LilOlLady's Everlasting Gobstopper Illegal Immigration Thread

[FifthColumn]

Why not put the Mexicans that are here to good use.

Remember the movie "Soylent Green"?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE[/ame]

 

[José]

Why not put the Mexicans that are here to good use.

Remember the movie "Soylent Green"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE

Dude, if you want to commit suicide that bad just gobble up 10 pounds of lard a day and in less than a week you'll have your heart attack without having to resort to cannibalism.

 

[LilOlLady]

What do I hear when I urge the american people to take drastic measures to fight illegal immigration like monster protests and giant street battles that helped end the american military involvement in Vietnam?

An endless parade of inane excuses from lazy, spineless people who don't want to do anything beside whining about illegal immigration on the Internet:

"I'm two busy raising my kids to participate in protests."
"The Vietnam War (an issue that in no way posed an existential threat to America) was much more importants than the issue of illegal immigration (an issue that definitely does)".

etc, etc, etc,...

I know it's cruel to say this but when I see such a huge apathy and innaction I almost think the american people deserve to see their country split in half by Aztlan or become a third world nation.

But "almost" is the key word. I'm not THAT mean. : )

Your kids are the best reason WHY you sould be our protesting. They have no future if this country goes to pot and it is with the massive influx of poverty. Poverty means some one have to subsidize them and you children will be the subsidizers.

 

[LilOlLady]

America Becomes Mexico’s Outsourced Welfare System
5/10/2010 – B. Chrysostom -

We often hear the left and liberals claim that illegal immigrants, especially those from Mexico, only come here to work. Unfortunately, an increasingly larger percentage of those who break the law and enter the country illegally come here solely to benefit from America’s generous social welfare system, free healthcare provided to anyone that walks into an emergency room, and the many free government programs.

Take a look at the chart provided (courtesy of Stand with Arizona). It shows that “Mexican immigrants use America’s social services at multiples not only to native-born Americans, but other immigrants as well–using more than TWICE the amount of total welfare as native-born Americans.” This gives one an idea why Mexico has such an enormous financial stake in defeating Arizona’s SB1070 law and its citizens’ attempts to secure the border, reduce crime, protect law abiding legal residents, and enforce the country’s immigration laws.

Since most states, especially California, do not require proof of citizenship or legal residency for claiming these benefits, millions of illegal immigrants have gotten on the government dole and have swelled the ranks of the welfare rolls. The situation has reached catastrophic conditions and is getting worse. The massive drain on most Southwestern states has driven many state budgets to the edge of bankruptcy.

The tens of billions of dollars (could even be hundreds of billions) America is forced to spend is money and resources that Mexico should be allocating for its citizens. But Mexico’s corrupt government gets a free pass. They flood the US with individuals who do not come here to integrate into society and contribute, but to demand government assistance and live off the hard work and generosity of Americans.

http://conservativedatingsite.com/blog/2010/05/america-becomes-mexicos-outsourced-welfare-system/

 

[Madeline]

And if ever they get Amnesty, those numbers will explode.

Mebbe we should sue Mexico?

 

[LilOlLady]

Friday, 15 October, 1999, 12:30 GMT 13:30 UK
Mexico's welfare revolution

BBC News | CROSSING CONTINENTS | Mexico's welfare revolution

 

[LilOlLady]

Tuesday, June 15, 1999 Published at 15:09 GMT 16:09 UK


World: Americas

Mexico receives large financial aid package [/B
]Mexico is to receive almost twenty-four billion dollars in financial aid from international agencies.

The funds are intended to help Mexico guard against any financial crisis during the next eighteen months, when the administration of President Ernesto Zedillo ends and fresh elections are to be held.

The main sources for the aid are the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the Inter-American Development Bank.

From the newsroom of the BBC World Service


BBC News | Americas | Mexico receives large financial aid package

 

[LilOlLady]

Sunday, May 30, 2010
WE ARE MEXICO'S WELFARE SYSTEM.... A Glimpse...
STUDY OF MEXICANS FEEDING OFF THE AMERICAN GRAVY TRAIN:

Jose Herria emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker. He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 – all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an "anchor baby" – an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in the U.S. permanently. But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian. The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies." While President Bush says the U.S. needs more "cheap labor" from south of the border to do jobs Americans aren't willing to do, the case of the Silverios shows there are indeed uncalculated costs involved in the importation of such labor – public support and uninsured medical costs. In fact, the increasing number of illegal aliens coming into the United States is forcing the closure of hospitals, spreading previously vanquished diseases and threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system, says a report in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. "The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen." According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system. "Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income." In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease." While politicians often mention there are 43 million without health insurance in this country, the report estimates that at least 25 percent of those are illegal immigrants. The figure could be as high as 50 percent. Not being insured does not mean they don't get medical care. Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals are obligated to treat the uninsured without reimbursement. "Government imposes viciously stiff fines and penalties on any physician and any hospital refusing to treat any patient that a zealous prosecutor deems an emergency patient, even though the hospital or physician screened and declared the patient's illness or injury non-emergency," says the report. "But government pays neither hospital nor physician for treatments. In addition to the fiscal attack on medical facilities and personnel, EMTALA is a handy truncheon with which to pummel politically unpopular physicians by falsely accusing them of violating EMTALA." According to the report, between 1993 and 2003, 60 California hospitals closed because half their services became unpaid. Another 24 California hospitals verge on closure, the author writes. "American hospitals welcome 'anchor babies,'" says the report. "Illegal alien women come to the hospital in labor and drop their little anchors, each of whom pulls its illegal alien mother, father, and siblings into permanent residency simply by being born within our borders. Anchor babies are citizens, and instantly qualify for public welfare aid: Between 300,000 and 350,000 anchor babies annually become citizens because of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside." Among the organizations directing illegal aliens into America's medical systems, according to the report, are the Ford Foundation-funded Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the National Immigration Law Center, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, the American Bar Association's Commission on Imm

The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans: Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops. Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies." Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime. An end to amnesty programs.

http://mexicanoccupation.blogspot.com/2010/05/we-are-mexicos-welfare-system-glimpse.htm

 

[Madeline]

Mexico clearly needs help, LilOlLady.

 

[LilOlLady]

Pima County Sheriff; Arizona Immigration Law

Law enforcers has taken as oath to enforce the law and when they refuse to enforce the law they are breaking the law. Pima County Sheriff refuse to enforce Arizona immigration law and should be relieved of his duty as sheriff. He is obviously not doing the job he was hired to do. If it’s the law to enquire of ones legal status if stopped during a traffic violation and one does not have proper documents and is Hispanic looking, that is reasonable suspicion to suspect they may be in the country illegally.

It’s people like him that contribute to 20 million illegal aiens in this country. When border patrols agents are busting their butts and putting their lives on the line 24-7 trying to stop illegal immigration and drug smuggling.

He and other’s like him is the reason Arizona is in a state of emergency with it come to illegal aliens and crime. There should not be any liberal in office in Arizona government at all. In states where liberal are in charges, the state is almost bankrupt will illegal aliens.

If you don’t like being called an “illegal alien” don’t enter the country illegally. Don’t be an illegal alien.

 

[Angelhair]

Sheriff DOPEniks should resign! And if the people in AZ are dumb enough to vote for him again, then they deserve what they get - more violence coming across that border and more discontent. He was foolish enough to go public during the SB1070 Bill that he would NOT follow it if made into law - that ALONE should be grounds for kicking him out of his position!

 

[José]

Originally posted by LilOlLady
The tens of billions of dollars (could even be hundreds of billions) America is forced to spend is money and resources that Mexico should be allocating for its citizens. But Mexico’s corrupt government gets a free pass. They flood the US with individuals who do not come here to integrate into society and contribute, but to demand government assistance and live off the hard work and generosity of Americans.

LilOlLady, YOU MENTALLY RETARDED SUPER PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CLOWN FROM HELL!!!!

MEXICO'S GOVERNMENT DOES NOT FLOOD THE USA!! INDIVIDUAL MEXICAN CITIZENS DECIDE TO LEAVE MEXICO OF THEIR OWN ACCORD AND ON THEIR OWN DIME!!!!

MEXICO, BEING A DEMOCRATIC INSTEAD OF A TOTALITARIAN STATE LIKE NORTH KOREA, HAS THE OBLIGATION TO LET THEM LEAVE!!!!

AND HOW IN THE WORLD IS MEXICO SUPPOSED TO "ALLOCATE MONEY AND RESOURCES FOR ITS CITIZENS" IF THEY DO NOT FIND THEMSELVES IN MEXICAN TERRITORY, IF THE US GOVERNMENT DOESN'T DO SHIT TO ARREST AND REPATRIATE THEM??

YOU LILOLLADY, ARE THE TYPICAL MORALLY DEPRAVED SUPER PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CLOWN WHO'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOREIGNERS TO USE AS ESCAPEGOATS IN ORDER TO SHARE THE BLAME THAT BELONGS ENTIRELY TO THE US GOVERNMENT AND ITS PORNOGRAPHIC DERELICTION OF DUTY!!!

 

[High_Gravity]

Originally posted by LilOlLady
The tens of billions of dollars (could even be hundreds of billions) America is forced to spend is money and resources that Mexico should be allocating for its citizens. But Mexico’s corrupt government gets a free pass. They flood the US with individuals who do not come here to integrate into society and contribute, but to demand government assistance and live off the hard work and generosity of Americans.

LilOlLady, YOU MENTALLY RETARDED SUPER PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CLOWN FROM HELL!!!!

MEXICO'S GOVERNMENT DOES NOT FLOOD THE USA!! INDIVIDUAL MEXICAN CITIZENS DECIDE TO LEAVE MEXICO OF THEIR OWN ACCORD AND ON THEIR OWN DIME!!!!

MEXICO, BEING A DEMOCRATIC INSTEAD OF A TOTALITARIAN STATE LIKE NORTH KOREA, HAS THE OBLIGATION TO LET THEM LEAVE!!!!

AND HOW IN THE WORLD IS MEXICO SUPPOSED TO "ALLOCATE MONEY AND RESOURCES FOR ITS CITIZENS" IF THEY DO NOT FIND THEMSELVES IN MEXICAN TERRITORY, IF THE US GOVERNMENT DOESN'T DO SHIT TO ARREST AND REPATRIATE THEM??

YOU LILOLLADY, ARE THE TYPICAL MORALLY DEPRAVED SUPER PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CLOWN WHO'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOREIGNERS TO USE AS ESCAPEGOATS IN ORDER TO SHARE THE BLAME THAT BELONGS ENTIRELY TO THE US GOVERNMENT AND ITS PORNOGRAPHIC DERELICTION OF DUTY!!!

Pornographic direliction? sounds like a good name for a skin flick.

 

[ABikerSailor]

America Becomes Mexico’s Outsourced Welfare System
5/10/2010 – B. Chrysostom -

We often hear the left and liberals claim that illegal immigrants, especially those from Mexico, only come here to work. Unfortunately, an increasingly larger percentage of those who break the law and enter the country illegally come here solely to benefit from America’s generous social welfare system, free healthcare provided to anyone that walks into an emergency room, and the many free government programs.

Take a look at the chart provided (courtesy of Stand with Arizona). It shows that “Mexican immigrants use America’s social services at multiples not only to native-born Americans, but other immigrants as well–using more than TWICE the amount of total welfare as native-born Americans.” This gives one an idea why Mexico has such an enormous financial stake in defeating Arizona’s SB1070 law and its citizens’ attempts to secure the border, reduce crime, protect law abiding legal residents, and enforce the country’s immigration laws.

Since most states, especially California, do not require proof of citizenship or legal residency for claiming these benefits, millions of illegal immigrants have gotten on the government dole and have swelled the ranks of the welfare rolls. The situation has reached catastrophic conditions and is getting worse. The massive drain on most Southwestern states has driven many state budgets to the edge of bankruptcy.

The tens of billions of dollars (could even be hundreds of billions) America is forced to spend is money and resources that Mexico should be allocating for its citizens. But Mexico’s corrupt government gets a free pass. They flood the US with individuals who do not come here to integrate into society and contribute, but to demand government assistance and live off the hard work and generosity of Americans.

http://conservativedatingsite.com/blog/2010/05/america-becomes-mexicos-outsourced-welfare-system/

Hey Big Old *****, what the **** are you spewing about from A CONSERVATIVE DATING SITE!!!

What's the deal, are ya looking for other racists such as yourself to raise your own little KKK clan?

Face it chick, you're not even a decent life support system for a *****.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Originally posted by Harry Dresden
you can probably say that about a hell of a lot of Americans Jose.......but thats besides the point.....back in the early 1900's the small amount who came over were hardly noticed......look at the amount today.....now they are having an impact on our society.....and that is the point.....if things were reversed and Mexico was like the US and we like them and we were going down there and overwhelming some of their Services.....IM SURE THEY WOULD NOT BE TO HAPPY with those ******* Gringos.....now tell me im wrong about my last statement....

I agree with everything you said, Harry but now I'm gonna ask you an apparently off-topic question that will surprise you.

Have you ever heard of Cesar Millan aka The Dog Whisperer, the most famous dog trainer in the world? Millan crossed the Mexican-US border illegally when he was 21. If someone asked him about his views on illegal immigration he'd probably say something like this (if he decided to be really honest):

"I was in favor of illegal immigration right up until the moment I crossed the border. The moment I was safe and sound in America the US government could have closed it for good for all I care."

And this kind of personal opinion is shared by thousands of legal hispanic-americans, Harry, perhaps even some of your coworkers. They all oppose illegal immigration FOR OTHER HISPANICS, but not for them or their parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc... If they were under any threat of losing their legal status you'd see them changing their opinon overnight.

And I don't really blame them for having this selfish, opportunist outlook. It's human nature to think that way, to be indulgent with oneself and one's family and incredibly harsh on others. That's why I don't give much credit to "'THE MAJORITY OF CHICANOS OPPOSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION" argument. It says much more about human nature than about firmly held opinions.

But make no mistake, you'll have a hard time finding a Latino more suportive immigration laws than me. I just happen to despise this particular argument.

Just think about it, a guy who posts message after message, photo after photo of the Vietnam mass protests exorting the american people to follow the example of their parents and grandparents cannot exactly be considered pro illegal immigration, don't you agree?

Jose....since we were talking about this i decided to get the conversation with a couple of these guys today at work to talk about Illegals......the biggest gripe they seemed to have is the "newcomers" not willing to speak English or blend into the new Country....we have a Girl carrier born in Mexico now a Citizen...she speaks great English....but only speaks Spanish to her 2 young kids,hence they dont know English very well.....she said its not her job....its the Schools job to teach her kids English....this is what a couple of the American born guys pointed out to me.....they think she is an ass for having that Attitude....i got to agree....

 

[SW2SILVER]

Oh, yes, Sheriff Dupnik. "Mr. Vitriol" HIMSELF. Too busy worrying about how to muzzle free speech than worry about enforcing laws that could have prevented a massacre. Yeah, what a hero he is. We don't need opinionated blustering blowhards like this chap in law enforcement picking and choosing what laws they personally will and will not enforce.

 

[Intense]

Oh, yes, Sheriff Dupnik. "Mr. Vitriol" HIMSELF. Too busy worrying about how to muzzle free speech than worry about enforcing laws that could have prevented a massacre. Yeah, what a hero he is. We don't need opinionated blustering blowhards like this chap in law enforcement picking and choosing what laws they personally will and will not enforce.

Damn! He is almost acting like a Fed!!! Where would he get such notions?

 

[FifthColumn]

[....we have a Girl carrier born in Mexico now a Citizen...she speaks great English....but only speaks Spanish to her 2 young kids,hence they dont know English very well.....she said its not her job....its the Schools job to teach her kids English....this is what a couple of the American born guys pointed out to me.....they think she is an ass for having that Attitude....i got to agree....

Shouldn't that be considered "child abuse"?

 

[LilOlLady]

Originally posted by Harry Dresden
you can probably say that about a hell of a lot of Americans Jose.......but thats besides the point.....back in the early 1900's the small amount who came over were hardly noticed......look at the amount today.....now they are having an impact on our society.....and that is the point.....if things were reversed and Mexico was like the US and we like them and we were going down there and overwhelming some of their Services.....IM SURE THEY WOULD NOT BE TO HAPPY with those ******* Gringos.....now tell me im wrong about my last statement....

I agree with everything you said, Harry but now I'm gonna ask you an apparently off-topic question that will surprise you.

Have you ever heard of Cesar Millan aka The Dog Whisperer, the most famous dog trainer in the world? Millan crossed the Mexican-US border illegally when he was 21. If someone asked him about his views on illegal immigration he'd probably say something like this (if he decided to be really honest):

"I was in favor of illegal immigration right up until the moment I crossed the border. The moment I was safe and sound in America the US government could have closed it for good for all I care."

And this kind of personal opinion is shared by thousands of legal hispanic-americans, Harry, perhaps even some of your coworkers. They all oppose illegal immigration FOR OTHER HISPANICS, but not for them or their parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc... If they were under any threat of losing their legal status you'd see them changing their opinon overnight.

And I don't really blame them for having this selfish, opportunist outlook. It's human nature to think that way, to be indulgent with oneself and one's family and incredibly harsh on others. That's why I don't give much credit to "'THE MAJORITY OF CHICANOS OPPOSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION" argument. It says much more about human nature than about firmly held opinions.

But make no mistake, you'll have a hard time finding a Latino more suportive immigration laws than me. I just happen to despise this particular argument.

Just think about it, a guy who posts message after message, photo after photo of the Vietnam mass protests exorting the american people to follow the example of their parents and grandparents cannot exactly be considered pro illegal immigration, don't you agree?

Jose....since we were talking about this i decided to get the conversation with a couple of these guys today at work to talk about Illegals......the biggest gripe they seemed to have is the "newcomers" not willing to speak English or blend into the new Country....we have a Girl carrier born in Mexico now a Citizen...she speaks great English....but only speaks Spanish to her 2 young kids,hence they dont know English very well.....she said its not her job....its the Schools job to teach her kids English....this is what a couple of the American born guys pointed out to me.....they think she is an ass for having that Attitude....i got to agree....

It should be a required that in order to enter the country or enter school, to be able to speak English. The cost of teaching them English is humongous and it take time away from teaching basics. The cost to taxpayers.

Rapidly Rising Cost of Teaching English to Illegal Aliens
Rapidly Rising Cost of Teaching English to Illegal Aliens

 

[LilOlLady]

Sheriff DOPEniks should resign! And if the people in AZ are dumb enough to vote for him again, then they deserve what they get - more violence coming across that border and more discontent. He was foolish enough to go public during the SB1070 Bill that he would NOT follow it if made into law - that ALONE should be grounds for kicking him out of his position!

SB1070 is law. Parts were blocked but the rest stands.


Arizona immigration law 2010: As SB1070 takes effect, Mexicans say 'Adios, Arizona'
Arizona immigration law targeting immigrants has already encouraged Mexicans to begin returning home, even as a US judge halted key portions of SB1070 from taking effect. The Mexico government is boosting legal services in Arizona, and shelters in Sonora state are preparing for an influx.
Arizona immigration law 2010: As SB1070 takes effect, Mexicans say 'Adios, Arizona' - CSMonitor.com