lWhat has the Auto Industry actually invented in the last 70 years?

[rightwinger]

Auto fatalities are actually up thanks to the CAFE standards that have now been neutered.

 

[petro]

I also want physical controls and not run everything through a screen.
Get rid of the useless start/stop feature.
Voice command is a joke.

But heated seats are a gift from Heaven.

 

[rightwinger]

I appreciate your position. But elderly me, won't want to be stuck in his house.


We have a bit of a conflict here.

Self driving car would be like letting your wife drive
Too irritating

 

[22lcidw]

Biggest change is cars are significantly safer, lighter and more reliable
Emissions are way down, fuel economy up and auto fatalities have dropped tremendously

If the grade of steel used in the 50's stayed the same even with this era's smaller vehicles, safety may be even more pronounced today.

 

[Correll]

Self driving car would be like letting your wife drive
Too irritating

I have an 84 year old father in law. He has a pretty good life. But if he loses the ability to drive, it falls apart.


A self driving car, could extend his quality life, by a decade easy.

I'm not sure what my life will be like, when/if I get that old, but I want to have the maximum mobility as long as I can.

 

[Vrenn]

• 
  Airbags: Patented in 1953, airbags became available in some cars in the early 1970s, becoming mandatory for drivers and passengers in the US by 1998.

In the application of safety only. They date back on truck suspensions at the early 20th century. As far as I know, no one patented the suspension air bags but they were slowly introduced as the weights increased and the use of good roads were made available. The Airbags were used to isolate many things and it's been long enough that no one really knows when or if they were patented and were first used. No Invention, only a different application.

• Seat Belts: While seat belts existed before, the three-point seat belt, which provides greater restraint across the lap and shoulder, was pioneered by Volvo in 1959 and has become a universal safety standard.

3 points and more were used in all forms of flying and racing back to the late 1890s. Nothing was invented here. Nothing was invented and no new application.

• Anti-lock Braking System (ABS): Introduced in the 1970s, ABS helps prevent skidding during hard braking, allowing drivers to maintain steering control.

Easy answer. Tanks used something similar during WWII. At least the heavies did. It helped them to go over obstacles where the tracks would not just spin independently. Again, no invention, only a new application of an old idea.

• Electronic Stability Control (ESC): Developed in the 1990s, ESC helps vehicles maintain control by detecting and reducing loss of traction, according to AutoRepairBA.com.

I worked on a number of Prop Jobs (like the C-54, C-118, C-130, P-3, C-124, C-133) that used that type of system to synchronize the engines.

• Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems (ADAS): Starting in the 2010s, these systems include features like adaptive cruise control, lane-keeping assistance, and automatic emergency braking, working together to prevent accidents.
• Blind Spot Detection: Using sensors to monitor areas around the car not visible to the driver, this system alerts the driver of vehicles in the blind spot.
• Rear-View Cameras and Parking Sensors: These features enhance visibility when backing up, making parking safer and easier.

Almost everything you show is a new application of an old idea. WWII and the 1950s came out with almost everything you have listed. In the last 3, they were brought out but people just refused to spend the money since they would only be offered in such cars as the Continental, Ford Lincoln or the Chrysler Imperial.

 

[Vrenn]

you should be telling vrenn that....

Now, exactly what should you be telling Vrenn? Is the fact that the engines and transmissions from the 50s and the Tanks and Aircraft from the 30s and 40s had more to do with todays automotive than any of the Auto Manufacturers?

 

[Vrenn]

In 2011 I was in a flood which caused my old Ford to basically be stranded in situ; hence I was unable to get up a Range into the main city area and was ISOLATED for several days. I was technically a "missing person" for a week. After that getting around in a normal car was problematic for about a month. I now have a Jeep V8 and a Nissan Navara Diesel; BOTH 4WD.

Frankly you are wrong.

Greg

He's very wrong. The original SUVs and UTVs came out of the Willys Jeep and the Dodge Powerwagon of WWII.

 

[Synthaholic]

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westwall is a known liar.

 

[Vrenn]

As someone who is getting older myself, I am excited by the development of self driving cars.

They scare the living hell out of me. When they work they are wonderful but when they malfunction they are nightmares.

 

[Synthaholic]

• 
  Airbags: Patented in 1953, airbags became available in some cars in the early 1970s, becoming mandatory for drivers and passengers in the US by 1998.
• Seat Belts: While seat belts existed before, the three-point seat belt, which provides greater restraint across the lap and shoulder, was pioneered by Volvo in 1959 and has become a universal safety standard.
• Anti-lock Braking System (ABS): Introduced in the 1970s, ABS helps prevent skidding during hard braking, allowing drivers to maintain steering control.
• Electronic Stability Control (ESC): Developed in the 1990s, ESC helps vehicles maintain control by detecting and reducing loss of traction, according to AutoRepairBA.com.
• Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems (ADAS): Starting in the 2010s, these systems include features like adaptive cruise control, lane-keeping assistance, and automatic emergency braking, working together to prevent accidents.
• Blind Spot Detection: Using sensors to monitor areas around the car not visible to the driver, this system alerts the driver of vehicles in the blind spot.
• Rear-View Cameras and Parking Sensors: These features enhance visibility when backing up, making parking safer and easier.

Volvo introduced nearly all of the safety innovations that we all take for granted today.

 

[Vrenn]

Biggest change is cars are significantly safer, lighter and more reliable
Emissions are way down, fuel economy up and auto fatalities have dropped tremendously

One that I do agree. But something has been lost, the thrill of driving. The Average Person owning a masterpiece. Hence the 50s and late 60s.

 

[Vrenn]

westwall is a known liar.

How about stopping with the direct insults.

 

[Harry Dresden]

In the application of safety only. They date back on truck suspensions at the early 20th century. As far as I know, no one patented the suspension air bags but they were slowly introduced as the weights increased and the use of good roads were made available. The Airbags were used to isolate many things and it's been long enough that no one really knows when or if they were patented and were first used. No Invention, only a different application.



3 points and more were used in all forms of flying and racing back to the late 1890s. Nothing was invented here. Nothing was invented and no new application.




Easy answer. Tanks used something similar during WWII. At least the heavies did. It helped them to go over obstacles where the tracks would not just spin independently. Again, no invention, only a new application of an old idea.



I worked on a number of Prop Jobs (like the C-54, C-118, C-130, P-3, C-124, C-133) that used that type of system to synchronize the engines.



Almost everything you show is a new application of an old idea. WWII and the 1950s came out with almost everything you have listed. In the last 3, they were brought out but people just refused to spend the money since they would only be offered in such cars as the Continental, Ford Lincoln or the Chrysler Imperial.

who applied and advanced most of this shit?...

 

[rightwinger]

One that I do agree. But something has been lost, the thrill of driving. The Average Person owning a masterpiece. Hence the 50s and late 60s.

I would rather drive todays cars.
Those muscle cars were pigs. Just HP but todays performance cars are much faster and handle better.
Plus….if you crash
No comparison

 

[rightwinger]

Almost everything you show is a new application of an old idea. WWII and the 1950s came out with almost everything you have listed.

The biggest change has been computers
They control everything in a modern engine optimizing performance, braking, suspension and emissions

 

[Mr Natural]

I would rather drive todays cars.
Those muscle cars were pigs. Just HP but todays performance cars are much faster and handle better.
Plus….if you crash
No comparison

Our conservative friends here all live in the past where everything was perfect.

 

[ReinyDays]

Roll cages and spoilers ... oh ... and helmets ... today's drivers wear helmets ...

Now look at an Indycar today, that's what the car industry has invented since WWII ...

 

[Synthaholic]

How about stopping with the direct insults.

Facts don't care about your feelings

 

[Correll]

They scare the living hell out of me. When they work they are wonderful but when they malfunction they are nightmares.

Same thing could be said for human drivers.

When the safety record of the robot cars equals that of human drivers, it is time to allow mass marketing.

i am NOT going to put up with having these cars stuck in testing, while I am stuck at home because I am too old.