Lock downs can never work, can not end an epidemic, and kill more by making it last longer

[otto105]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

 

[HenryBHough]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

This what happens when trolls are paid by the post not by the word count.

 

[otto105]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

This what happens when trolls are paid by the post not by the word count.

What happens when you speak in English fir us to understand?

 

[Rigby5]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

Wrong.
I remember the 3 injections and 1 oral for the Salk vaccines very well, and the polio epidemic of 1948 was essentially over by then.
Nor would any vaccine work if not for herd immunity, because not everyone can be vaccinated.

 

[otto105]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

Wrong.
I remember the 3 injections and 1 oral for the Salk vaccines very well, and the polio epidemic of 1948 was essentially over by then.
Nor would any vaccine work if not for herd immunity, because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Again, Polio wasn’t eradicated by herd immunity.

So about 1955... The polio outbreak of 1955: Lessons from an epidemic - Boston Children's Discoveries

 

[Rigby5]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

Wrong.
I remember the 3 injections and 1 oral for the Salk vaccines very well, and the polio epidemic of 1948 was essentially over by then.
Nor would any vaccine work if not for herd immunity, because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Again, Polio wasn’t eradicated by herd immunity.

So about 1955... The polio outbreak of 1955: Lessons from an epidemic - Boston Children's Discoveries

Polio was never eradicated at all, since Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria still have cases.
But the last polio epidemic in the US was in 1948, and was essentially over BEFORE the Salk vaccine became available in 1957.

 

[otto105]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

Wrong.
I remember the 3 injections and 1 oral for the Salk vaccines very well, and the polio epidemic of 1948 was essentially over by then.
Nor would any vaccine work if not for herd immunity, because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Again, Polio wasn’t eradicated by herd immunity.

So about 1955... The polio outbreak of 1955: Lessons from an epidemic - Boston Children's Discoveries

Polio was never eradicated at all, since Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria still have cases.
But the last polio epidemic in the US was in 1948, and was essentially over BEFORE the Salk vaccine became available in 1957.

Stop spreading stupid lies.
Learn to think critically

 

[debbiedowner]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

Wrong.
I remember the 3 injections and 1 oral for the Salk vaccines very well, and the polio epidemic of 1948 was essentially over by then.
Nor would any vaccine work if not for herd immunity, because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Again, Polio wasn’t eradicated by herd immunity.

So about 1955... The polio outbreak of 1955: Lessons from an epidemic - Boston Children's Discoveries

Polio was never eradicated at all, since Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria still have cases.
But the last polio epidemic in the US was in 1948, and was essentially over BEFORE the Salk vaccine became available in 1957.

Your information is way off.

Polio was once one of the most feared diseases in the U.S. In the early 1950s, before polio vaccines were available, polio outbreaks caused more than 15,000 cases of paralysis each year. Following introduction of vaccines—specifically, trivalent inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) in 1955 and trivalent oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) in 1963—the number of polio cases fell rapidly to less than 100 in the 1960s and fewer than 10 in the 1970s.

Polio Elimination in the United States

The U.S. is polio-free, thanks to a successful vaccination program.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Rigby5]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

Wrong.
I remember the 3 injections and 1 oral for the Salk vaccines very well, and the polio epidemic of 1948 was essentially over by then.
Nor would any vaccine work if not for herd immunity, because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Again, Polio wasn’t eradicated by herd immunity.

So about 1955... The polio outbreak of 1955: Lessons from an epidemic - Boston Children's Discoveries

Polio was never eradicated at all, since Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria still have cases.
But the last polio epidemic in the US was in 1948, and was essentially over BEFORE the Salk vaccine became available in 1957.

Stop spreading stupid lies.
Learn to think critically

Try it yourself some time.
Think about what has ended all epidemics, not just recently, but in all of time.
It is not vaccines or medicine, because they take too long to make once an epidemic has started.
Some have been prevented by quarantine, but that can't work once the epidemic is entrenched deeply as it is now.
So then herd immunity is and has always has been what ends epidemics.
And the way that works, is that a pathogen gets too greedy, and infects all the local possible victim it could have spread to in its 12 day life.
So then the virus dies out and is gone.
How does flattening the curve prevent this?
By slowing down the spread, you can prevent the local population of victims from being used up.
When you do that, you prevent local burn out of the virus reproduction, so then it can go on forever.
It then has nothing to ever stop it.
The epidemic will then last forever, and will kill infinitely more victims.

Ending any epidemic is dependent upon local spread as quickly as possible.
Only that can ever end it on a larger scale.

 

[Rigby5]

The hope has been to slow down the spread until the most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

Fortunately in some countries a vaccine is available:

First doses of China's CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine arrive in Brazil

The first 120,000 doses of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech <SVA.O> that is being tested in Brazil, arrived at São Paulo's international airport on Thursday morning, the state government said.

www.reuters.com

Vaccine are good, but still also kill some amount of people.
And a vaccine is still too late for the 230,000 who have already died in the US, so locks downs and vaccines can't be the strategy we use in the future.
Instead we should have done something quicker.
Either a full quaranting with contract tracing, or accelerated herd immunity.

You moron are a death cult

You are ignorant.
All existing epidemics has always been ended by herd immunity, and Fauci estimated wrong when he claimed covid-19 would kill 4 million.
The reasons for his mistake was that he did not know that 90% of those infected were asymptomatic, so therefore were not getting tested or recorded. He also did not realize most of the deaths are from those over 70, and that those under 30 are 40 times less likely to die. Instead of his estimate of 70% needing to recover, it is more like 7%, because most people turned out to be inherently immune already.

All?

What about Polio?

The last polio epidemic started in 1948 and was essentially over by the time the Salk vaccine came out in 1957.
And besides, vaccines also depend upon herd immunity because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Swing and a miss.

Wrong.
I remember the 3 injections and 1 oral for the Salk vaccines very well, and the polio epidemic of 1948 was essentially over by then.
Nor would any vaccine work if not for herd immunity, because not everyone can be vaccinated.

Again, Polio wasn’t eradicated by herd immunity.

So about 1955... The polio outbreak of 1955: Lessons from an epidemic - Boston Children's Discoveries

Polio was never eradicated at all, since Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria still have cases.
But the last polio epidemic in the US was in 1948, and was essentially over BEFORE the Salk vaccine became available in 1957.

Your information is way off.

Polio was once one of the most feared diseases in the U.S. In the early 1950s, before polio vaccines were available, polio outbreaks caused more than 15,000 cases of paralysis each year. Following introduction of vaccines—specifically, trivalent inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) in 1955 and trivalent oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) in 1963—the number of polio cases fell rapidly to less than 100 in the 1960s and fewer than 10 in the 1970s.

Polio Elimination in the United States

The U.S. is polio-free, thanks to a successful vaccination program.

www.cdc.gov

My information is correct.
The polio vaccine prevented future epidemics of polio, but the last polio epidemic in 1948 was ended by herd immunity, not the Salk vaccine.
Anyone who does not understand herd immunity, knows nothing about epidemics.