Life In Gaza Concentration Camp

[Shusha]

Sigh. Monte, once again trying to pawn off the ridiculous notion that there was no such thing as Crown Land in the Ottoman Empire and that all land was privately owned by Arabs, if it wasn't owned by Jews. We are bored, monte.

 

[montelatici]

Sigh. Monte, once again trying to pawn off the ridiculous notion that there was no such thing as Crown Land in the Ottoman Empire and that all land was privately owned by Arabs, if it wasn't owned by Jews. We are bored, monte.

Sigh, there was public land, but it was not registered in the names of individuals. The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified as stated in the explanation as to how the land registries were organized by the British.

Now for you stop making things up, once and for all, here is the public land registry. At most public land was a little over 900,000 dunams. So stop lying.

 

[Hollie]

Sigh. Monte, once again trying to pawn off the ridiculous notion that there was no such thing as Crown Land in the Ottoman Empire and that all land was privately owned by Arabs, if it wasn't owned by Jews. We are bored, monte.

Sigh, there was public land, but it was not registered in the names of individuals. The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified as stated in the explanation as to how the land registries were organized by the British.

Now for you stop making things up, once and for all, here is the public land registry. At most public land was a little over 900,000 dunams. So stop lying.

View attachment 120228

From the official Ottoman land records:
Turkey transfers Ottoman land records to Palestinian Authority


Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.

 

[Shusha]

The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified ...

Don't be silly. There ARE only 26.4 million dunams of land in Palestine. Your "land ownership table" shows the TOTAL number of dunams in the territory -- not the total dunams privately owned. The figures on Table 2 are arrived at by subtracting the land area purchased by Jews from total land area -- which was assigned as "Arab land" even though it was a mix of privately owned or leased/cultivated land and Crown Land. The document says as much.

Further, it shows 16 million dunams of land as being uncultivable, 11 million dunams of that uncultivable land is the Negev desert.
Are you trying to sell me that every square metre of that desert was privately bought and registered by individual Arabs? Why would Arabs privately buy an uncultivable slice of desert? That truly would be SOME Palestinian mentality.


Now, can we go back to talking about Gaza and how to fix that little slice of the world?

 

[MJB12741]

Sigh. Monte, once again trying to pawn off the ridiculous notion that there was no such thing as Crown Land in the Ottoman Empire and that all land was privately owned by Arabs, if it wasn't owned by Jews. We are bored, monte.

Sigh, there was public land, but it was not registered in the names of individuals. The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified as stated in the explanation as to how the land registries were organized by the British.

Now for you stop making things up, once and for all, here is the public land registry. At most public land was a little over 900,000 dunams. So stop lying.

View attachment 120228

From the official Ottoman land records:
Turkey transfers Ottoman land records to Palestinian Authority


Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.

Yes. And that should be the fundamental principle as to land ownership. Hey Monte, how about this? All Palestinians who pay taxes on the land can stay in Israel. And out go all their squatters. Fair enough?

 

[montelatici]

The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified ...

Don't be silly. There ARE only 26.4 million dunams of land in Palestine. Your "land ownership table" shows the TOTAL number of dunams in the territory -- not the total dunams privately owned. The figures on Table 2 are arrived at by subtracting the land area purchased by Jews from total land area -- which was assigned as "Arab land" even though it was a mix of privately owned or leased/cultivated land and Crown Land. The document says as much.

Further, it shows 16 million dunams of land as being uncultivable, 11 million dunams of that uncultivable land is the Negev desert.
Are you trying to sell me that every square metre of that desert was privately bought and registered by individual Arabs? Why would Arabs privately buy an uncultivable slice of desert? That truly would be SOME Palestinian mentality.


Now, can we go back to talking about Gaza and how to fix that little slice of the world?

The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified ...

Don't be silly. There ARE only 26.4 million dunams of land in Palestine. Your "land ownership table" shows the TOTAL number of dunams in the territory -- not the total dunams privately owned. The figures on Table 2 are arrived at by subtracting the land area purchased by Jews from total land area -- which was assigned as "Arab land" even though it was a mix of privately owned or leased/cultivated land and Crown Land. The document says as much.

Further, it shows 16 million dunams of land as being uncultivable, 11 million dunams of that uncultivable land is the Negev desert.
Are you trying to sell me that every square metre of that desert was privately bought and registered by individual Arabs? Why would Arabs privately buy an uncultivable slice of desert? That truly would be SOME Palestinian mentality.


Now, can we go back to talking about Gaza and how to fix that little slice of the world?

Table 2 depicts privately owned land by Jews and by Arabs. Why else would the table have been elaborated? You just can't handle the truth. Public land is listed in the table under 104. Also provided.
But keep making things up.

 

[MJB12741]

The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified ...

Don't be silly. There ARE only 26.4 million dunams of land in Palestine. Your "land ownership table" shows the TOTAL number of dunams in the territory -- not the total dunams privately owned. The figures on Table 2 are arrived at by subtracting the land area purchased by Jews from total land area -- which was assigned as "Arab land" even though it was a mix of privately owned or leased/cultivated land and Crown Land. The document says as much.

Further, it shows 16 million dunams of land as being uncultivable, 11 million dunams of that uncultivable land is the Negev desert.
Are you trying to sell me that every square metre of that desert was privately bought and registered by individual Arabs? Why would Arabs privately buy an uncultivable slice of desert? That truly would be SOME Palestinian mentality.


Now, can we go back to talking about Gaza and how to fix that little slice of the world?

The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified ...

Don't be silly. There ARE only 26.4 million dunams of land in Palestine. Your "land ownership table" shows the TOTAL number of dunams in the territory -- not the total dunams privately owned. The figures on Table 2 are arrived at by subtracting the land area purchased by Jews from total land area -- which was assigned as "Arab land" even though it was a mix of privately owned or leased/cultivated land and Crown Land. The document says as much.

Further, it shows 16 million dunams of land as being uncultivable, 11 million dunams of that uncultivable land is the Negev desert.
Are you trying to sell me that every square metre of that desert was privately bought and registered by individual Arabs? Why would Arabs privately buy an uncultivable slice of desert? That truly would be SOME Palestinian mentality.


Now, can we go back to talking about Gaza and how to fix that little slice of the world?

Table 2 depicts privately owned land by Jews and by Arabs. Why else would the table have been elaborated? You just can't handle the truth. Public land is listed in the table under 104. Also provided.
But keep making things up.

You mean like when you said there are 7 Muslim countries represented in the UN?

 

[montelatici]

The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified ...

Don't be silly. There ARE only 26.4 million dunams of land in Palestine. Your "land ownership table" shows the TOTAL number of dunams in the territory -- not the total dunams privately owned. The figures on Table 2 are arrived at by subtracting the land area purchased by Jews from total land area -- which was assigned as "Arab land" even though it was a mix of privately owned or leased/cultivated land and Crown Land. The document says as much.

Further, it shows 16 million dunams of land as being uncultivable, 11 million dunams of that uncultivable land is the Negev desert.
Are you trying to sell me that every square metre of that desert was privately bought and registered by individual Arabs? Why would Arabs privately buy an uncultivable slice of desert? That truly would be SOME Palestinian mentality.


Now, can we go back to talking about Gaza and how to fix that little slice of the world?

The land ownership table includes only privately owned land whose owners could be identified ...

Don't be silly. There ARE only 26.4 million dunams of land in Palestine. Your "land ownership table" shows the TOTAL number of dunams in the territory -- not the total dunams privately owned. The figures on Table 2 are arrived at by subtracting the land area purchased by Jews from total land area -- which was assigned as "Arab land" even though it was a mix of privately owned or leased/cultivated land and Crown Land. The document says as much.

Further, it shows 16 million dunams of land as being uncultivable, 11 million dunams of that uncultivable land is the Negev desert.
Are you trying to sell me that every square metre of that desert was privately bought and registered by individual Arabs? Why would Arabs privately buy an uncultivable slice of desert? That truly would be SOME Palestinian mentality.


Now, can we go back to talking about Gaza and how to fix that little slice of the world?

Table 2 depicts privately owned land by Jews and by Arabs. Why else would the table have been elaborated? You just can't handle the truth. Public land is listed in the table under 104. Also provided.
But keep making things up.

You mean like when you said there are 7 Muslim countries represented in the UN?

I said there were 7 Arab states in the UN in 1948. I was wrong there were 6.

Growth in United Nations membership, 1945-present | United Nations

 

[Shusha]

Table 2 depicts privately owned land by Jews and by Arabs.

Table 2 depicts 26.4 million dunams of land. There are only 26.4 million dunams of land in ALL of Israel/"Palestine". Thus, you are claiming every single square meter of Israel/"Palestine" was privately owned, including 11 million dunams of DESERT. This is demonstrably not factual.

 

[montelatici]

Table 2 depicts privately owned land by Jews and by Arabs.

Table 2 depicts 26.4 million dunams of land. There are only 26.4 million dunams of land in ALL of Israel/"Palestine". Thus, you are claiming every single square meter of Israel/"Palestine" was privately owned, including 11 million dunams of DESERT. This is demonstrably not factual.

Of course it is factual, why would a costly survey be performed to state a falsehood? At the time the British and Americans wanted to establish a Jewish colony, why would they (who performed the survey) provide fodder against it? The amount of public land is stated. The Nejev is not the Arabian empty quarter, it is suitable for grazing in the winter especially, of course Arab owners would own grazing land.

Flock of sheep grazing at the Negev desert Southern Israel

nejev grazing in winter - Google Search:

 

[Weatherman2020]

Native land. Pffft. Deed is owned by the Jews.

How could Europeans possibly have had deeds to land which was already deeded to the people whose ancestors had inhabited the land for the last 2-3 thousand tears?

Hobos don't have a claim to land they sit on.
Those with the documents for the land do.

Well, the Muslims and Christians had the deeds. The Jews just stole the land.

LOL! That's BS.

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

 

[montelatici]

How could Europeans possibly have had deeds to land which was already deeded to the people whose ancestors had inhabited the land for the last 2-3 thousand tears?

Hobos don't have a claim to land they sit on.
Those with the documents for the land do.

Well, the Muslims and Christians had the deeds. The Jews just stole the land.

LOL! That's BS.

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Hobos don't have a claim to land they sit on.
Those with the documents for the land do.

Well, the Muslims and Christians had the deeds. The Jews just stole the land.

LOL! That's BS.

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

 

[montelatici]

Well, the Muslims and Christians had the deeds. The Jews just stole the land.

LOL! That's BS.

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

 

[Weatherman2020]

LOL! That's BS.

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

LOL! That's BS.

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

You bigot racists and your willful ignorance of history.

Everyone agrees, Palestinians are vermin that should be eradicated.

 

[montelatici]

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

It happens to be fact:

View attachment 120185
A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

And before anyone starts the Zionist revisionism dance let's state unequivocally that the land ownership data was derived from land registry archives compiled by the British. Firstly, the data was precise regarding ownership.

View attachment 120188

View attachment 120189

View attachment 120190

Secondly, we know exactly how much land was bought by the Jews and when:

View attachment 120192

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

You bigot racists and your willful ignorance of history.

Everyone agrees, Palestinians are vermin that should be eradicated.

Everyone agrees that the Christian and Muslim Palestinians are vermin and they should be eradicated? I think you have emotional problems. Get help. By the way, you haven't a clue about history you are a homicidal maniac.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

Dufus bigot thinks the history of Israel goes back to 1943 AD.

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

You bigot racists and your willful ignorance of history.

Everyone agrees, Palestinians are vermin that should be eradicated.

Everyone agrees that the Christian and Muslim Palestinians are vermin and they should be eradicated? I think you have emotional problems. Get help. By the way, you haven't a clue about history you are a homicidal maniac.

Still struggling to come up with the government Arabs had for the last 2,000 years? There was none, they were hobo squatters.

 

[Shusha]

[
Everyone agrees, Palestinians are vermin that should be eradicated.

Ah. No. Everyone most certainly does not agree with that.

 

[Weatherman2020]

[
Everyone agrees, Palestinians are vermin that should be eradicated.

Ah. No. Everyone most certainly does not agree with that.

You are correct.
Those who love evil like Palestinians.

 

[montelatici]

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

Now that makes a lot of sense. You haven't got crap to dispute that facts.

Other than 3,000 years of recorded history of Jews running the land with a GOVERNMENT WITH MARKED BORDERS.

What form of government did Arabs have?

OH YEAH, JUST HOBO SQUATTERS.

3,000 years of Jews running the land with a government with marked borders? When did these 3,000 years transpire? Have you ever read a history book?

You bigot racists and your willful ignorance of history.

Everyone agrees, Palestinians are vermin that should be eradicated.

Everyone agrees that the Christian and Muslim Palestinians are vermin and they should be eradicated? I think you have emotional problems. Get help. By the way, you haven't a clue about history you are a homicidal maniac.

Still struggling to come up with the government Arabs had for the last 2,000 years? There was none, they were hobo squatters.

No struggle at all, just watching you make a fool of yourself. The people of Palestine were Roman citizens from the birth of Christ (and all Christians from 380 AD on) until 638 AD. The Arabs ruled from 638 AD until the Crusaders conquered Palestine in about 1087 AD and ruled for a century or so. The Arabs reconquered the territory and evicted the Crusaders in about 1200 AD. The Turks then took over until after WW1. The Jews ruled nothing. The people whether Christian or Muslim religion wise remained the same people.