most likely be rape. Do these fucking morons that a gay man enjoys being raped any more than someone else?

Furthermore:
During jury deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge that indicated that Mr. Rhines’s status as a gay man had become a focal point for deliberations. The note asked whether, if sentenced to life without parole, Mr. Rhines would “be allowed to mix with the general inmate population,” be able to “brag about his crime to other inmates, especially new and/or young men,” enjoy “conjugal visits” and asked other questions about Mr. Rhines’s access to other men while in prison. (Application at p. 6.)
And consider :

At trial, the jury heard through witnesses presented by the state that Mr. Rhines was gay and had relationships with other men. They were asked to choose between life in prison without parole and the death penalty for a murder committed when an employee surprised Mr. Rhines in the course of a commercial burglary. During their deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge indicating that deliberations had become infected with anti-gay stereotypes and prejudices. (Application at p. 6.)

The judge did not address these questions and failed to head off the anti-gay bias that the questions revealed. The same day, about eight hours later, the jury voted to sentence Mr. Rhines to death. (Application at pp. 5-6.)
This says it all:

As Chief Justice Roberts has explained, the core premise of our criminal justice system is that “[o]ur law punishes people for what they do, not who they are.” (Buck v. Davis) Bias based on a characteristic that cannot be changed, such as race or sexual orientation, goes against this foundational principle. Allowing bias to play any role in sentencing is especially alarming when the bias may have made the difference between life and death.
All murderers should be executed.

Problem solved.
That you
This is absolutely deplorable. What sort of country is this and what do we want it to be? We have the best criminal justice system in the world , but any system is only as good as the people who administer this. Why did the judge not address this during trial, and who is his appeal noy being heard? Read the whole article before passing judgement.

6 Civil Rights Groups Urge Eighth Circuit to Accept Appeal of Man Who May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

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Six civil rights organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota, Lambda Legal, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, National Center for Lesbian Rights, and National LGBT Bar Association, filed an amici brief today urging the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the appeal of Charles Rhines, a gay man on death row in South Dakota.
According to the filing, new evidence “suggests that at least some members of the jury accepted the notion that life in prison without parole would be fun for a gay person – so much so that they felt it was necessary to impose the death penalty instead. In other words, significant evidence suggests that the jury may have sentenced Mr. Rhines to death based not on the facts of his case, but because he is gay.”
What horseshit! Life in prison fun? !!! And the sex would most likely be rape. Do these fucking morons that a gay man enjoys being raped any more than someone else?

Furthermore:
During jury deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge that indicated that Mr. Rhines’s status as a gay man had become a focal point for deliberations. The note asked whether, if sentenced to life without parole, Mr. Rhines would “be allowed to mix with the general inmate population,” be able to “brag about his crime to other inmates, especially new and/or young men,” enjoy “conjugal visits” and asked other questions about Mr. Rhines’s access to other men while in prison. (Application at p. 6.)
And consider :

At trial, the jury heard through witnesses presented by the state that Mr. Rhines was gay and had relationships with other men. They were asked to choose between life in prison without parole and the death penalty for a murder committed when an employee surprised Mr. Rhines in the course of a commercial burglary. During their deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge indicating that deliberations had become infected with anti-gay stereotypes and prejudices. (Application at p. 6.)

The judge did not address these questions and failed to head off the anti-gay bias that the questions revealed. The same day, about eight hours later, the jury voted to sentence Mr. Rhines to death. (Application at pp. 5-6.)
This says it all:

As Chief Justice Roberts has explained, the core premise of our criminal justice system is that “[o]ur law punishes people for what they do, not who they are.” (Buck v. Davis) Bias based on a characteristic that cannot be changed, such as race or sexual orientation, goes against this foundational principle. Allowing bias to play any role in sentencing is especially alarming when the bias may have made the difference between life and death.
All murderers should be executed.

Problem solved.
Thank you for that brilliant and thoughtful commentary on a difficult and complex subject . Clearly you a deep understanding and appreciation of the criminal justice system, and are a strong advocate for human rights as well. May the Gods and Goddesses smile upon you. Please continue your commitment to the high level of intellectual discourse on the USMB
 

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This is absolutely deplorable. What sort of country is this and what do we want it to be? We have the best criminal justice system in the world , but any system is only as good as the people who administer this. Why did the judge not address this during trial, and who is his appeal noy being heard? Read the whole article before passing judgement.

6 Civil Rights Groups Urge Eighth Circuit to Accept Appeal of Man Who May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

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Six civil rights organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota, Lambda Legal, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, National Center for Lesbian Rights, and National LGBT Bar Association, filed an amici brief today urging the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the appeal of Charles Rhines, a gay man on death row in South Dakota.
According to the filing, new evidence “suggests that at least some members of the jury accepted the notion that life in prison without parole would be fun for a gay person – so much so that they felt it was necessary to impose the death penalty instead. In other words, significant evidence suggests that the jury may have sentenced Mr. Rhines to death based not on the facts of his case, but because he is gay.”
What horseshit! Life in prison fun? !!! And the sex would most likely be rape. Do these fucking morons that a gay man enjoys being raped any more than someone else?

Furthermore:
During jury deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge that indicated that Mr. Rhines’s status as a gay man had become a focal point for deliberations. The note asked whether, if sentenced to life without parole, Mr. Rhines would “be allowed to mix with the general inmate population,” be able to “brag about his crime to other inmates, especially new and/or young men,” enjoy “conjugal visits” and asked other questions about Mr. Rhines’s access to other men while in prison. (Application at p. 6.)
And consider :

At trial, the jury heard through witnesses presented by the state that Mr. Rhines was gay and had relationships with other men. They were asked to choose between life in prison without parole and the death penalty for a murder committed when an employee surprised Mr. Rhines in the course of a commercial burglary. During their deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge indicating that deliberations had become infected with anti-gay stereotypes and prejudices. (Application at p. 6.)

The judge did not address these questions and failed to head off the anti-gay bias that the questions revealed. The same day, about eight hours later, the jury voted to sentence Mr. Rhines to death. (Application at pp. 5-6.)
This says it all:

As Chief Justice Roberts has explained, the core premise of our criminal justice system is that “[o]ur law punishes people for what they do, not who they are.” (Buck v. Davis) Bias based on a characteristic that cannot be changed, such as race or sexual orientation, goes against this foundational principle. Allowing bias to play any role in sentencing is especially alarming when the bias may have made the difference between life and death.

Life in prison is supposed to be punishment...of course this faggot would have the time of his life there.


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This is absolutely deplorable. What sort of country is this and what do we want it to be? We have the best criminal justice system in the world , but any system is only as good as the people who administer this. Why did the judge not address this during trial, and who is his appeal noy being heard? Read the whole article before passing judgement.

6 Civil Rights Groups Urge Eighth Circuit to Accept Appeal of Man Who May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

Selected Excerpts

Six civil rights organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota, Lambda Legal, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, National Center for Lesbian Rights, and National LGBT Bar Association, filed an amici brief today urging the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the appeal of Charles Rhines, a gay man on death row in South Dakota.
According to the filing, new evidence “suggests that at least some members of the jury accepted the notion that life in prison without parole would be fun for a gay person – so much so that they felt it was necessary to impose the death penalty instead. In other words, significant evidence suggests that the jury may have sentenced Mr. Rhines to death based not on the facts of his case, but because he is gay.”
What horseshit! Life in prison fun? !!! And the sex would most likely be rape. Do these fucking morons that a gay man enjoys being raped any more than someone else?

Furthermore:
During jury deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge that indicated that Mr. Rhines’s status as a gay man had become a focal point for deliberations. The note asked whether, if sentenced to life without parole, Mr. Rhines would “be allowed to mix with the general inmate population,” be able to “brag about his crime to other inmates, especially new and/or young men,” enjoy “conjugal visits” and asked other questions about Mr. Rhines’s access to other men while in prison. (Application at p. 6.)
And consider :

At trial, the jury heard through witnesses presented by the state that Mr. Rhines was gay and had relationships with other men. They were asked to choose between life in prison without parole and the death penalty for a murder committed when an employee surprised Mr. Rhines in the course of a commercial burglary. During their deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge indicating that deliberations had become infected with anti-gay stereotypes and prejudices. (Application at p. 6.)

The judge did not address these questions and failed to head off the anti-gay bias that the questions revealed. The same day, about eight hours later, the jury voted to sentence Mr. Rhines to death. (Application at pp. 5-6.)
This says it all:

As Chief Justice Roberts has explained, the core premise of our criminal justice system is that “[o]ur law punishes people for what they do, not who they are.” (Buck v. Davis) Bias based on a characteristic that cannot be changed, such as race or sexual orientation, goes against this foundational principle. Allowing bias to play any role in sentencing is especially alarming when the bias may have made the difference between life and death.
It seems there is no question of the man’s guilt, but rather what punishment is suitable. Put him in a women’s prison- problem solved!
 

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He’s a heinous murderer.
Heinous murderers often get the death penalty.
The jury seems at least equally concerned that he would brag about his crime. This is just more of regressiveperverts obsession with all things gay, IMHO.
 

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This is absolutely deplorable. What sort of country is this and what do we want it to be? We have the best criminal justice system in the world , but any system is only as good as the people who administer this. Why did the judge not address this during trial, and who is his appeal noy being heard? Read the whole article before passing judgement.

6 Civil Rights Groups Urge Eighth Circuit to Accept Appeal of Man Who May Have Been Sentenced to Death Because He is Gay

Selected Excerpts

Six civil rights organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota, Lambda Legal, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders, National Center for Lesbian Rights, and National LGBT Bar Association, filed an amici brief today urging the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to hear the appeal of Charles Rhines, a gay man on death row in South Dakota.
According to the filing, new evidence “suggests that at least some members of the jury accepted the notion that life in prison without parole would be fun for a gay person – so much so that they felt it was necessary to impose the death penalty instead. In other words, significant evidence suggests that the jury may have sentenced Mr. Rhines to death based not on the facts of his case, but because he is gay.”
What horseshit! Life in prison fun? !!! And the sex would most likely be rape. Do these fucking morons that a gay man enjoys being raped any more than someone else?

Furthermore:
During jury deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge that indicated that Mr. Rhines’s status as a gay man had become a focal point for deliberations. The note asked whether, if sentenced to life without parole, Mr. Rhines would “be allowed to mix with the general inmate population,” be able to “brag about his crime to other inmates, especially new and/or young men,” enjoy “conjugal visits” and asked other questions about Mr. Rhines’s access to other men while in prison. (Application at p. 6.)
And consider :

At trial, the jury heard through witnesses presented by the state that Mr. Rhines was gay and had relationships with other men. They were asked to choose between life in prison without parole and the death penalty for a murder committed when an employee surprised Mr. Rhines in the course of a commercial burglary. During their deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge indicating that deliberations had become infected with anti-gay stereotypes and prejudices. (Application at p. 6.)

The judge did not address these questions and failed to head off the anti-gay bias that the questions revealed. The same day, about eight hours later, the jury voted to sentence Mr. Rhines to death. (Application at pp. 5-6.)
This says it all:

As Chief Justice Roberts has explained, the core premise of our criminal justice system is that “[o]ur law punishes people for what they do, not who they are.” (Buck v. Davis) Bias based on a characteristic that cannot be changed, such as race or sexual orientation, goes against this foundational principle. Allowing bias to play any role in sentencing is especially alarming when the bias may have made the difference between life and death.
Picking a heinous murderer to champion now, just cos he is gay?
Seriously? I don’t think you’re going to see much shedding of tears.
And no, not cos he is gay, because he’s a murderer.
 

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May have?....don't you libs ever come up with solid evidence before you go off half cocked?.....may have might have and unnamed sources....rule your day...that is called living in a fantasy....
 

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So Rhines was a victim of jury prejudice according to his champions. What about the prejudice against Donnivan Schaeffer, just some kid opening a donut shop when he was stabbed in the abdomen and back, then pleaded for his life as Rhines plunged the knife into his skull and killed him. He deserves to die not be the pet of social engineers with law degrees.
 

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So Rhines was a victim of jury prejudice according to his champions. What about the prejudice against Donnivan Schaeffer, just some kid opening a donut shop when he was stabbed in the abdomen and back, then pleaded for his life as Rhines plunged the knife into his skull and killed him. He deserves to die not be the pet of social engineers with law degrees.
PP wouldn’t be interested in alleged jury prejudice unless the perp was gay.
 
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So Rhines was a victim of jury prejudice according to his champions. What about the prejudice against Donnivan Schaeffer, just some kid opening a donut shop when he was stabbed in the abdomen and back, then pleaded for his life as Rhines plunged the knife into his skull and killed him. He deserves to die not be the pet of social engineers with law degrees.
Obviously you are unable to comprehend the actual issue which is not what punishment his actions deserve. I will try to help you if that is at all possible. The central issue is whether or not the jury's verdict was based on the nature of the crime, as opposed to WHO and WHAT he is. Is it at all possible that you do not understand or accept the fact that if the sentence was based on WHO and What he is, it runs contrary to the basic principles of our criminal justice system!??
 
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So Rhines was a victim of jury prejudice according to his champions. What about the prejudice against Donnivan Schaeffer, just some kid opening a donut shop when he was stabbed in the abdomen and back, then pleaded for his life as Rhines plunged the knife into his skull and killed him. He deserves to die not be the pet of social engineers with law degrees.
PP wouldn’t be interested in alleged jury prejudice unless the perp was gay.
As usual, you're making shit up.
 

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Enough with the "gay" nonsense.

I would definitely not be "gay" if I were sentenced to death.

"Gay" refers to bright colors, a happy mood, an opimistic outlook, and all sorts other things generally recognized as positive.

The media went a step too far and insisted that such fortunate people are not only positive, but HIV-positive.

When people mean "homosexual," they usually say "homosexual." Otherwise they are usually talking about something else and not quite coming clean with what it is.
 

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There are tons of fags in prison. They are singled out by the inmate population and tortured regularly.

Good call on the sentence. Fudgepacker gets the needle. They saved him the torture he would have endured. What a kind and considerate jury.
 

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