Losing Iraq on PBS tonite.

If we ever do become truly energy independent, the Middle East will devolve back into warring tribes. No Caliphate. Just never ending strife between warlords.

But we have been hearing promises of energy independence since, what, Nixon?

We have the ability to be independent, not the desire. We are in the M.E. for Israel, not oil. Oil is the red herring.
 
Fox is like national enquirer.
Is your news source then a voice in your head?

I don't own a television. I read various sources online and draw my own conclusions. I'm not into hack speculation ie cable and network shows.

If you don't own a television, then how do you accomplish this?

I watch some programs on pbs, science and nature. I don't watch their politics.
 
I'll probably watch. Or TiVo for later. Aside from the trillions, we have 4000 families with a dead parent and tens of thousands who are maimed, and a military that is a shell of what it was when Bushii was elected, or selected, though he'd have won anyway if the constitution had just been followed to let Fla's legislature elect the electors.

Both administrations failed to get all-ah-mucky to act as a statesman and open the govt to sunnis and kurds. Imo Frontline is probably the best tv in depth journalism site, and while liberal, it's professional and even handed. I'll be interested to see where they thing the bushii failed politically. It's was obvious at the time that Gen Franks demobilization of the Iraq army was STUPID. And, it'll be interesting to see it the report sheds any light as to whether Obama ever had any leverage over All-ah-mucky.
 
The PBS News Hour, formerly the MacNeil-Lehrer New Hour, is some of the best news reporting out there. You won't see much in the way of reporting on Hollywood divorces or any other such fluff.

PBS is not as biased as NPR. I like Frontline. It is a very interesting show to watch.

They did a particularly good job showing how the US became a giant surveillance State on one of their recent shows.
 
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I trust pbs to offer a partisan one sided conclusion.

Not sure how often you watch PBS - or any other outlet - but PBS is extremely "unopinionated" compared to most others imho.

I watch some programs on pbs, science and nature. I don't watch their politics.

PBS manages to sneak some partisan ideology into some of their science and nature programs.

Anyone who believes PBS is "unopinionated", is either a left wing Democrat, or a liar.
 
Iraq was toast the minute our troops were gone and yes removing Saddam upset the balance.

This was something Powell told Bush but he chose to ignore it.

Catch 22 if ever I saw one. The guy and his minions were monsters but his presence stabilized the ME.
 
I may watch this even though PBS is a joke if you are looking for unbiased information. I supported the war initially and I regret that, but it did seem like things were somewhat stable before Obama called it done without even having a status of forces agreement.

I don't know what's right, but unless we plan on completely abandoning the M.E. (which I support fully), we have no business leaving Iraq in ruins. Leave the M.E. entirely, or fix what we broke.

Ron Paul is right on foreign policy.

We cannot 'fix' the ME

We must leave it to those who live there
 
I don't own a television. I read various sources online and draw my own conclusions. I'm not into hack speculation ie cable and network shows.

If you don't own a television, then how do you accomplish this?

I watch some programs on pbs, science and nature. I don't watch their politics.

Online.

Then what did you mean by

I don't own a television. I read various sources online and draw my own conclusions. I'm not into hack speculation ie cable and network shows.

Were you saying you don't watch television? Or is the technology of how you receive television programming your point?
 
If you don't own a television, then how do you accomplish this?

Online.

Then what did you mean by

I don't own a television. I read various sources online and draw my own conclusions. I'm not into hack speculation ie cable and network shows.

Were you saying you don't watch television? Or is the technology of how you receive television programming your point?

No, I don't watch television. I view sources online. Was there anything else?
 

Then what did you mean by

I don't own a television. I read various sources online and draw my own conclusions. I'm not into hack speculation ie cable and network shows.

Were you saying you don't watch television? Or is the technology of how you receive television programming your point?

No, I don't watch television. I view sources online. Was there anything else?

Yes, the question I posed in the previous post.

Why do you think it is important to differentiate where you get your television programming.
 
Then what did you mean by



Were you saying you don't watch television? Or is the technology of how you receive television programming your point?

No, I don't watch television. I view sources online. Was there anything else?

Yes, the question I posed in the previous post.

Why do you think it is important to differentiate where you get your television programming.

I would consider that there are more reliable sources online. Of course there are hundreds that aren't but more so than television. IMO, television is just a waste of time.
 
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No, I don't watch television. I view sources online. Was there anything else?

Yes, the question I posed in the previous post.

Why do you think it is important to differentiate where you get your television programming.

I would consider that there are more reliable sources online. Of course there are hundreds that aren't but more so than television. IMO, television is just a waste of time.

That's not the question I was asking.
You say you watch television programming, but you seem to be indicating that there is some difference between watching television programming on a TV set or on your computer.

I don't understand what the difference is.
 
Yes, the question I posed in the previous post.

Why do you think it is important to differentiate where you get your television programming.

I would consider that there are more reliable sources online. Of course there are hundreds that aren't but more so than television. IMO, television is just a waste of time.

That's not the question I was asking.
You say you watch television programming, but you seem to be indicating that there is some difference between watching television programming on a TV set or on your computer.

I don't understand what the difference is.

If you're watching the exact program online, there is no difference. You must be confused.
 
I may watch this even though PBS is a joke if you are looking for unbiased information. I supported the war initially and I regret that, but it did seem like things were somewhat stable before Obama called it done without even having a status of forces agreement.

I don't know what's right, but unless we plan on completely abandoning the M.E. (which I support fully), we have no business leaving Iraq in ruins. Leave the M.E. entirely, or fix what we broke.

Ron Paul is right on foreign policy.

We cannot 'fix' the ME

We must leave it to those who live there

I agree, but it will never happen since Israel determines our Mid-East policy.
 
I would consider that there are more reliable sources online. Of course there are hundreds that aren't but more so than television. IMO, television is just a waste of time.

That's not the question I was asking.
You say you watch television programming, but you seem to be indicating that there is some difference between watching television programming on a TV set or on your computer.

I don't understand what the difference is.

If you're watching the exact program online, there is no difference. You must be confused.

So you said you don't own a TV and denigrated TV as beneath you.

But you say you watch it online.

OK, that tells me everything I needed to know. Thank you for your honesty.
 
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