Maher drops a reality bomb on Zohram Mamdani voters

[j-mac]

That has more do to with desiring the familiar than anything else.

Starting a new job is scary. You don't know who any of these people are.

Not to worry, after your boy Trump gets done trashing the economy, a lot of people are going to find themselves in new jobs. Just not as good of ones as they lost.

Yeah sure…

 

[SweetTea]

They are rising, we are in decline. Deal with it.

Yes, many Democratic areas are in decline. Democrats who have lost their minds and vote for Democrats are the cause of the decline.

Now, I do okay, but I had to get a college degree and work a second job, and get nowhere near that. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and then you scratch your big monkey head and wonder why people are voting for Socialists.

The middle class gets richer.

Probably not. I've been to the South. It's practically a third world country

Sure it is. You are very misinformed. You are the one that lives in relative dump compared to where I live. You just don't realize it, which is fine by me. We don't need your type here.

Here's the thing. This myth of able-bodied people sucking up welfare is exactly that, a myth.

Nope, the number of illegals taking jobs these able-bodied folks won't do says otherwise.

 

[August West]

The evidence are the students who believe in socialism coming out of these schools. The democrat party moving to socialism in a big way

The #1 cause of socialism is unfettered capitalism but I like my Socialistic Medicare and Socialistic Social Security. My monthly socialistic pension from a steel mill is also nice. Our socialistic schools, police dept. and fire dept. are great. Do you know what Socialism is? I didn`t think so.

 

[Hafar1014]

The #1 cause of socialism is unfettered capitalism but I like my Socialistic Medicare and Socialistic Social Security. My monthly socialistic pension from a steel mill is also nice. Our socialistic schools, police dept. and fire dept. are great. Do you know what Socialism is? I didn`t think so.

None of that is socialism. A government program isnt socialism its social but not socialism. Where did you flunk out of school.
Socialism is government control of every aspect of the economy and your personal life. Spend some time in Cuba.

Your pension is created by the stock market. You dont have to go to public schools. Just because taxes pay for a service doesnt make America socialist.

 

[toobfreak]

Mamdani is backing away from almost all of his promises. Good luck, NYC

That means that Mamdani ran on false promises and lies. It would be different if he actually tried but failed due to some unforeseen problem. This should be criminal.

More to the point, it suggests that the voters of NYC are idiots for voting for a guy whose entire platform was based on pie-in-the-sky dreams wholly untenable.

 

[Zebra]

Outside of putting up loudspeakers for the Call to Prayer five times a day I think he will be a do-nothing Mayor like many before him.

the loudspeakers are bad enough

 

[Hafar1014]

That means that Mamdani ran on false promises and lies. It would be different if he actually tried but failed due to some unforeseen problem. This should be criminal.

More to the point, it suggests that the voters of NYC are idiots for voting for a guy whose entire platform was based on pie-in-the-sky dreams wholly untenable.

Democrats own his failure and we can shove it right up their you know what in the midterm

 

[August West]

None of that is socialism. A government program isnt socialism its social but not socialism. Where did you flunk out of school.
Socialism is government control of every aspect of the economy and your personal life. Spend some time in Cuba.

Your pension is created by the stock market. You dont have to go to public schools. Just because taxes pay for a service doesnt make America socialist.

Cubans get to eat. That wasn`t a sure thing before Castro.

 

[PeanutGallery]

I'm hoping everyone will figure out AI is a sham that can't meet its promise, but that's neither here nor there.

So instead of having an economy where we are all knifing each other for the few crumbs the Billionaire class lets us keep, we have a system where the wealth is distributed fairly. That doesn't really sound that horrible.

I think I've heard that wealth distributed fairly line before. "From each according to his ability, to each according to their needs." That was attributed to Karl Marx back in 1875. Marx wasn't talking about capitalism. He was talking about what he thought how a communist society would operate. I'm not into people who pocket watches what someone else has like you apparently do.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Did he promise to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it?

Nice deflection.

Shows you are already scared he's going to be an empty suite.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, many Democratic areas are in decline. Democrats who have lost their minds and vote for Democrats are the cause of the decline.

No, America is in decline. Every summer, I go to a place in NOrthern Wisconsin (Red area) and frankly, the place isn't what it used to be when I was growing up. Rural areas in this country are only kept afloat by generous government welfare.

The middle class gets richer.

Nope. Nowhere near the affluence it had when I was growing up

Sure it is. You are very misinformed. You are the one that lives in relative dump compared to where I live. You just don't realize it, which is fine by me. We don't need your type here.

Right, this place you live where you will never tell us where it is, because we'd actually be able to google economic reports.

Nope, the number of illegals taking jobs these able-bodied folks won't do says otherwise.

Except there are no able bodied peope to do these jobs. This is what you keep missing. There aren't swaths of able bodied people refusing to work. There are people who are working jobs that don't put enough on the table, or there are people who are simply incapable of working due to age and disability.

The right wing fantasy of "We're going to throw out all the foreigners and put them welfare people to work" is never going to happen.

 

[SweetTea]

No, America is in decline.

Yes, morally for sure and that is in large part due to Democratic policies.

Nope. Nowhere near the affluence it had when I was growing up

What a load of crap. The middle class today has far more luxuries than they had in the 60’s and 70’s.

Right, this place you live where you will never tell us where it is, because we'd actually be able to google economic reports.

It doesn’t matter. There are a multitude of places all over the country better than where you live. There are pockets of “bad” in every state, but there are also pockets of “good”. The “good” pockets in most states all over the country are far better than Chicago.

Except there are no able bodied peope to do these jobs. This is what you keep missing. There aren't swaths of able bodied people refusing to work. There are people who are working jobs that don't put enough on the table, or there are people who are simply incapable of working due to age and disability.

The right wing fantasy of "We're going to throw out all the foreigners and put them welfare people to work" is never going to happen.

25-30 million able-bodied people are on SNAP and/or Medicaid. That doesn’t even include other welfare programs. You are very mistaken.

 

[JoeB131]

What a load of crap. The middle class today has far more luxuries than they had in the 60’s and 70’s.

They have more technology, that's not really the same thing.

Now you will note the only things that have gotten "cheaper" are - wait for it- things that are largely made overseas now.

Yes, morally for sure and that is in large part due to Democratic policies.

Right. Morality. The party of "Family Values" that has put a serial adulterer, procurer of prostitutes, adjudicated rapist, and oh, yeah, FRIEND OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN in the White House.

Morals.

I have a different idea of what constitutes morals. I don't give a shit which hole people are sticking their dicks into. It's none of my ******* business. What I consider "immoral" is rounding up people on the basis of their skin color or taking food and medical care away from poor people to give tax breaks to billionaires.

It doesn’t matter. There are a multitude of places all over the country better than where you live. There are pockets of “bad” in every state, but there are also pockets of “good”. The “good” pockets in most states all over the country are far better than Chicago.

Sure it matters. I'm straightforward and honest about where I live. (I don't actually live in Chicago proper, but one of the nicer suburbs). If you are going to dunk on IL or Chicago, you really should tell us which metro area and state you live in so we can compare and contrast.

Unless you're...

25-30 million able-bodied people are on SNAP and/or Medicaid. That doesn’t even include other welfare programs. You are very mistaken.

Except most of those people have jobs. 40% of SNAP households have at least one person with a job. With Medicaid, it was 67 of adults between 18 and 64 are working.

Understanding the Intersection of Medicaid and Work: An Update | KFF

Amid renewed interest in Medicaid work requirements as part of a broader legislative package designed to significantly reduce federal Medicaid spending, KFF has updated its analysis of the work status and demographic characteristics of Medicaid enrollees with the latest data. Data show that, in...

www.kff.org

This brief updates an earlier analysis of work status and characteristics of Medicaid enrollees to show that in 2023, nearly two-thirds of adults ages 19-64 covered by Medicaid were working and nearly three in ten were not working because of caregiving responsibilities, illness or disability, or due to school attendance, reasons that counted as qualifying exemptions from the work requirements under previous policies.

 

[SweetTea]

Except most of those people have jobs. 40% of SNAP households have at least one person with a job. With Medicaid, it was 67 of adults between 18 and 64 are working.

The 25-30 million are estimates for able-bodied not working on Medicaid and SNAP. Medicaid has about 80 million total enrollees. SNAP has about 42 million.

 

[JoeB131]

The 25-30 million are estimates for able-bodied not working on Medicaid and SNAP. Medicaid has about 80 million total enrollees. SNAP has about 42 million.

Estimates by who?

Not in Labor Force

Graph and download economic data for Not in Labor Force (LNU05000000) from Jan 1975 to Aug 2025 about 16 years +, labor force, labor, household survey, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

There are 100 million people who are not in the labor force, total. - Ages 16 and over.

There are 26 million people who are not in the labor force due to a disability.

12 million are between 16 and 19. They are students.

34 Million of them are over 65 and retired.

Of the remaining 28 million, a large chunk of those are women who are stay-at-home mothers.


MEANWHILE- Who is on SNAP.


15% of SNAP recipients are over 65. 33% are under the age of 18. Of the 52% that remain, most of them work.

What the data says about food stamps in the U.S.

On average, 42.4 million people in 22.7 million households received monthly SNAP benefits through the first eight months of the 2025 fiscal year.

www.pewresearch.org

Now, Medicaid is a little trickier, because you only use medicare if you are sick. So you could be covered under "Medicaid" but if you never see a doctor or have a medical issue, it's kind of moot.

Most of the money Medicaid spends is on - wait for it - assisted living.

 

[SweetTea]

Estimates by who?

The X Factor: How the Labor Force Continues to Be Decimated by Skyrocketing Medicaid Enrollment

 

[Hafar1014]

Cubans get to eat. That wasn`t a sure thing before Castro.

Today Cuba has massive food shortages and rationing

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They have more technology, that's not really the same thing.


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Now you will note the only things that have gotten "cheaper" are - wait for it- things that are largely made overseas now.




Right. Morality. The party of "Family Values" that has put a serial adulterer, procurer of prostitutes, adjudicated rapist, and oh, yeah, FRIEND OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN in the White House.

Morals.

I have a different idea of what constitutes morals. I don't give a shit which hole people are sticking their dicks into. It's none of my ******* business. What I consider "immoral" is rounding up people on the basis of their skin color or taking food and medical care away from poor people to give tax breaks to billionaires.



Sure it matters. I'm straightforward and honest about where I live. (I don't actually live in Chicago proper, but one of the nicer suburbs). If you are going to dunk on IL or Chicago, you really should tell us which metro area and state you live in so we can compare and contrast.

Unless you're...

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Except most of those people have jobs. 40% of SNAP households have at least one person with a job. With Medicaid, it was 67 of adults between 18 and 64 are working.

Understanding the Intersection of Medicaid and Work: An Update | KFF

Amid renewed interest in Medicaid work requirements as part of a broader legislative package designed to significantly reduce federal Medicaid spending, KFF has updated its analysis of the work status and demographic characteristics of Medicaid enrollees with the latest data. Data show that, in...

www.kff.org

This brief updates an earlier analysis of work status and characteristics of Medicaid enrollees to show that in 2023, nearly two-thirds of adults ages 19-64 covered by Medicaid were working and nearly three in ten were not working because of caregiving responsibilities, illness or disability, or due to school attendance, reasons that counted as qualifying exemptions from the work requirements under previous policies.

Medical care and college.
The government gets more involved and prices skyrocket.
Weird.

 

[August West]

Today Cuba has massive food shortages and rationing. Was it ever a good place to be? Only for the American Mafia and maybe the girls who worked in one of the 270 brothels.

 

[JoeB131]

The X Factor: How the Labor Force Continues to Be Decimated by Skyrocketing Medicaid Enrollment

Yeah, guy, here's why I can't take this site seriously...

In 2000, the labor force participation rate was at an all-time high of just above 67 percent.15 But in the decades that followed, labor force participation rates began declining across the board.16

By 2023, labor force participation rates fell to just shy of 63 percent—a decline of seven percent.17


Um,... no. 67 - 63% is FOUR percent, not Seven percent. It also fails to understand the main reason WHY the Labor Participation rate has been falling.

The main reason why it's been falling, mostly since 2011, is because that's when the first Baby Boomers started retiring.

And then there's THIS little gem.

Since 2000, the Medicaid program has been flooded with able-bodied adults—with more than 33 million enrolled in a little more than two decades.22-23 The primary driver of this growth has been Medicaid expansion, as able-bodied adult enrollment has more than doubled since 2013—the year before expansion went live—resulting in massive enrollment and cost overruns for states that took the bait

Again, they miss a key part of the picture. The expansion of Medicid included those who went from being uninsured (about 40 million pre-ACA) or had inadequate insurance (25 Million). People did what the law was intended to do, they got on the exchanges.