List EXACTLY what the U.S. gains in pulling out of Iran deal.

[WillowTree]

Why do liberals always back the terrorist nations like Iran? It is a riddle.

I don't see anyone backing Iran. Try again.

You only see what you wish to see. Read the thread, pay attention to the language from the left. Go ashead, I dare you. Then of course agree with them. Then never mind.

Who is backing Iran vs who is backing the deal? Provide specific links.

If you back the deal you back Iran. Did you not watch Netanyahu’s presentation of Iranian lies? I ran broke their part of the deal long ago but you batshit crazy yahoos want the US to keep kissing Iranian ass!

 

[Coyote]

Well, Obama gifting them billions of our tax dollars didn't slow down their desire to be the first to nuke Israel. Let's see what NOT PAYING them billions and making them a target instead works out....

Obama NEVER gave them billions of tax payers money as a gift. That was Iranians money. Please stop lying. You are inflicting your self with ignorant. Like Willowtree.

Remember with the sanctions and other restrictions. Look how far they got in completing their nuclear ambitions. Very close. At least right now we have full time inspectors in that country monitoring any cheating to the agreements.
The IAEA inspectors consist of mostly US scientists and so far they have NOT reported any complaints or cheating. Except Bibi that wants to go to war at the expense of American boys.

Again. Why did we have Iran’s money?

At least you're admitting it's Iran's money and not "hard earned tax dollars". That's a step forward.

 

[Indeependent]

What incentive do the Iranians have to not produce nuclear weapons?

The deal that the asshole Kerry and incompetent affirmative action Negro did gave them the money up front and no verifiable inspections.

Yes there is a verifiable inspections signed with other allies. We have American scientist inspectors right now full time in Iran. What in the world are you talking about?

Dude you’ve been listening too much of Hannity.

You mean the “allies” we bribe to be our “allies”?

 

[WillowTree]

Well, Obama gifting them billions of our tax dollars didn't slow down their desire to be the first to nuke Israel. Let's see what NOT PAYING them billions and making them a target instead works out....

Obama NEVER gave them billions of tax payers money as a gift. That was Iranians money. Please stop lying. You are inflicting your self with ignorant. Like Willowtree.

Remember with the sanctions and other restrictions. Look how far they got in completing their nuclear ambitions. Very close. At least right now we have full time inspectors in that country monitoring any cheating to the agreements.
The IAEA inspectors consist of mostly US scientists and so far they have NOT reported any complaints or cheating. Except Bibi that wants to go to war at the expense of American boys.

Again. Why did we have Iran’s money?

At least you're admitting it's Iran's money and not "hard earned tax dollars". That's a step forward.

I admitted nothing. I asked a question. Can you answer it or not moron? How do ewe like that language? Nice huh?

 

[there4eyeM]

He didn't end the deal, and took a more moderate approach. So much the better.

 

[Doc1]

nd the Messiah let Russia get away with attacking them.

You're "correct"......we should have nuked Moscow.....What could possibly have gone wrong had we done that.......

BTW.....tell us how your orange clown is imposing NEW sanctions on Putin for the invasion of eastern Ukraine and Crimea

LOL, do you really think your obfuscation will work on me? So it's ok for your Magic Negro to break a pact ( one actually approved by the Senate) but not Rump? You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

What international agreement did Obama break?

I always enjoy schooling idiots.

"The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,

Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,

Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,

Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.

Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind."

Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia

I know you love you some Bammy but he is a *****.

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.

6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.

— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons[9]

How exactly was the agreement broken? They imposed stiff sanctions on Russia following the annexation of Crimea.

Tell me little boy, just what does "security assurances" mean? I love when stupid people like you and nat use the infamous "Nuh-Uh" defense.

 

[rightwinger]

What exactly did the U.S. gain from entering into the Iran deal? We spent about a billion in hard earned taxpayer dollars in an extortion scheme and financed terrorist organizations with boxcar loads of cash and euros.

Eh, A non nuclear Iran for about 15 years.

Now we get a nuclear Iran immediately

 

[Indeependent]

You're "correct"......we should have nuked Moscow.....What could possibly have gone wrong had we done that.......

BTW.....tell us how your orange clown is imposing NEW sanctions on Putin for the invasion of eastern Ukraine and Crimea

LOL, do you really think your obfuscation will work on me? So it's ok for your Magic Negro to break a pact ( one actually approved by the Senate) but not Rump? You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

What international agreement did Obama break?

I always enjoy schooling idiots.

"The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,

Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,

Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,

Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.

Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind."

Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia

I know you love you some Bammy but he is a *****.

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.

6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.

— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons[9]

How exactly was the agreement broken? They imposed stiff sanctions on Russia following the annexation of Crimea.

Tell me little boy, just what does "security assurances" mean? I love when stupid people like you and nat use the infamous "Nuh-Uh" defense.

No Liberal will be happy until they are beheaded by a Muslim child.

 

[there4eyeM]

At this point, regardless of what one might think of the original agreement, just withdrawing is not going to do much good and could do a lot of harm.
It would be better to work with our friends to improve things.

...and, this is essentially what he did.

 

[rightwinger]

What incentive do the Iranians have to not produce nuclear weapons?

The deal that the asshole Kerry and incompetent affirmative action Negro did gave them the money up front and no verifiable inspections.

The incentive of NOT having sanctions on about every imported good. But please answer the question posed by Nat. What does the US gain by pulling out? Doesn't seem to be a complicated question.

Trump is doing his best to undo the damage that asshole Kerry and worthless affirmative action Negro did in giving away the store to the Mullahs. How dumb was it to give them barrels of cash of front and agree to no American inspectors and giving them three weeks notice before any weak UN inspection? How can anybody be that dumb?

It serves notice that the US is not the stupid country headed by Obama any more.

The Iranians lied already and the verification is worthless so we need to start over from a position of strength to keep a belligerent country from acquiring nuclear weapons.

Obama's stupid deal did nothing to assure that the Iranians won't have nuclear weapons but it gave them a lot of money.

Obama was a disaster. Kerry is a traitorous piece of shit whose daughter is married to a filthy ass Iranian.

Trump sent a message to Iran to restart their nuclear program and a message to N Korea not to trust the US in its treaties

 

[Indeependent]

What incentive do the Iranians have to not produce nuclear weapons?

The deal that the asshole Kerry and incompetent affirmative action Negro did gave them the money up front and no verifiable inspections.

The incentive of NOT having sanctions on about every imported good. But please answer the question posed by Nat. What does the US gain by pulling out? Doesn't seem to be a complicated question.

Trump is doing his best to undo the damage that asshole Kerry and worthless affirmative action Negro did in giving away the store to the Mullahs. How dumb was it to give them barrels of cash of front and agree to no American inspectors and giving them three weeks notice before any weak UN inspection? How can anybody be that dumb?

It serves notice that the US is not the stupid country headed by Obama any more.

The Iranians lied already and the verification is worthless so we need to start over from a position of strength to keep a belligerent country from acquiring nuclear weapons.

Obama's stupid deal did nothing to assure that the Iranians won't have nuclear weapons but it gave them a lot of money.

Obama was a disaster. Kerry is a traitorous piece of shit whose daughter is married to a filthy ass Iranian.

Trump sent a message to Iran to restart their nuclear program and a message to N Korea not to trust the US in its treaties

Yawn...

 

[charwin95]

What exactly did the U.S. gain from entering into the Iran deal? We spent about a billion in hard earned taxpayer dollars in an extortion scheme and financed terrorist organizations with boxcar loads of cash and euros.

Yet ANOTHER idiot who "thinks" Iran got U.S. taxpayers' money. No wonder Trump famously stated that he LOVES the poorly educated.

The above idiot is ample proof of why the buffoon, Trump, got elected.

Loser wants Iran to have nukes.

So by withdrawing from the deal will stop them from not completing their nuclear program???

Currently Iran nuclear programs is on hold because of Obama deal. Excellent job Obama.

Do you mind answering Nat question? It’s simple and easy question. Why is it so difficult?

 

[Coyote]

Why do liberals always back the terrorist nations like Iran? It is a riddle.

I don't see anyone backing Iran. Try again.

You only see what you wish to see. Read the thread, pay attention to the language from the left. Go ashead, I dare you. Then of course agree with them. Then never mind.

Who is backing Iran vs who is backing the deal? Provide specific links.

If you back the deal you back Iran. Did you not watch Netanyahu’s presentation of Iranian lies? I ran broke their part of the deal long ago but you batshit crazy yahoos want the US to keep kissing Iranian ass!

So...you've expressed support of Trump negotiating with Rocketboy. Therefore you support NK.

Netanyahu is hardly a trustworthy presenter - he was openly attempting to sabatoge the negotiations, and all he showed was what we ALREADY KNEW - ie no one really believed Iran was simply pursuing peaceful nuclear technology prior to the agreement. None of that changes the fact that there is no evidence that Iran is not abiding by the terms of the agreement per all the parties involved. If anything, it means it's more important to have this agreement in place so inspections can continue. Oh..wait...that bit of common sense means you're supporting Iran

 

[nat4900]

t's not bullshit. Iran allowed unrestricted inspections for the first time. That's a major step. You're not going to get any better deal with out a war, and that is in no one's best interest

It is always good to remind Trump acolytes that have now switched (under Trump's direction) to be against our invasion and occupation of Iraq..................of course, we all know how THAT turned out....

Now picture a war with Iran........3 times the size of Iraq, with an air force and navy and a military force of 600,000 fighting for their homeland.....

What could possibly go wrong for us and the rest of the planet?

 

[Indeependent]

What exactly did the U.S. gain from entering into the Iran deal? We spent about a billion in hard earned taxpayer dollars in an extortion scheme and financed terrorist organizations with boxcar loads of cash and euros.

Yet ANOTHER idiot who "thinks" Iran got U.S. taxpayers' money. No wonder Trump famously stated that he LOVES the poorly educated.

The above idiot is ample proof of why the buffoon, Trump, got elected.

Loser wants Iran to have nukes.

So by withdrawing from the deal will stop them from not completing their nuclear program???

Currently Iran nuclear programs is on hold because of Obama deal. Excellent job Obama.

Do you mind answering Nat question? It’s simple and easy question. Why is it so difficult?

Iran is not developing nukes in the inspected facilities
Happy now?

 

[Indeependent]

Why do liberals always back the terrorist nations like Iran? It is a riddle.

I don't see anyone backing Iran. Try again.

You only see what you wish to see. Read the thread, pay attention to the language from the left. Go ashead, I dare you. Then of course agree with them. Then never mind.

Who is backing Iran vs who is backing the deal? Provide specific links.

If you back the deal you back Iran. Did you not watch Netanyahu’s presentation of Iranian lies? I ran broke their part of the deal long ago but you batshit crazy yahoos want the US to keep kissing Iranian ass!

So...you've expressed support of Trump negotiating with Rocketboy. Therefore you support NK.

Netanyahu is hardly a trustworthy presenter - he was openly attempting to sabatoge the negotiations, and all he showed was what we ALREADY KNEW - ie no one really believed Iran was simply pursuing peaceful nuclear technology prior to the agreement. None of that changes the fact that there is no evidence that Iran is not abiding by the terms of the agreement per all the parties involved. If anything, it means it's more important to have this agreement in place so inspections can continue. Oh..wait...that bit of common sense means you're supporting Iran

I love negative evidence.

 

[Coyote]

You're "correct"......we should have nuked Moscow.....What could possibly have gone wrong had we done that.......

BTW.....tell us how your orange clown is imposing NEW sanctions on Putin for the invasion of eastern Ukraine and Crimea

LOL, do you really think your obfuscation will work on me? So it's ok for your Magic Negro to break a pact ( one actually approved by the Senate) but not Rump? You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

What international agreement did Obama break?

I always enjoy schooling idiots.

"The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,

Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,

Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,

Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.

Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind."

Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia

I know you love you some Bammy but he is a *****.

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.

6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.

— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons[9]

How exactly was the agreement broken? They imposed stiff sanctions on Russia following the annexation of Crimea.

Tell me little boy, just what does "security assurances" mean? I love when stupid people like you and nat use the infamous "Nuh-Uh" defense.

It can mean any number of things. Security isn't necessarily militarization.

Now grow up and discuss things like the intelligent adult you think you are.

 

[Coyote]

I don't see anyone backing Iran. Try again.

You only see what you wish to see. Read the thread, pay attention to the language from the left. Go ashead, I dare you. Then of course agree with them. Then never mind.

Who is backing Iran vs who is backing the deal? Provide specific links.

If you back the deal you back Iran. Did you not watch Netanyahu’s presentation of Iranian lies? I ran broke their part of the deal long ago but you batshit crazy yahoos want the US to keep kissing Iranian ass!

So...you've expressed support of Trump negotiating with Rocketboy. Therefore you support NK.

Netanyahu is hardly a trustworthy presenter - he was openly attempting to sabatoge the negotiations, and all he showed was what we ALREADY KNEW - ie no one really believed Iran was simply pursuing peaceful nuclear technology prior to the agreement. None of that changes the fact that there is no evidence that Iran is not abiding by the terms of the agreement per all the parties involved. If anything, it means it's more important to have this agreement in place so inspections can continue. Oh..wait...that bit of common sense means you're supporting Iran

I love negative evidence.

What other evidence would you expect?

 

[Doc1]

LOL, do you really think your obfuscation will work on me? So it's ok for your Magic Negro to break a pact ( one actually approved by the Senate) but not Rump? You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

What international agreement did Obama break?

I always enjoy schooling idiots.

"The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,

Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,

Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,

Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.

Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind."

Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia

I know you love you some Bammy but he is a *****.

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.

6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.

— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons[9]

How exactly was the agreement broken? They imposed stiff sanctions on Russia following the annexation of Crimea.

Tell me little boy, just what does "security assurances" mean? I love when stupid people like you and nat use the infamous "Nuh-Uh" defense.

It can mean any number of things. Security isn't necessarily militarization.

Now grow up and discuss things like the intelligent adult you think you are.

Just keep digging child. You run around here acting like a 12 year old kid and then cry when you get slapped for it. Sure, Ukraine gave up it's Nukes because we told them we'd scold Russia. What maroon.

 

[Flash]

What incentive do the Iranians have to not produce nuclear weapons?

The deal that the asshole Kerry and incompetent affirmative action Negro did gave them the money up front and no verifiable inspections.

Yes there is a verifiable inspections signed with other allies. We have American scientist inspectors right now full time in Iran. What in the world are you talking about?

Dude you’ve been listening too much of Hannity.

How verifiable can it be with no Americans, three weeks notice and several military installations off limits?

We have seen from the Israelis how the Iranians are liars. How can they be trusted?

That asshole Obama signed a terrible deal. Like the worst ever signed.

Thank goodness Trump is not a weak minded Muslim loving dumbass like that affirmative action nitwit Obama.