"listen to the scientists”

[dudmuck]

How often have we heard the above statements regarding COVID?
“The science will govern us.” Familiar names who have used this phrase Drs. Fauci, Birx and recently Scott Atlas, and most governors and state health officials, along with numerous talking heads.

Important COVID-19 science the public should know

Today, we have enough good information to design a COVID-19 policy based on hard medical science rather than mathematical models.

thehill.com

Joe Biden Says Follow the Science, but Refuses to Do So
That he would “listen to the scientists” and pursue a pandemic response “informed by science and by experts” was perhaps the most repeated promise of his entire campaign.

Joe Biden Says Follow the Science, but Refuses to Do So

Throughout his campaign, Joe Biden pledged to make facts, science and data the center of his presidency. That he would “listen to the scientists” and pursue a pandemic response “informed by science and by experts” was perhaps the most repeat

humanevents.com

Hmmm.... OK let's following the science of when it comes to closing schools.
Deaths of children age 0 to 18 .... 300 COVID deaths as of 4/7/21 ...
out of 73,039,150 under age 18 or a percent of ... 0.0004107% .
Child population by age group | KIDS COUNT Data Center

Wouldn't the "science" indicate that children don't die from COVID and therefore the science doesn't indicate the rationale for closing schools.
What was the rationale for closing schools?

View attachment 478005

here is your "science" from the journal they referenced.


• The journal article in question found people with symptoms were more contagious than those without, but asymptomatic people did transmit the virus.

• The paper looks only at household transmission, not community spread. An asymptomatic individual who went out in the community could still infect a sizable number of people.

• The paper itself warns that the number of studies looking at asymptomatic transmission is small, making it hard to draw sweeping conclusions.

PolitiFact - No, a recent study didn’t find that there was “no asymptomatic” spread of COVID-19

Critics of policies to contain community spread of the coronavirus have taken to social media to tout a study they said

www.politifact.com

 

[Oddball]

The current iteration of vaccines isn't science, maybe junk science. To bring a drug with new technology, never used before in humans, to the public in 6 months without years of clinical research is beyond absurdity and just complete insanity.

Drug companies come out with new vaccines every flu season. The science is pretty much routine.

Even at that, they're still guessing which strain will be going around.

 

[Oddball]

How often have we heard the above statements regarding COVID?
“The science will govern us.” Familiar names who have used this phrase Drs. Fauci, Birx and recently Scott Atlas, and most governors and state health officials, along with numerous talking heads.

Important COVID-19 science the public should know

Today, we have enough good information to design a COVID-19 policy based on hard medical science rather than mathematical models.

thehill.com

Joe Biden Says Follow the Science, but Refuses to Do So
That he would “listen to the scientists” and pursue a pandemic response “informed by science and by experts” was perhaps the most repeated promise of his entire campaign.

Joe Biden Says Follow the Science, but Refuses to Do So

Throughout his campaign, Joe Biden pledged to make facts, science and data the center of his presidency. That he would “listen to the scientists” and pursue a pandemic response “informed by science and by experts” was perhaps the most repeat

humanevents.com

Hmmm.... OK let's following the science of when it comes to closing schools.
Deaths of children age 0 to 18 .... 300 COVID deaths as of 4/7/21 ...
out of 73,039,150 under age 18 or a percent of ... 0.0004107% .
Child population by age group | KIDS COUNT Data Center

Wouldn't the "science" indicate that children don't die from COVID and therefore the science doesn't indicate the rationale for closing schools.
What was the rationale for closing schools?

View attachment 478005

here is your "science" from the journal they referenced.


• The journal article in question found people with symptoms were more contagious than those without, but asymptomatic people did transmit the virus.

• The paper looks only at household transmission, not community spread. An asymptomatic individual who went out in the community could still infect a sizable number of people.

• The paper itself warns that the number of studies looking at asymptomatic transmission is small, making it hard to draw sweeping conclusions.

PolitiFact - No, a recent study didn’t find that there was “no asymptomatic” spread of COVID-19

Critics of policies to contain community spread of the coronavirus have taken to social media to tout a study they said

www.politifact.com

Politifact.....lmao...

 

[Sunsettommy]

The current iteration of vaccines isn't science, maybe junk science. To bring a drug with new technology, never used before in humans, to the public in 6 months without years of clinical research is beyond absurdity and just complete insanity.

Drug companies come out with new vaccines every flu season. The science is pretty much routine.

That is true, but isn't the Experimental vaccines using NEW technology mean that it isn't a routine vaccine?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The current iteration of vaccines isn't science, maybe junk science. To bring a drug with new technology, never used before in humans, to the public in 6 months without years of clinical research is beyond absurdity and just complete insanity.

Drug companies come out with new vaccines every flu season. The science is pretty much routine.

Normal vaccines using actual attenuated virus, yeah.

 

[MadChemist]

Children can and do contract and spread COVID. It’s not about the safety of the children themselves but the community.

Link please.

 

[colfax_m]

Normal vaccines using actual attenuated virus, yeah

Few vaccines use live attenuated virus these days.

mRNA vaccines have been in development for years, you don’t invent this technology overnight.

 

[MadChemist]

The current iteration of vaccines isn't science, maybe junk science. To bring a drug with new technology, never used before in humans, to the public in 6 months without years of clinical research is beyond absurdity and just complete insanity.

We know you hope so and you want the fake oppressive freedom robbing false panic to continue.

Uh...your response does not fit the quote.

What are you talking about ?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Normal vaccines using actual attenuated virus, yeah

Few vaccines use live attenuated virus these days.

mRNA vaccines have been in development for years, you don’t invent this technology overnight.

Moderna has never brought a drug to market. They have been convicted of several felonies.

Inside Moderna: The Covid Vaccine Front-Runner With No Track Record and an Unsparing CEO

The upstart hasn’t yet developed an approved drug, its chief can be excoriating and until recently investors were disillusioned. A breakthrough coronavirus vaccine could come in trials starting this month.

www.wsj.com

 

[Staidhup]

Science..... mans new golden calf.

 

[colfax_m]

Normal vaccines using actual attenuated virus, yeah

Few vaccines use live attenuated virus these days.

mRNA vaccines have been in development for years, you don’t invent this technology overnight.

Moderna has never brought a drug to market. They have been convicted of several felonies.

Inside Moderna: The Covid Vaccine Front-Runner With No Track Record and an Unsparing CEO

The upstart hasn’t yet developed an approved drug, its chief can be excoriating and until recently investors were disillusioned. A breakthrough coronavirus vaccine could come in trials starting this month.

www.wsj.com

Moderna specializes in mRNA technology. They’ve only been around for 10 years.

 

[WEATHER53]

Science..... mans new golden calf.

Big big sinister push to make science, health and “for our own good” far more important than liberty of the individuals decisions and freedom